Shannon Elizabeth calls me a bimbo

Well, not Shannon Elizabeth, just Jeff Goldstein. To which I will now oh-so-maturely respond, “Fuck off.”

But please, feel free to give Mr. Goldstein a piece of your mind. I don’t have the time, as I’m too busy trying to make my postings more attractive to men.

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45 Responses

  1. Lab Kat
    Lab Kat September 14, 2005 at 3:47 pm |

    When ignorant people cannot logically argue a point, they almost always revert to sexist or racism insults. It’s the rule. Unfortunately, we have to live with it.

  2. alley rat
    alley rat September 14, 2005 at 3:54 pm |

    i love how he defends his use of the word “bimbo” by claiming it was satire because he was writing as Shannon Elizabeth. And it’s not offensive to call HER a bimbo because…why? double bimbo whammy on him.

  3. norbizness
    norbizness September 14, 2005 at 3:55 pm |

    Perhaps you’ll get the “if Jill were a piece of bimbonic pasta” or “imaginary conversations between Billy Jack and Jill” treatment next. It’s the equivalent of celebrity, if notoreity could actually be conferred by a compact, patriotically correct circle jerk.

  4. Lauren
    Lauren September 14, 2005 at 3:57 pm |

    “a compact, patriotically correct circle jerk”

    Leave the White House out of this.

  5. Lauren
    Lauren September 14, 2005 at 4:02 pm |

    Jill, Andrea Harris is lonely and bitter. Can’t expect much more than that kind of response.

  6. Hissy Cat
    Hissy Cat September 14, 2005 at 4:15 pm |

    This is so fucking creepy.

  7. Sheelzebub
    Sheelzebub September 14, 2005 at 4:16 pm |

    Shorter Andrea Harris: I’m just bitter and lonely because Lauren and Jill are cute and have personalities and I don’t. Beatches.

  8. Lauren
    Lauren September 14, 2005 at 4:19 pm |

    You said it, Sheelz.

    And thanks for the compliment. At least this time around they won’t go for the “ugly feminist” argument. They’ll just ATTACK MY KID.

  9. Hissy Cat
    Hissy Cat September 14, 2005 at 4:19 pm |

    also,I’m so flippin sick of broken typewriter fonts

  10. mojo
    mojo September 14, 2005 at 4:41 pm |

    Somethin’ wrong with bimbos?

    How un-inclusive of you. Personally, I don’t mind ‘em, as long as they put out.But than, I’m one o’ them evil male patriarchs, y’know. As opposed to the Good Female Matriarchs in places like Fiji, where nobody ever fought a war.

    Uh-huh.

  11. Ben
    Ben September 14, 2005 at 4:53 pm |

    Hey, forgive the cheap plug, but I just did a little number on the whole Malkin/you/Goldstein/Elizabeth thing over on my blog, and I hope you’d like to read it.

    Not like I noticed that you don’t have any “D” blogs on your roll or anything.

  12. mythago
    mythago September 14, 2005 at 5:00 pm |

    Wow, talk about penis anxiety. “Waaaa! Lauren and the other feminists think our wee-wees are icky!”

  13. Amanda
    Amanda September 14, 2005 at 5:42 pm |

    He’s a dick. He complains constantly about me, and it was funny for awhile, but I tuned him out. He’s very sure of his unbelievable rightness in every way, which is indeed laughable from someone who can’t get a damn thing straight to save his life.

    But pretty girls are bimbos! He showed you for being pretty like all those bitches who keep shooting him down.

  14. The Countess
    The Countess September 14, 2005 at 5:45 pm |

    Now look what you did. I just took a shower, and after that you teased me into reading those flukeworms. Now I need another shower.

    And some people think feminists don’t bathe. ;)

  15. Committees of Correspondence
    Committees of Correspondence September 14, 2005 at 5:58 pm |

    Isolation of the Dodo

    I ran across an interesting dialog on the Internet today.

    Shannon Elizabeth comments on a post by Feministe’s “Jill” arguing that, because 911 wasn’t an act of war (which would come as a surprise to those who declared war on us, then attacked u…

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  17. Lab Kat
    Lab Kat September 14, 2005 at 6:23 pm |

    Hey, I’m an NOT “delicate”!

  18. other Ryan
    other Ryan September 14, 2005 at 7:07 pm |

    Woo Hoo – that’s a high class insult. You responded on his site pretty well, too.

  19. Auguste
    Auguste September 14, 2005 at 7:29 pm |

    They were fat and stupid!

    Seriously. If I ever read another righty say “how poor can they be, they’re fat!” I’m gonna pour fifteen gallons of cheap corn syrup down their throat and then…well, anyone seen Caligula?

  20. The Liberal Avenger
    The Liberal Avenger September 14, 2005 at 7:32 pm |

    What on earth does “Protein Wisdom” mean, anyway?

  21. Dianne
    Dianne September 14, 2005 at 7:44 pm |

    Oops, messed up the blockquote above. Post 22 is in response to the question asked in post 21. I’m going to try to blockquote it correctly below and if that doesn’t work give up.

    What on earth does “Protein Wisdom” mean, anyway?

    Somehow it makes me think of mad cow disease. Perhaps the authors are seeking wisdom from prions?

  22. Jon C.
    Jon C. September 14, 2005 at 7:44 pm |

    Let me say right off the bat I think charges of bimboism, and all the other ad hominem nonsense that’s flown back and forth between here and Protein Wisdom, is completely ridiculous.

    I know you’ve said your piece on this Jill and probably aren’t interested in pursuing it further, but I’d like to offer my two cents.

    Firstly, with regard to your claim in your original post that 9/11 was a “non-military” attack on a “civilian population”: Oh really? You consider the Pentagon to be a civilian target? C’mon. And even if it hadn’t been targeted, the fact that the terrorists weren’t enlisted in an official military or didn’t attack under the flag of a foreign power is completely immaterial to whether or not their acts were acts of war. Asymmetrical, guerrilla warfare has long been recognized as such.

    Secondly: Even I, someone who I think it’s fair to say knows you reasonably well, was a little shocked by your statement that the actions of the passengers of Flight 93 weren’t part of a “war”. Your bringing up of Iraq struck me as willful obtuseness and beneath your usual crisp style of argument. Acts of war most certainly took place on 9/11. By resisting the terrorists that day, the passengers of Flight 93 became some of the first casualties in that war. Bin Laden has declared war on American and its allies. That’s the truth. There needn’t be any Clintonian, legalistic parsing about that.

    As has been brought up already, I guess that if the left and right can’t even agree as to whether a war began on 9/11, there’s really no point in hashing it out. You either think so, or you don’t. But it’s not “politicizing” anything to refer to the Flight 93 memorial as a “war memorial”.

  23. David Thompson
    David Thompson September 14, 2005 at 10:23 pm |

    What on earth does “Protein Wisdom” mean, anyway?

    Something concerning ejaculate? More than that I don’t want to know.

  24. OHNOES
    OHNOES September 14, 2005 at 10:33 pm |

    Oh dear, and I was hoping for intelligent discussion here.

  25. Lauren
    Lauren September 14, 2005 at 10:40 pm |

    Got to start with intelligence to get to intelligence.

  26. Ralph
    Ralph September 14, 2005 at 10:42 pm |

    I’m just bitter and lonely because Lauren and Jill are cute and have personalities and I don’t. Beatches.

    As though that were anything other than cattiness and true sexism, practiced by hypocrites in feminist clothing. Jesus, could you be more of a stereotype? A woman says soemthing you disagree with and right away it’s all ‘She ain’t got no man” and “She be ugly.”

    You’re all Springer guests pretending to be thinking adults.

  27. Amanda
    Amanda September 14, 2005 at 10:48 pm |

    I always assumed “Protein Wisdom” was his pathetic attempt to suggest that because he makes semen, he is wise.

  28. aldahlia
    aldahlia September 14, 2005 at 11:44 pm |

    I refuse to wade in and find out how she is involved, but indeed, Andrea Harris is fucking nuts.

  29. nellodee
    nellodee September 15, 2005 at 12:46 am |

    Umm, most likely all wisdom is protein-based, ie the biochemistry of consciousness. Unless you believe in Cartesian Dualism.

    But, Allah is so correct. It is like different languages. Mebbe if i strip out all the place names and proper nouns it will make more sense to you feministes, sort of like the gender-neutral languange you are so fond of.
    Look, some stateless, generic terrorists with some random beef against the USA hijacked four planes and crashed them into three buildings, killing somewhat less than four thousand of our tribe. The fourth plane was diverted into the ground, due to the brave efforts of the citizen passengers, and creating a somewhat less desireable outcome for the stateless terrorists, in terms of body count and sheer destruction.
    In return, our government, having as its prime directive “Preserve and Protect” our citizens, set out to destroy the substrate that grows stateless terrorists. Wherever we may find it. Simple enough, sistahs?
    Oh, oh, i know know you’re not my sister, Jill–but could you be my sistah?
    ;-)

  30. Jeff G
    Jeff G September 15, 2005 at 1:02 am |

    “protein wisdom” comes from a line in a story I wrote. Just kinda liked the sound of it. No semen involved in the reference. Just lots of ‘shrooms and Sambuca.

    Incidentally, I just did a site search for “Amanda Marcotte”. It appears 5 times total in all posts and comments. Not sure that qualifies as complaining “constantly” about her, but, hey, if it helps her feel like the world is listening, I can live with it.

    Because I’m a giver.

    Incidentally, the Shannon Elizabeth reference is part of a running series I have on the site. I meant the post to catch your attention, but not to disparage you personally. It’s the content of the post I disagreed with.

    No hard feelings I hope.

  31. Lana
    Lana September 15, 2005 at 1:13 am |

    Thanks to the original poster and all the comments!! I’ve stumbled on to the most hilarious thing in days. It’s the feminist version of Stuart Smalley. I’m smart, I’m cute, and dog-gone it, people like me.

    You people are absolutely priceless! I’m bookmarking this site. Too much fun to digest in one sitting.

    Just out of random curiosity, if someone disagreed with you girls who was not “bitter and lonely” and possibly unattractive, Goddess forbid, what then? After all the ad hom baloney, where exactly do you go? And how do you justify your dengrating women based on their supposed attributes as women and find that at all edifying and empowering?

    Frankly, this is so high school in it’s catty sniping, I have to wonder about the mean age of the average poster here. Still, thanks for the laughs!

  32. Shelby
    Shelby September 15, 2005 at 1:22 am |

    I’m too busy trying to make my postings more attractive to men.

    Hmm. Suggest less arguing that 9/11 was not a declaration of war, and more tits.

  33. Tom
    Tom September 15, 2005 at 6:41 am |

    Oh come on. Jeff has a great sense of humor. Just be cause he makes fun stupid people is no reason to hate him.

  34. AWG
    AWG September 15, 2005 at 7:21 am |

    “Protein Wisdom” is most likely a pun. The British pronunciation of “protein” is similar to the pronunciation of “protean” (“readily taking on varied shapes, forms, or meanings;exhibiting considerable variety or diversity”). And yes, semen is most likely implied, too.

    Now, as to the post at hand. I find it funny that in a thread where a comment such as

    When ignorant people cannot logically argue a point, they almost always revert to … insults. It’s the rule. Unfortunately, we have to live with it.

    was made, we find in the comments of all the regulars:

    a compact, patriotically correct circle jerk

    Leave the White House out of this.

    Why am I still reading what these idiots post?

    Shorter Andrea Harris: I’m just bitter and lonely because Lauren and Jill are cute and have personalities and I don’t. Beatches.

    Wow, talk about penis anxiety.

    He’s a dick.

    I just took a shower, and after that you teased me into reading those flukeworms. Now I need another shower.

    Got to start with intelligence to get to intelligence.

    Andrea Harris is fucking nuts.

    Physicians, heal thyselves.

  35. Jeff G
    Jeff G September 15, 2005 at 12:08 pm |

    Then please, focus on the content.

    Well, I did, I just did it in the comments section. I don’t always use the post proper as a forum to pontificate — just to get the ball rolling.

  36. Lauren
    Lauren September 15, 2005 at 12:20 pm |

    Jeff, I’m having a hard time loading up your site. Is it just me?

  37. Sheelzebub
    Sheelzebub September 15, 2005 at 1:02 pm |

    Funny, it’s no problem when widdle Andrea and the rest of you neo-cons throw out ad-homs, but you sure do squeal like piglets when you get it back in kind.

    Cope.

  38. Jeff G
    Jeff G September 15, 2005 at 3:04 pm |

    No, Lauren. My new dedicated server is failing left and right. 2 days and 4 outages. Do you simply do site design, or are you proficient of looking at code and cleaning it up?

  39. Sigivald
    Sigivald September 15, 2005 at 4:21 pm |

    Sheelzebub: Oooh, neo-cons!

    That stings, I tell you.

    Can you call people Bourgeois Imperialists next?

    (Me, I think it’s fine to call people names, as long as it’s in addition to argument, not replacing it. Ad Hominem is attacking the speaker instead of the argument. Attacking the argument and then calling names is just impolite. There is a difference.

    Kinda like labeling someone a “neo-con” isn’t an argument, either. See Orwell on fascism, except, of course, that as much as neo-con means anything, it applies to anti-fascists these days.)

  40. zuzu
    zuzu September 15, 2005 at 4:30 pm |

    except, of course, that as much as neo-con means anything, it applies to anti-fascists these days.)

    BWAHAHAHAHA!

    Well, at least you didn’t cry anti-semitism.

  41. Sheelzebub
    Sheelzebub September 15, 2005 at 5:11 pm |

    I had no idea neo-con was an insult. I certainly don’t get bent when people call me a liberal. Go figure.

    Here’s a hanky. Wipe your nose and get a clue.

  42. fistfuloffortnights.net
    fistfuloffortnights.net September 17, 2005 at 6:32 am |

    And The Score Is?

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