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  1. bitchphd
    bitchphd January 23, 2005 at 1:15 pm |

    Heh, it wasn’t really me that said that about the revolution–I was paraphrasing Emma Goldman ;)

  2. Kate
    Kate January 23, 2005 at 1:25 pm |

    I very rarely wear makeup, not because I have a huge objection to it but mainly because I can’t be bothered to spend half an hour in the morning putting it on which otherwise would be spent in bed. I don’t feel unattractive without it (unless had a heavy night of drinking beforehand) and don’t feel people particularly notice either.

    This is a huge contrast from my teens where I once even warned one (female) friend who was coming round to my house to get ready to go out somewhere that I looked ‘hideous’ without it. She just told me I was strange – and her reaction prompted my realisation that I looked perfectly normal without it.

    I think what you say about getting readers drawn into feminism is interesting. I’ve never been put off by feminism (although I don’t find the most strident particularly interesting or useful) or thought it clashed with being feminine (my teen make-up dramas aside). But then, my mother is a feminist so I guess I’ve had this attitude instilled in me since youth.

    And I love your blog :D

  3. Lauren
    Lauren January 23, 2005 at 1:31 pm |

    Jeezus. Mother. I need to brush up on my quotations.

  4. Ole blue
    Ole blue January 23, 2005 at 6:27 pm |

    I have a feeling, that if appealed, this ruling will be struck down. Wearing clothes is one matter, having to paint on animal and plant based products onto a body so that a person can look like the proper “corporate” image is going way too far. I know a lot of women who wear makeup and they look much better with out it.

    One of the reasons that I stop by your web log is that I do enjoy reading your post, well I ded have nightmares from the David hasselhoff thing, but you seem like a very intelligent human being who will not allow herself to be a pawn in a mans world.

    Thanks you
    I think I will make one of my book characters a little more like you.

    Blue

  5. JC
    JC January 23, 2005 at 7:07 pm |

    I was going to point out that the “dancing” quote was from Emma Goldman, but I see it’s already been done. I didn’t realize that it was paraphrased though.

  6. mythago
    mythago January 23, 2005 at 7:28 pm |

    I don’t care about dancing in your revolution if I only get to follow, never lead, and there’s only one approved dance step.

  7. amy
    amy January 23, 2005 at 9:19 pm |

    “My defiant nature dictates that anyone who requires me to adhere to a gender-based standard will quickly find me behaving in just the opposite fashion.”

    This sounds familiar. I once had a job in the back office of a huge bank, and we would get hit with the paper avalanches when the network handling someone’s ATMs would hiccough. Durring one such avalanche, we were all sitting on the floor sorting out an infinity of adjustment forms: I’d prepared for this activity by wearing a cotton skirt and pumps but no panty hose. My manager took me aside the next day to give me this very stern, concerned talking to about “ettiquite”. It took me forever to figure out what she was talking about. To me, “ettiquite” is saying “pass gas” instead of “fart”. Anyway, she finally made me understand that I am to wear nylons on my legs that work in our little ghetto where we’re never seen by a customer or even an administrator. So I did. I wore white panty-hose and argyle socks with my skirts and pumps, right up until the day I finally quit, grinning ear to ear.

  8. Chepooka
    Chepooka January 23, 2005 at 11:31 pm |

    I’ve always felt that if giving up makeup and all things “girly” was the only way to join the feminist club, that would be totally missing “the point”. I used to sit in my women’s studies classes and feel like an oddball — I wore mascara, lipstick, cute shoes — everyone else had, you know, the standard uniform (no cosmetics, no shaving, comfortable shoes, etc.) Like you, I wasn’t going to be TOLD what to look like in order to be included. I understand the complexity of the issue but in the end, I have to be able to be myself — and I do think that any woman, femme or otherwise, should be allowed to identify themselves as feminists … it all depends on what’s on the inside, afterall.

  9. asfo_del
    asfo_del January 24, 2005 at 1:25 am |

    Of course I agree that people should be able to look however they choose, whther that choice is to be polished and feminine or frumpy and disheveled, or anywhere in between, but I have to disagree with this statement: “We all care about what we look like, even if the look we choose to project is ‘I don’t care about what I look like.’” I honestly do not care at all about what I look like. I don’t even comb my hair — and it’s not because I’m affecting an “I don’t care” look.

    When I had to work at jobs that required me to be minimally presentable, and by that I mean having washed my hair within the last 3 or 4 days and wearing a shirt that had not been balled up on the floor and stepped on daily for the past week, I found it to be an excruciating burden. I truly hated it.

    That women, even staunch feminists, cannot understand this state of mind means that I have to put up with looks of pity and well-meaning advice from women whose trendy outfits and colored and styled hair I find slightly clownish. I respect their freedom to lok however they want to look, even though I think they look silly, but they don’t respect or understand mine.

  10. Trish Wilson
    Trish Wilson January 24, 2005 at 9:47 am |

    I like wearing makeup when I go out. I look good with or without it. I have a different take on it than a lot of people because I was a licensed cosmetician and I did make-up for stage, TV, movies, and head shots for actors, models, and other professionals who needed something for their portfolios. I can understand that a company may see it as part of a “uniform,” but I don’t like the idea of forcing women to wear it.

    I went to a women’s college. It was interesting to see the women go without makeup to classes, since there were no guys around, but they piled on the pancake for mixers, dates, and going anywhere where men were present. Sometimes I did their makeup for them because I was much better at it than they were. Yeah, a lot of women wore makeup to be more attractive to men but I knew plenty who wore it because it made them feel good about themselves. I don’t have a problem with it.

    I used to have a very feminine look back in the ’80s (including the big hair), but now I’m more classically tailored on some days and nearly goth on others. I wear a lot of black – a holdover from my stage days. I still have the big hair. My hair is nearly down to my waist, and I play with it all the time.

  11. Aleah
    Aleah January 24, 2005 at 7:00 pm |

    Great post, Lauren. I linked back and followed up with some thoughts of my own…Cheers!

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