Comments on: On Women and Blogging http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/02/22/on-women-and-blogging/ In defense of the sanctimonious women's studies set. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:02:20 +0000 hourly 1 By: Pandagon http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/02/22/on-women-and-blogging/#comment-4071 Pandagon Wed, 02 Mar 2005 02:43:56 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/02/22/on-women-and-blogging/#comment-4071 <strong>Women's History Month and Estrogen Week</strong> You wants the womens, you got the womens. March is Women's History Month. Just like Black History Month, every year it's a time both to reflect on the oft-ignored parts of history and regret that we still must set aside... Women’s History Month and Estrogen Week
You wants the womens, you got the womens. March is Women’s History Month. Just like Black History Month, every year it’s a time both to reflect on the oft-ignored parts of history and regret that we still must set aside…

]]> By: Herbert Browne http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/02/22/on-women-and-blogging/#comment-3990 Herbert Browne Sun, 27 Feb 2005 06:58:29 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/02/22/on-women-and-blogging/#comment-3990 The bra-pics reminded me of early Matt Groening cartoons- each like two persons in burkas carrying on secret conversations- or trying to kiss while wearing gas masks... ^..^ The bra-pics reminded me of early Matt Groening cartoons- each like two persons in burkas carrying on secret conversations- or trying to kiss while wearing gas masks…
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]]> By: Pharyngula http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/02/22/on-women-and-blogging/#comment-3980 Pharyngula Sat, 26 Feb 2005 16:27:31 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/02/22/on-women-and-blogging/#comment-3980 <strong>Penis evolution</strong> After the recent struggles trying to keep up with the traffic on this site, you wouldn't think I'd feel compelled to go trolling for more visitors, but isn't that the nature of weblogging? The only point to it all is to rack up a bigger ... Penis evolution
After the recent struggles trying to keep up with the traffic on this site, you wouldn't think I'd feel compelled to go trolling for more visitors, but isn't that the nature of weblogging? The only point to it all is to rack up a bigger …

]]> By: Monjo http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/02/22/on-women-and-blogging/#comment-3952 Monjo Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:10:59 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/02/22/on-women-and-blogging/#comment-3952 Venus de Milo = depicts a Goddess; Venus Anodyne = not sure, probably is a Goddess; Nike of Samothrace = winged Goddess; Elgin Marbles = again depicts Gods and Godesses... spotting a theme? Barberini Faun = not a God, is a sexual piece of art Remember art = Depiction + Intention (hence why I asked Lauren of her intentions with the banner art) To state that these civilisations were anti-woman, is a little silly. You may wish to read about the <a href="http://metamedia.stanford.edu/traumwerk/index.php/Minoan%20Mother%20Goddesses">Minoan goddesses</a> and how <a href="http://metamedia.stanford.edu/traumwerk/index.php/Creation%20of%20Zeus%20and%20Hera">Zeus and Hera</a> may have originated. Still, I shall admit, I do not care much to go to museums or art galleries. You got me there! How would I react to a nude male, I don't know. Since I was born all depictions of human beauty, perfection, even intelligence, have been thrust upon women. The PM and Monarch for my early childhood were both women - Im in the UK. The sexual organs of both men and women are not aesthetically good, and women have the advantage there that their sexual organ is mostly internal. Frankly I probably would be a little uncomfortable seeing it, but I am not "in denial". The one area where men still are definitely considered superior is sport. My example to demonstrate this fact is Maria Sharapova vs Roger Federer - only someone who hates tennis (but likes watching good-looking women) could choose to watch Sharapova above federer. But maybe women disagree. And, of course, sport started with the Olympics and before as a male-only contest in the early years of paternalistic societies: the move to urbanisation changed society. But that is all really a complete essay (book even!) in itself. Venus de Milo = depicts a Goddess; Venus Anodyne = not sure, probably is a Goddess; Nike of Samothrace = winged Goddess; Elgin Marbles = again depicts Gods and Godesses… spotting a theme?
Barberini Faun = not a God, is a sexual piece of art

Remember art = Depiction + Intention (hence why I asked Lauren of her intentions with the banner art)

To state that these civilisations were anti-woman, is a little silly. You may wish to read about the Minoan goddesses and how Zeus and Hera may have originated.

Still, I shall admit, I do not care much to go to museums or art galleries. You got me there! How would I react to a nude male, I don’t know. Since I was born all depictions of human beauty, perfection, even intelligence, have been thrust upon women. The PM and Monarch for my early childhood were both women – Im in the UK. The sexual organs of both men and women are not aesthetically good, and women have the advantage there that their sexual organ is mostly internal. Frankly I probably would be a little uncomfortable seeing it, but I am not “in denial”.
The one area where men still are definitely considered superior is sport. My example to demonstrate this fact is Maria Sharapova vs Roger Federer – only someone who hates tennis (but likes watching good-looking women) could choose to watch Sharapova above federer. But maybe women disagree.
And, of course, sport started with the Olympics and before as a male-only contest in the early years of paternalistic societies: the move to urbanisation changed society. But that is all really a complete essay (book even!) in itself.

]]> By: Morgaine Swann http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/02/22/on-women-and-blogging/#comment-3949 Morgaine Swann Fri, 25 Feb 2005 09:06:26 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/02/22/on-women-and-blogging/#comment-3949 You know, I have lots of beefcake on my site, just not on my blog. Should I import some? Any of you ladies want to borrow a screen cap for you blogs? You know, I have lots of beefcake on my site, just not on my blog. Should I import some? Any of you ladies want to borrow a screen cap for you blogs?

]]> By: Sheelzebub http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/02/22/on-women-and-blogging/#comment-3940 Sheelzebub Thu, 24 Feb 2005 18:58:07 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/02/22/on-women-and-blogging/#comment-3940 That was freakin' hysterical. That was freakin’ hysterical.

]]> By: bellatrys http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/02/22/on-women-and-blogging/#comment-3934 bellatrys Thu, 24 Feb 2005 13:21:07 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/02/22/on-women-and-blogging/#comment-3934 Monjo, have you *spent* much time in museums? Or are you repeating something you read in a magazine once? Venus de Milo. Venus Anodyne. Nike of Samothrace. The Elgin Marbles. The Kore of Auxerre. The Wounded Amazon. The Acropolis Caryatids. Athena Lemnia. Venus Callipyge. The "Three Graces." This is off the top of my head, mind you, not looking anything up, and covers centuries of classical history from the very early stages of realistic sculpture attempts to the end of the Roman Empire. And we're not even covering Egypt (Isis, Hathor, in countless representations), or Mesopotamia (Ashera, Inanna), or Asia Minor (Diana Polymastes) and still less going into the far and non-verbal -record-leaving past, where you have both sensitive portraits, majestic nudes, and breasts-onna-stick coming out of the neolithic era. Most of those societiess used breasts to sell things, (including sex itself) but were not particularly woman-friendly, if I recall my source materials correctly... Put up male nudes, "Barberini Faun" style, and watch straight (or, more accurately, ambivalent and in denial) men twitch and eventually spaz out in a "My eyes! My eyes!" way. I've seen this reaction before, (and I think it's funny as hell.) As for what the masthead of this blog (which I hadn't even noticed, it being that dark and imo cluttered a design, until you mentioned it) is supposed to mean, the designer will have to explain, I don't have any grounds to start presuming on, and why WAG when the author is present? Monjo, have you *spent* much time in museums? Or are you repeating something you read in a magazine once?

Venus de Milo. Venus Anodyne. Nike of Samothrace. The Elgin Marbles. The Kore of Auxerre. The Wounded Amazon. The Acropolis Caryatids. Athena Lemnia. Venus Callipyge. The “Three Graces.”

This is off the top of my head, mind you, not looking anything up, and covers centuries of classical history from the very early stages of realistic sculpture attempts to the end of the Roman Empire. And we’re not even covering Egypt (Isis, Hathor, in countless representations), or Mesopotamia (Ashera, Inanna), or Asia Minor (Diana Polymastes) and still less going into the far and non-verbal -record-leaving past, where you have both sensitive portraits, majestic nudes, and breasts-onna-stick coming out of the neolithic era.

Most of those societiess used breasts to sell things, (including sex itself) but were not particularly woman-friendly, if I recall my source materials correctly…

Put up male nudes, “Barberini Faun” style, and watch straight (or, more accurately, ambivalent and in denial) men twitch and eventually spaz out in a “My eyes! My eyes!” way. I’ve seen this reaction before, (and I think it’s funny as hell.)

As for what the masthead of this blog (which I hadn’t even noticed, it being that dark and imo cluttered a design, until you mentioned it) is supposed to mean, the designer will have to explain, I don’t have any grounds to start presuming on, and why WAG when the author is present?

]]> By: bellatrys http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/02/22/on-women-and-blogging/#comment-3932 bellatrys Thu, 24 Feb 2005 12:33:53 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/02/22/on-women-and-blogging/#comment-3932 Monjo, have you *spent* much time in museums? Or are you repeating something you read in a magazine once? Venus de Milo. Venus Anodyne. Nike of Samothrace. The Elgin Marbles. The Kore of Auxerre. The Wounded Amazon. The Acropolis Caryatids. Athena Lemnia. Venus Callipyge. The "Three Graces." This is off the top of my head, mind you, not looking anything up, and covers centuries of classical history from the very early stages of realistic sculpture attempts to the end of the Roman Empire. And we're not even covering Egypt (Isis, Hathor, in countless representations), or Mesopotamia (Ashera, Inanna), or Asia Minor (Diana Polymastes) and still less going into the far and non-verbal -record-leaving past, where you have both sensitive portraits, majestic nudes, and breasts-onna-stick coming out of the neolithic era. Most of those societiess used breasts to sell things, (including sex itself) but were not particularly woman-friendly, if I recall my source materials correctly... As for what the masthead of this blog (which I hadn't even noticed, it being that dark and imo cluttered a design, until you mentioned it) is supposed to mean, the designer will have to explain. Monjo, have you *spent* much time in museums? Or are you repeating something you read in a magazine once?

Venus de Milo. Venus Anodyne. Nike of Samothrace. The Elgin Marbles. The Kore of Auxerre. The Wounded Amazon. The Acropolis Caryatids. Athena Lemnia. Venus Callipyge. The “Three Graces.”

This is off the top of my head, mind you, not looking anything up, and covers centuries of classical history from the very early stages of realistic sculpture attempts to the end of the Roman Empire. And we’re not even covering Egypt (Isis, Hathor, in countless representations), or Mesopotamia (Ashera, Inanna), or Asia Minor (Diana Polymastes) and still less going into the far and non-verbal -record-leaving past, where you have both sensitive portraits, majestic nudes, and breasts-onna-stick coming out of the neolithic era.

Most of those societiess used breasts to sell things, (including sex itself) but were not particularly woman-friendly, if I recall my source materials correctly…

As for what the masthead of this blog (which I hadn’t even noticed, it being that dark and imo cluttered a design, until you mentioned it) is supposed to mean, the designer will have to explain.

]]> By: Monjo http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/02/22/on-women-and-blogging/#comment-3931 Monjo Thu, 24 Feb 2005 10:28:05 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/02/22/on-women-and-blogging/#comment-3931 Classical art featured males as the perfection of the human body. Until very recently it was young male adonises that were considered 'beauty'. In actual fact portraying the female form as the perfection of the human body is really a very recent occurance, and roughly coincided with women's liberation. When you consider the historical/religious attitudes to the human form, it can be argued that using breasts to sell is actually empowering women. If you consider the banner here at feministe, we have a woman in a cocktail glass showing off her legs - what is the perceived symbology behind that? What is the intended, only Lauren can answer. If any women wish to be 'ironic' and have good looking men (traditionally late teens, muscular, long hair - think the story of Samson, he was emascualted not by references to male genitalia but by the cutting of his hair) on their sites, good for them. I don't really see anything ironic behind it as men like that are the physical embodiment of human perfection: young, strong and virile. Classical art featured males as the perfection of the human body. Until very recently it was young male adonises that were considered ‘beauty’. In actual fact portraying the female form as the perfection of the human body is really a very recent occurance, and roughly coincided with women’s liberation. When you consider the historical/religious attitudes to the human form, it can be argued that using breasts to sell is actually empowering women.
If you consider the banner here at feministe, we have a woman in a cocktail glass showing off her legs – what is the perceived symbology behind that? What is the intended, only Lauren can answer.

If any women wish to be ‘ironic’ and have good looking men (traditionally late teens, muscular, long hair – think the story of Samson, he was emascualted not by references to male genitalia but by the cutting of his hair) on their sites, good for them. I don’t really see anything ironic behind it as men like that are the physical embodiment of human perfection: young, strong and virile.

]]> By: Bill Humphries http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/02/22/on-women-and-blogging/#comment-3930 Bill Humphries Thu, 24 Feb 2005 07:36:48 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/02/22/on-women-and-blogging/#comment-3930 Now you need a tagline reading, "eyes up here." Now you need a tagline reading, “eyes up here.”

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