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	<description>In defense of the sanctimonious women&#039;s studies set.</description>
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		<title>By: To Be Determined</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/03/10/disclaimer/#comment-5768</link>
		<dc:creator>To Be Determined</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;My Sandbox (Or &quot;Things you might want to keep in mind while you&#039;re here&quot;)&lt;/strong&gt;

You can imagine how my jaw hit the floor when mom told me she reads TBD. It&#039;s been popular in the circles I follow in the blogosphere to hash out a set of &quot;things you might want to know&quot; when you read my blog. Almost to the very last one, there&#039;s b...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>My Sandbox (Or &#8220;Things you might want to keep in mind while you&#8217;re here&#8221;)</strong></p>
<p>You can imagine how my jaw hit the floor when mom told me she reads TBD. It&#8217;s been popular in the circles I follow in the blogosphere to hash out a set of &#8220;things you might want to know&#8221; when you read my blog. Almost to the very last one, there&#8217;s b&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/03/10/disclaimer/#comment-4922</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2005 04:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wanted to let you know -- I LOVE the blue boomarang background of this site, and have co-opted it for use as a background on my own baby blog (Live Journal, actually). Is this an OK thing to do? I have given credit to your site for the background (entry dated 3/28/05, 8:08 pm). If this is not kosher, le&#039;me know and I&#039;ll go back to my previous, low-rent background! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wanted to let you know &#8212; I LOVE the blue boomarang background of this site, and have co-opted it for use as a background on my own baby blog (Live Journal, actually). Is this an OK thing to do? I have given credit to your site for the background (entry dated 3/28/05, 8:08 pm). If this is not kosher, le&#8217;me know and I&#8217;ll go back to my previous, low-rent background!</p>
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		<title>By: Synaxis TV</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/03/10/disclaimer/#comment-4558</link>
		<dc:creator>Synaxis TV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;What the hell am I doing?&lt;/strong&gt;

I struggle a bit from time to time trying to figure out what I should put on here.  Part of that is trying to figure out who my audience is.  I like being able to share my life with others without barriers.  But there are interesting things that happen...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>What the hell am I doing?</strong></p>
<p>I struggle a bit from time to time trying to figure out what I should put on here.  Part of that is trying to figure out who my audience is.  I like being able to share my life with others without barriers.  But there are interesting things that happen&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chloe</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/03/10/disclaimer/#comment-4410</link>
		<dc:creator>Chloe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here ya go!  :)
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.watermelonpunch.com/blog/archives/003103.php&quot;&gt;Watermelon Punch, the Blog - 14 Mar 2005 &#124; &#039;eure Perlen sollt ihr nicht vor die Säue werfen&#039; (&quot;Don&#039;t throw pearls to swine&quot;) ... (or, &quot;Don&#039;t give KB to trolls&quot;)&lt;/a&gt;

Make tea, not war.  :)  hehe!!  ;)

BTW:  Do we have the same hosting service?  Both your site and mine have been down a lot today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here ya go!  :)<br />
<a href="http://www.watermelonpunch.com/blog/archives/003103.php">Watermelon Punch, the Blog &#8211; 14 Mar 2005 | &#8216;eure Perlen sollt ihr nicht vor die Säue werfen&#8217; (&#8220;Don&#8217;t throw pearls to swine&#8221;) &#8230; (or, &#8220;Don&#8217;t give KB to trolls&#8221;)</a></p>
<p>Make tea, not war.  :)  hehe!!  ;)</p>
<p>BTW:  Do we have the same hosting service?  Both your site and mine have been down a lot today.</p>
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		<title>By: Chloe</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/03/10/disclaimer/#comment-4397</link>
		<dc:creator>Chloe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2005 12:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lauren, it&#039;s not you though.  Some people are cretins!  haha.  

I mean, at least some of the people you&#039;re probably talking at with this post.  Like there are some people who are just not right.  Either emotionally stunted, immature, or just plain unwell mentally.  Or people who seem to think social mores are suspended on the internet.  So they just don&#039;t &quot;get it&quot;.  They may actually LIKE the sandbox that you might find distasteful.

And that&#039;s what&#039;s problematic about the whole get out.  You&#039;re talking to people who don&#039;t hear you, I&#039;m afraid.  haha.  Those of us who do understand, and do behave in a mannerly courteous way, wouldn&#039;t be harrassing you or bothering you.  Those that don&#039;t get it, don&#039;t get it because they won&#039;t.

That was another thing I found RIDICULOUS about that README...  &quot;Don&#039;t be a psycho stalker.&quot;   Yeah, that&#039;s going to stop someone who&#039;s psycho.  haha.  

You simply can&#039;t tell other people what to do or think.  You can just either accept their behaviour or reject it.

And this IS the real world.  The same rules can &amp; do apply.

What I&#039;m shocked at is that you don&#039;t seem to be aware of your own power.  You have the power to delete any comment on this blog that you choose.  If you don&#039;t like it, think it&#039;s inappropriate, or whatever - you just poof, and it&#039;s gone.

I treat my blog like my home.  Guests are to behave like guests.  My home, my rules.

And anyone who tries to tell me how they should be allowed to behave in my home, can stuff it where the sun doesn&#039;t shine.  Nobody&#039;s going to manipulate me into compromising my own standards, my own ethics, my own limits.  I get to say how people treat me.

If someone wants to think ill of me, they&#039;re free to do so.  
But they can take their rude expressions elsewhere.  
If someone complains about having their comments deleted - I tell them - go get your own blog and you can say whatever you like about mine there - but I don&#039;t have to read it, and I don&#039;t have to host one kb of someone else&#039;s rudeness towards me any more than I would allow them to carry on that way in my own home.

I&#039;ve learned that you can make rules right out of Emily Post&#039;s Blue Book of Social Etiquette until you&#039;re blue in the face.  Rules just give some people incentive to beat the system or argue, sadly.
I&#039;ve found I&#039;ve had much better results with these people by simply deleting &amp; ignoring their comments, rather than responding to them.  If they don&#039;t get any response at all, and their comments get deleted, they don&#039;t bother to come back.   Because they didn&#039;t get a rise.

I guess what I&#039;m saying is, &quot;Don&#039;t throw pearls to swine.&quot;  :)

But I&#039;ll tell ya what, I&#039;ll write something for y&#039;all that explains how I protect my pearls and keep out the swine.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lauren, it&#8217;s not you though.  Some people are cretins!  haha.  </p>
<p>I mean, at least some of the people you&#8217;re probably talking at with this post.  Like there are some people who are just not right.  Either emotionally stunted, immature, or just plain unwell mentally.  Or people who seem to think social mores are suspended on the internet.  So they just don&#8217;t &#8220;get it&#8221;.  They may actually LIKE the sandbox that you might find distasteful.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s what&#8217;s problematic about the whole get out.  You&#8217;re talking to people who don&#8217;t hear you, I&#8217;m afraid.  haha.  Those of us who do understand, and do behave in a mannerly courteous way, wouldn&#8217;t be harrassing you or bothering you.  Those that don&#8217;t get it, don&#8217;t get it because they won&#8217;t.</p>
<p>That was another thing I found RIDICULOUS about that README&#8230;  &#8220;Don&#8217;t be a psycho stalker.&#8221;   Yeah, that&#8217;s going to stop someone who&#8217;s psycho.  haha.  </p>
<p>You simply can&#8217;t tell other people what to do or think.  You can just either accept their behaviour or reject it.</p>
<p>And this IS the real world.  The same rules can &#038; do apply.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m shocked at is that you don&#8217;t seem to be aware of your own power.  You have the power to delete any comment on this blog that you choose.  If you don&#8217;t like it, think it&#8217;s inappropriate, or whatever &#8211; you just poof, and it&#8217;s gone.</p>
<p>I treat my blog like my home.  Guests are to behave like guests.  My home, my rules.</p>
<p>And anyone who tries to tell me how they should be allowed to behave in my home, can stuff it where the sun doesn&#8217;t shine.  Nobody&#8217;s going to manipulate me into compromising my own standards, my own ethics, my own limits.  I get to say how people treat me.</p>
<p>If someone wants to think ill of me, they&#8217;re free to do so.<br />
But they can take their rude expressions elsewhere.<br />
If someone complains about having their comments deleted &#8211; I tell them &#8211; go get your own blog and you can say whatever you like about mine there &#8211; but I don&#8217;t have to read it, and I don&#8217;t have to host one kb of someone else&#8217;s rudeness towards me any more than I would allow them to carry on that way in my own home.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve learned that you can make rules right out of Emily Post&#8217;s Blue Book of Social Etiquette until you&#8217;re blue in the face.  Rules just give some people incentive to beat the system or argue, sadly.<br />
I&#8217;ve found I&#8217;ve had much better results with these people by simply deleting &#038; ignoring their comments, rather than responding to them.  If they don&#8217;t get any response at all, and their comments get deleted, they don&#8217;t bother to come back.   Because they didn&#8217;t get a rise.</p>
<p>I guess what I&#8217;m saying is, &#8220;Don&#8217;t throw pearls to swine.&#8221;  :)</p>
<p>But I&#8217;ll tell ya what, I&#8217;ll write something for y&#8217;all that explains how I protect my pearls and keep out the swine.  ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/03/10/disclaimer/#comment-4389</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chloe, I agree that the diary analogy isn&#039;t the best example - that was part the the original Midge Disclaimer that I borrowed from and I think it&#039;s problematic, especially in the context of the rest of the post.

What is relevant from the rest of the statements is that this space is, in some ways, sacred to me, as I can express myself here in ways I can&#039;t otherwise in the real world.  I&#039;m a bad speaker and often lose myself in thoughts and ideas - the ADD at work.  If anything begins to impede my expression, I would leave here and start again even more anonymously (I&#039;m not that anonymous here) with some regret.  But if that&#039;s what it takes, so be it.

And Kim, I had started this post a long time ago and never finished it.  I figured it was about time as I seem to be getting exponentially more hits each month.  Nothing personal to anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chloe, I agree that the diary analogy isn&#8217;t the best example &#8211; that was part the the original Midge Disclaimer that I borrowed from and I think it&#8217;s problematic, especially in the context of the rest of the post.</p>
<p>What is relevant from the rest of the statements is that this space is, in some ways, sacred to me, as I can express myself here in ways I can&#8217;t otherwise in the real world.  I&#8217;m a bad speaker and often lose myself in thoughts and ideas &#8211; the ADD at work.  If anything begins to impede my expression, I would leave here and start again even more anonymously (I&#8217;m not that anonymous here) with some regret.  But if that&#8217;s what it takes, so be it.</p>
<p>And Kim, I had started this post a long time ago and never finished it.  I figured it was about time as I seem to be getting exponentially more hits each month.  Nothing personal to anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Wells</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/03/10/disclaimer/#comment-4387</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the different ways people respond to various posts like this one.  Me, I begin to wonder what it was that drove you to write this.  Someone&#039;s comment, most likely.  I stress over whether it was one I posted, and think back guiltily to comment thread hijacks of the past (they weren&#039;t very active threads!  I protest mentally).  Then I read other people&#039;s comments and realize that we probably all respond in similar ways.  But I think you probably get so much more of the negative commentary than I do-- I get lots of sometimes unsolicited advice.  It&#039;s the different style blogs.  

But anyway, it sucks that this has to be said AGAIN.  I&#039;ve heard you say this in various incarnations in the past.  

Here&#039;s hoping for fewer trolls, and more rewarding ideas.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the different ways people respond to various posts like this one.  Me, I begin to wonder what it was that drove you to write this.  Someone&#8217;s comment, most likely.  I stress over whether it was one I posted, and think back guiltily to comment thread hijacks of the past (they weren&#8217;t very active threads!  I protest mentally).  Then I read other people&#8217;s comments and realize that we probably all respond in similar ways.  But I think you probably get so much more of the negative commentary than I do&#8211; I get lots of sometimes unsolicited advice.  It&#8217;s the different style blogs.  </p>
<p>But anyway, it sucks that this has to be said AGAIN.  I&#8217;ve heard you say this in various incarnations in the past.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s hoping for fewer trolls, and more rewarding ideas.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Chloe</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/03/10/disclaimer/#comment-4386</link>
		<dc:creator>Chloe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2005 06:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Expectations are funny things...  They often lead to disappointment when they involve other people&#039;s thoughts &amp; actions.  
Lauren can ASK people who know her to let her know that they read her blog, but there&#039;s no way to enforce it.  And she can&#039;t tell others how to perceive it, or how treat the information.
(Unless Lauren&#039;s come up with some kind of Thought Mind Control Device.  haha.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Expectations are funny things&#8230;  They often lead to disappointment when they involve other people&#8217;s thoughts &#038; actions.<br />
Lauren can ASK people who know her to let her know that they read her blog, but there&#8217;s no way to enforce it.  And she can&#8217;t tell others how to perceive it, or how treat the information.<br />
(Unless Lauren&#8217;s come up with some kind of Thought Mind Control Device.  haha.)</p>
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		<title>By: Half Changed World</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/03/10/disclaimer/#comment-4385</link>
		<dc:creator>Half Changed World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2005 01:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Anonymity &lt;/strong&gt;
Lauren at Feministe wrote this week that she expected people who knew her in real life who read her blog to let her know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Anonymity </strong><br />
Lauren at Feministe wrote this week that she expected people who knew her in real life who read her blog to let her know.</p>
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		<title>By: Chloe</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/03/10/disclaimer/#comment-4376</link>
		<dc:creator>Chloe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2005 05:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Promoting some kind of laws of fantasyland on the internet, and then claiming accountability &amp; complaining about people who break real life social rules - all at the same time doesn&#039;t really make much logical sense, does it?
You can&#039;t have it both ways.
I&#039;ve learned one thing in this life - I can&#039;t control other people&#039;s behaviour or thoughts - I can only determine my own, and hold others accountable when they&#039;re on my property, in my home, or on my blog.
If you want people to treat your on-line journal (blog, whatever) as they would treat a private diary hidden under a mattress...  The strategy is simple:  Don&#039;t publish it on the world wide web;  Hide it under a mattress.  (Or at least password protect it.  Get a friends-only LiveJournal or something.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Promoting some kind of laws of fantasyland on the internet, and then claiming accountability &#038; complaining about people who break real life social rules &#8211; all at the same time doesn&#8217;t really make much logical sense, does it?<br />
You can&#8217;t have it both ways.<br />
I&#8217;ve learned one thing in this life &#8211; I can&#8217;t control other people&#8217;s behaviour or thoughts &#8211; I can only determine my own, and hold others accountable when they&#8217;re on my property, in my home, or on my blog.<br />
If you want people to treat your on-line journal (blog, whatever) as they would treat a private diary hidden under a mattress&#8230;  The strategy is simple:  Don&#8217;t publish it on the world wide web;  Hide it under a mattress.  (Or at least password protect it.  Get a friends-only LiveJournal or something.)</p>
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