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		<title>By: Brightness Falls  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; Pro-Life Morons</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/04/20/feminisms/#comment-8446</link>
		<dc:creator>Brightness Falls  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; Pro-Life Morons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] s 	 			 					Check out this steaming pile of dung. 	They took it upon themselves to answer this woman&#8217;s survey about what feminism means to them. Their original answers,  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/04/20/feminisms/#comment-6043</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Samaritan, you sure changed my mind.  Thanks for playing.

Did you miss the thread where we made fun of you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Samaritan, you sure changed my mind.  Thanks for playing.</p>
<p>Did you miss the thread where we made fun of you?</p>
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		<title>By: goodsamaritan</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/04/20/feminisms/#comment-6038</link>
		<dc:creator>goodsamaritan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;#  Ryan Says:
April 26th, 2005 at 3:17 pm

Something tells me that goodsamaritan (#45) does not love his enemies like a good Samaritan would.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Good Samaritan loves women.  I love my wife #1, I love my wife #2, I love my wife #3, I love my daughters, I love my mother, I love my grandmothers.

I have no enemies.  Do not put words in my mouth.  
I just defined what a feminist is from my point of view.
Go check out the actions of NOW.  Crystal clear.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Radicality is still the core of the feminist movement.&lt;/strong&gt; It is not merely a problem of a few rotten apples tainting and otherwise equalitarian movement. Cathy Young says it best:

“Critics of radical feminism have been often accused of exaggerating the importance of a handful of male-haters in the movement. Yet Dworkin was never relegated to the lunatic fringe where she belonged: Her texts have been widely assigned in women&#039;s studies courses, and prominent feminists from activist Gloria Steinem to philosopher Martha Nussbaum have offered their praise, treating her hatemongering as extremism in defense of the oppressed. (I prefer the view that hate is hate.)”.

The core feminist movement includes abortionists and an army of ivory-tower professionals who build entire institutions on replacing good husbands with feminist-patriarchal government. The core is presently comprised of women (most of whom masquerade as lesbians) who want “marriage” to become a license for any two women to marry each other and take over family and society altogether. They spawn countless reports containing false data on subjects such as child support and domestic violence – all of which are ultimately debunked ten to twenty years after the policies go into effect.

Feminists constantly wail about marriage being a “trap” or a method of slavery. They don’t want it, or men. They pretend that husbands are a danger to women, when in fact husbands are the lowest risk group for child abuse and abuse of women. And they want no-fault divorce so they win easily without even having to prove fault on the part of the husband.

But feminists only throw away their half of the marital contract. They still expect society to steal men’s money to provide them all the benefits of marriage. They also demand government provide all the other services that men normally provided in marriage, including parenting, health care funding, housing, discipline, and even love.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Feminists...
1. Worship Contraception. (don&#039;t leave home without it)
2. Believe in Abortion. (killing one&#039;s own children is a need)
3. Celebrate Euthanasia. (NOW celebrates Terry Schiavo)
4. Support Gays, Lesbians and Homosexual Marriage.
5. Believe that the Family oppresses women.
6. Will divorce at the drop of a hat.
7. Want the total destruction of marriage. (explicitly written)
8. Believe that Family should defy biology.
9. Believe that Men and Women are the same.
10. Hate Men. (explicitly expressed in the latest college paper)
11. Believe that all sex is rape.
12. Believe that Pope Ratzinger is a woman hater. (feminists howled at his paper &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20040731_collaboration_en.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20040731_collaboration_en.html&lt;/a&gt;)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>#  Ryan Says:<br />
April 26th, 2005 at 3:17 pm</p>
<p>Something tells me that goodsamaritan (#45) does not love his enemies like a good Samaritan would.</p></blockquote>
<p>Good Samaritan loves women.  I love my wife #1, I love my wife #2, I love my wife #3, I love my daughters, I love my mother, I love my grandmothers.</p>
<p>I have no enemies.  Do not put words in my mouth.<br />
I just defined what a feminist is from my point of view.<br />
Go check out the actions of NOW.  Crystal clear.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Radicality is still the core of the feminist movement.</strong> It is not merely a problem of a few rotten apples tainting and otherwise equalitarian movement. Cathy Young says it best:</p>
<p>“Critics of radical feminism have been often accused of exaggerating the importance of a handful of male-haters in the movement. Yet Dworkin was never relegated to the lunatic fringe where she belonged: Her texts have been widely assigned in women&#8217;s studies courses, and prominent feminists from activist Gloria Steinem to philosopher Martha Nussbaum have offered their praise, treating her hatemongering as extremism in defense of the oppressed. (I prefer the view that hate is hate.)”.</p>
<p>The core feminist movement includes abortionists and an army of ivory-tower professionals who build entire institutions on replacing good husbands with feminist-patriarchal government. The core is presently comprised of women (most of whom masquerade as lesbians) who want “marriage” to become a license for any two women to marry each other and take over family and society altogether. They spawn countless reports containing false data on subjects such as child support and domestic violence – all of which are ultimately debunked ten to twenty years after the policies go into effect.</p>
<p>Feminists constantly wail about marriage being a “trap” or a method of slavery. They don’t want it, or men. They pretend that husbands are a danger to women, when in fact husbands are the lowest risk group for child abuse and abuse of women. And they want no-fault divorce so they win easily without even having to prove fault on the part of the husband.</p>
<p>But feminists only throw away their half of the marital contract. They still expect society to steal men’s money to provide them all the benefits of marriage. They also demand government provide all the other services that men normally provided in marriage, including parenting, health care funding, housing, discipline, and even love.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Feminists&#8230;<br />
1. Worship Contraception. (don&#8217;t leave home without it)<br />
2. Believe in Abortion. (killing one&#8217;s own children is a need)<br />
3. Celebrate Euthanasia. (NOW celebrates Terry Schiavo)<br />
4. Support Gays, Lesbians and Homosexual Marriage.<br />
5. Believe that the Family oppresses women.<br />
6. Will divorce at the drop of a hat.<br />
7. Want the total destruction of marriage. (explicitly written)<br />
8. Believe that Family should defy biology.<br />
9. Believe that Men and Women are the same.<br />
10. Hate Men. (explicitly expressed in the latest college paper)<br />
11. Believe that all sex is rape.<br />
12. Believe that Pope Ratzinger is a woman hater. (feminists howled at his paper <a href="http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20040731_collaboration_en.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20040731_collaboration_en.html</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: Monjo</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/04/20/feminisms/#comment-6032</link>
		<dc:creator>Monjo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thomas grr. It&#039;s a statement of fact, check out about UK job quota systems. Isnt me who&#039;s bigotted, it&#039;s the system as it believes we must define success by quota. Which answers jam, because I think any structural analysis is bound to be flawed, other than say in absolute numbers for all people. Quotas in anything produce poor outcomes.

The questions are  not:
- why is this woman with five children struggling OR
- why is this young black man in prison

The question is:
Why is this person .... ?

The analysis is:
Are they responsible?
Is society responsible?
Is there anything they can do to help themselves?
Is there anything we can reasonably expect of society to help them?

So you judge the success of society by if it protects its citizens but also is able to give them opportunity no matter their circumstance. And you can judge the merit of a person by their success and their &quot;charity&quot; towards their fellow citizens. I don;t like the word charity.

Now Thomas, about the welsh. This was put into brackets as it was a joke. Watch Rugby? Then you&#039;d know my grievence :P Anyway, there&#039;s little proof the celtic tribes were here first, nor of their &#039;purity&#039;. This aside, I don&#039;t inherently believe in divine ownership of land - I think everyone has the right to live wherever they want. Individual land ownership is an altogether different issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas grr. It&#8217;s a statement of fact, check out about UK job quota systems. Isnt me who&#8217;s bigotted, it&#8217;s the system as it believes we must define success by quota. Which answers jam, because I think any structural analysis is bound to be flawed, other than say in absolute numbers for all people. Quotas in anything produce poor outcomes.</p>
<p>The questions are  not:<br />
- why is this woman with five children struggling OR<br />
- why is this young black man in prison</p>
<p>The question is:<br />
Why is this person &#8230;. ?</p>
<p>The analysis is:<br />
Are they responsible?<br />
Is society responsible?<br />
Is there anything they can do to help themselves?<br />
Is there anything we can reasonably expect of society to help them?</p>
<p>So you judge the success of society by if it protects its citizens but also is able to give them opportunity no matter their circumstance. And you can judge the merit of a person by their success and their &#8220;charity&#8221; towards their fellow citizens. I don;t like the word charity.</p>
<p>Now Thomas, about the welsh. This was put into brackets as it was a joke. Watch Rugby? Then you&#8217;d know my grievence :P Anyway, there&#8217;s little proof the celtic tribes were here first, nor of their &#8216;purity&#8217;. This aside, I don&#8217;t inherently believe in divine ownership of land &#8211; I think everyone has the right to live wherever they want. Individual land ownership is an altogether different issue.</p>
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		<title>By: La Lubu</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/04/20/feminisms/#comment-6020</link>
		<dc:creator>La Lubu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2005 01:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Family...the Family.....whose Family? Tony Soprano&#039;s? Is he talking about La Cosa Nostra here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Family&#8230;the Family&#8230;..whose Family? Tony Soprano&#8217;s? Is he talking about La Cosa Nostra here?</p>
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		<title>By: Painini</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/04/20/feminisms/#comment-6019</link>
		<dc:creator>Painini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2005 00:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, goodsamaritan is amazingly persuasive.
I&#039;d say more, but I need to go sweep my Pill Shrine and my Trojan Altar, lest Contraception strike me down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, goodsamaritan is amazingly persuasive.<br />
I&#8217;d say more, but I need to go sweep my Pill Shrine and my Trojan Altar, lest Contraception strike me down.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Wells</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/04/20/feminisms/#comment-6006</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2005 22:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good Samaritain:  That is such an outdated, outmoded, completely wrong definition of feminism that smacks of 1975 that it doesn&#039;t even justify a flame war.  You clearly haven&#039;t poked your head out of your own ass to read anything remotely definitive about feminism in a while.  Have you even come close to reading ANY of the comments in this blog, let alone any of the discussion in other places on the blog, or did you just pop in and figure we&#039;d all be cowed by your radical truth and put in our places?

Let me guess, you got your definitions of feminism from Rush Limbaugh, who was dipped in preservative fixative about 30 years ago?  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Samaritain:  That is such an outdated, outmoded, completely wrong definition of feminism that smacks of 1975 that it doesn&#8217;t even justify a flame war.  You clearly haven&#8217;t poked your head out of your own ass to read anything remotely definitive about feminism in a while.  Have you even come close to reading ANY of the comments in this blog, let alone any of the discussion in other places on the blog, or did you just pop in and figure we&#8217;d all be cowed by your radical truth and put in our places?</p>
<p>Let me guess, you got your definitions of feminism from Rush Limbaugh, who was dipped in preservative fixative about 30 years ago?</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/04/20/feminisms/#comment-5996</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2005 20:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something tells me that goodsamaritan (#45) does not love his enemies like a good Samaritan would.</description>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/04/20/feminisms/#comment-5994</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2005 19:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Monjo!  HEY MONJO!  I&#039;M TALKING TO YOU!

&lt;blockquote&gt;Im British  [Of course that means I have to share it with the Welsh, but no-one said life was perfect.]&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In addition to your other petty bigotries (like &quot;every job these days gives first to black, then to women, next to asian, and finally assesses merit&quot;), you&#039;re even bigotted against the white people of your own island.

Let me tell you something, asshole.  My father was born and raised in Scotland.  I have more relatives near you than near me.  And when you English guys pick of the Celtic folk from the Northern and Western fringes of the British Isles, you pick on all of us.  If you&#039;re a bigot against the Welsh, you&#039;re a bigot against the Scots, and Irish.  You&#039;re a bigot against Bretons and the Cornish and the Manx.

Remember this:  we got there first.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monjo!  HEY MONJO!  I&#8217;M TALKING TO YOU!</p>
<blockquote><p>Im British  [Of course that means I have to share it with the Welsh, but no-one said life was perfect.]</p></blockquote>
<p>In addition to your other petty bigotries (like &#8220;every job these days gives first to black, then to women, next to asian, and finally assesses merit&#8221;), you&#8217;re even bigotted against the white people of your own island.</p>
<p>Let me tell you something, asshole.  My father was born and raised in Scotland.  I have more relatives near you than near me.  And when you English guys pick of the Celtic folk from the Northern and Western fringes of the British Isles, you pick on all of us.  If you&#8217;re a bigot against the Welsh, you&#8217;re a bigot against the Scots, and Irish.  You&#8217;re a bigot against Bretons and the Cornish and the Manx.</p>
<p>Remember this:  we got there first.</p>
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		<title>By: goodsamaritan</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/04/20/feminisms/#comment-5987</link>
		<dc:creator>goodsamaritan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2005 14:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Feminists:

1. Worship Contraception.
2. Believe in Abortion.
3. Celebrate Euthanasia.
4. Support Gays, Lesbians and Homosexual Marriage.
5. Believe that the Family oppresses women.
6. Will divorce at the drop of a hat.
7. Want the total destruction of marriage.
8. Believe that Family should defy biology.
9. Believe that Men and Women are the same. 
10. Hate Men.
11. Believe that all sex is rape.
12. Believe that Pope Ratzinger is a woman hater.

There&#039;s more.  A lot more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feminists:</p>
<p>1. Worship Contraception.<br />
2. Believe in Abortion.<br />
3. Celebrate Euthanasia.<br />
4. Support Gays, Lesbians and Homosexual Marriage.<br />
5. Believe that the Family oppresses women.<br />
6. Will divorce at the drop of a hat.<br />
7. Want the total destruction of marriage.<br />
8. Believe that Family should defy biology.<br />
9. Believe that Men and Women are the same.<br />
10. Hate Men.<br />
11. Believe that all sex is rape.<br />
12. Believe that Pope Ratzinger is a woman hater.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s more.  A lot more.</p>
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