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By Lauren on 10.10.2005

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Che

Because I can.

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  1. 1
    Chris Clarke 10.10.2005 at 6:31 pm |

    Whodat? Johnny Depp?

  2. 2
    Robert 10.10.2005 at 6:47 pm |

    Just another Good Communist.

  3. 3
    Chris Clarke 10.10.2005 at 6:52 pm |

    Just like Jesus.

  4. 4
    Allah 10.10.2005 at 6:54 pm |

    Sweet. I guess a righty blogger could taunt you back by posting a photo of Eric Rudolph, but frankly, I don’t know a single one who’d be willing to do that. Even as a goof.

  5. 5
    Robert 10.10.2005 at 6:56 pm |

    Just like Jesus.

    Nope. Che’s dead.

  6. 6
    Chris Clarke 10.10.2005 at 6:58 pm |

    At least he actually existed.

    “Let me say, at the risk of seeming ridiculous, that the true revolutionary is guided by great feelings of love.”
    - Ernesto “Che” Guevara

  7. 7
    kate 10.10.2005 at 6:58 pm |

    Link

    Will this defuse the atmosphere in here?

  8. 8
    Lauren 10.10.2005 at 6:58 pm |

    Allah, I’m home sick today. I’ll blame it on that.

  9. 9
    binky 10.10.2005 at 7:40 pm |

    This link is, ah, enlightening.

  10. 10
    Marksman2000 10.10.2005 at 7:43 pm |

    Who is he?

  11. 11
    Amanda 10.10.2005 at 8:50 pm |

    Who is he?

    A young man who existed to be put on T-shirts of other, less oppressed young men in order to get them laid.

  12. 12
    Rob 10.10.2005 at 8:53 pm |

    But which is the more pathetic? That they did it or that it worked?

  13. 13
    David Thompson 10.10.2005 at 8:55 pm |

    Dude needs a haircut.

    Ernesto “Che” Guevara, punked out by Fidel Castro and spent the remainder of his days trying and failing to relive his 15 minutes of fame. “Che” is Hispanic slang that roughly translates as “punk ass bitch”.

  14. 14
    Robert 10.10.2005 at 9:12 pm |

    Who is he?

    Che Guevara.

    Guevara was an Argentinian communist who served as an operative for Castro during the Cuban revolution, becoming notorious for the number of personal executions he committed, generally via a bullet to the back of the neck. He founded the network of prison camps that Cuba would use to imprison gays, democrats, artists, and other dissidents against the revolutionary state. He led a failed attempt to transform Cuba’s agrarian economy into a socialist industrial state. As his star waned in Cuba, he attempted to lead insurrections in Africa and the Americas, leading to a great deal of death and destruction but producing no results. He was captured during another failed revolution in Bolivia and summarily executed.

  15. 15
    Jill 10.10.2005 at 9:23 pm | *

    Who is he?

    …I thought Marksman was kidding. Was this asked in all seriousness?

  16. 16
    Jill 10.10.2005 at 9:23 pm | *

    That said, I think Amanda’s answer is the best.

  17. 17
    Amanda 10.10.2005 at 9:37 pm |

    Does it work? I’ve got no evidence of such and frankly, it’s a big strike against you in my book. Like wearing sandals. *shudder*

  18. 18
    mimbreno 10.10.2005 at 9:38 pm |

    Damn right you can.

    Amanda, I have yet to see a Guevara shirt wearer who looked oppressed at all. No missed meals there. Missed baths, maybe.

  19. 19
    norbizness 10.10.2005 at 9:38 pm |

    You think that’s bad, I’ve got cartoon Stalin on my banner. AND IT’S NOT A JOKE.

  20. 20
    Auguste 10.10.2005 at 9:49 pm |

    Norb, have you been participating in peace marches? Because that’s the hip Stalinist thing to do these days.

  21. 21
    Amanda 10.10.2005 at 9:50 pm |

    *sigh*–missed baths. That seems to be a growing problem that has expanded beyond the wannabe hippie community and is infecting male members of the Hiperati. What’s a horny young single woman who prefers not to wash her sheets 3 times a week to do?

  22. 22
    Bill from INDC 10.10.2005 at 10:07 pm |

    Individual tastes and talents could not be allowed to stand in the way of the revolution. Contrary opinions had to be silenced, and they were. Counterrevolutionary elements were put in “labor camps,” “re-educated,” or imprisoned without trial, many being executed. These were not merely agitators in the employ of robber barons. These were vagrants, drunks, idlers, homosexuals, Christians, poets, and many other classes, including “Cuban youth…who had to go into hiding to listen to [rock albums] which the Revolution, and [Guevara] and his cohorts, dubbed as ‘imperialist music’.”

    When they were given trials, they were showy public farces. When those found guilty were executed, they were executed publicly by firing squad. Their friends and families were paraded in front of the bloody wall. Guevara is said to have signed between 500 and “several thousand” death warrants, though the exact number may never be known. His own count was about 2,500. When they were not given trials, they were bound, gagged, psychologically broken, and then perhaps shot. The number killed without death warrants is unknown.

    In case any still existed outside the camps who opposed the regime, he helped set up a secret police force and the Committees for the Defense of the Revolution, another office for spying on and manipulating the Cuban population.

    Not content with the blood he spilled on his adopted soil, Guevara criticized the USSR for not using its nuclear missiles during the Cuban Missile Crisis, which he said he would have done if he had been in command.

    No honest consideration of Ernesto “Che” Guevara could leave out his overriding ruthlessness. No humane protester could support his totalitarianism. No peace-loving global citizen could sympathize with his call to worldwide armed revolution. No cognizant young hipster should sport the visage of a man who would have imprisoned him.

    Che might have been handsome and brave. But he was also a murderer and a tyrant.

    It is long overdue: smash this idol, for the love of humanity.

  23. 23
    Jill 10.10.2005 at 10:09 pm | *

    it’s a big strike against you in my book. Like wearing sandals. *shudder*

    Dear lord, man-sandals (mandals?) are the worst. Flip-flops I can deal with. Sandals? Please.

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    norbizness 10.10.2005 at 10:19 pm |

    Auguste: Even better, I’ve been writing posts chastising Khruschev for not using nuclear missiles back in the day. In any event, I can’t believe people are criticizing Che Guevara when Pol Pot was so much worse.

  25. 25
    norbizness 10.10.2005 at 10:20 pm |

    Which is a sad thing, because he has a hell of a mug for T-shirts and tote bag.

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    Jon C. 10.10.2005 at 10:31 pm |

    Wearing a Che Guevara t-shirt is always a pretty good indicator that the wearer has absolutely no idea about who Che Guevara actually was. After all, why would anyone in their right mind want to idolize a guy who was basically a Latin version of Jeffrey Dahmer with more resources?

  27. 27
    Lauren 10.10.2005 at 10:32 pm |

    Ah, mandals. Love it.

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    Amanda 10.10.2005 at 10:41 pm |

    Flip-flops suck monkey butt. I say this as a woman who has a pair on the ground that I nabbed off a friend that I used in lieu of garden clogs. But they are so grossly ugly and unsexy that I may have to toss them on principle. Toe splittage is like walking around with a big stick crammed down your ass crack and calling it sexy.

  29. 29
    Paul 10.10.2005 at 10:41 pm |

    My favorite internet retort as of late:

    http://homepage.mac.com/pdanielson/.Pictures/LJShit4/2Che.jpg

  30. 30
    Lauren 10.10.2005 at 11:35 pm |

    Paul: That is so, so bad. I love it.

  31. 31
    randomliberal/Robert 10.11.2005 at 12:02 am |

    There is nothing wrong with guys in sandals. Sandals (especially flip flops) are incredibly comfortable, and women should not be the only people who get to benefit from that comfort.

  32. 32
    Jill 10.11.2005 at 12:04 am | *

    Flip-flops are totally allowed, as long as you don’t have toenail fungus (I’ve been seeing this a lot lately, and it ain’t pretty). As long as it’s not raining, I’m wearing flip-flops. Big fan.

    However, mandals are always a big no-no. And it’s sad that I even have to say it, but if you’ve ever worn sandals with socks, you are a lost cause. It’s worse if they were Tevas. I don’t care that you were hiking.

  33. 33
    Lorenzo 10.11.2005 at 12:47 am |

    Due. Che was a Leninist, with all the butchery of Marx’s work that implies.

  34. 34
    ms. b. 10.11.2005 at 1:56 am |

    Che was a Stalinist!

    (from a Trotskyist, with all the Life of Brian connotations that entails)

  35. 35
    Mark 10.11.2005 at 2:05 am |

    I thought it was a picture of Maddox.
    :D

  36. 36
    Thomas 10.11.2005 at 8:36 am |

    Yes, Ms. B, but if he had lived, would he have become a “drink-soaked former Stalinist poppinjay?”

    (sorry — couldn’t resist)

  37. 37
    Linnaeus 10.11.2005 at 11:59 am |

    Clearly, I’m being hated on here. Not only do I own sandals (a pair of Tevas and a pair of Birkenstocks), but I have been known to wear my Specially Designed For Birkenstock socks with my Birks. Never with the Tevas. That’s going too far.

    *shrug*

    I actually don’t like flip-flops because one side of the heel always gets squished to the point where all that’s between your foot and the pavement is a millimeter of polyurethane.

  38. 38
    Thomas 10.11.2005 at 12:16 pm |

    Amanda, you don’t have to date video-game addicted potheads with poor hygene to find someone that shares your values. Isn’t Austin awash in public defenders, capital case appellate lawyers and assorted other professional causeheads? Because those folks have certain advantages — like goals in life, modest but reliable income, personal hygene and wearing real shoes to work — without sacrificing politics or taste in music.

  39. 39
    Robert 10.11.2005 at 12:58 pm |

    Amanda, you don’t have to date video-game addicted potheads with poor hygene to find someone that shares your values.

    Yes she does. Amanda’s values lead inevitably to pot smoking, viedo games, and sandals. It’s an inexorable fact of history.

    Also, Lauren eats babies.

    (What do you mean, that’s a different thread? All threads are one thread!)

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    Chris Clarke 10.11.2005 at 1:08 pm |

    Guevara is said to have signed between 500 and “several thousand” death warrants, though the exact number may never be known. His own count was about 2,500. When they were not given trials, they were bound, gagged, psychologically broken, and then perhaps shot. The number killed without death warrants is unknown.

    I wonder if Alex got lectures like this when he put up that photo of John Negroponte.

    Still, let’s not quibble. Bill has a point. Lauren, I don’t know where you got this crazy idea of honoring Che, but stop it anyway. You wanna have Feministe wind up being thought of as an homage to state-sponsored mass murderers, like this site is?

    I don’t think so.

  41. 41
    Chris Clarke 10.11.2005 at 1:14 pm |

    Amanda’s values lead inevitably to pot smoking, viedo games, and sandals. It’s an inexorable fact of history.

    Amanda, do you have plans for the weekend?

  42. 42
    LL 10.11.2005 at 1:52 pm |

    Amanda – you live in Austin? Email me – I’m not opposed to sandals, pot-smoking, or video games. And I bathe. heh.

  43. 43
    Marksman2000 10.11.2005 at 3:44 pm |

    I’ve seen the image before but could not put a name together with it.

  44. 44
    Lauren 10.11.2005 at 3:49 pm |

    I think Amanda and Norbizness should get together. Yeah, I said it.

  45. 45
    David Thompson 10.11.2005 at 4:17 pm |

    Should? Hell, they’ve probably been fuckbuddies for a few years by now. Her chances of finding *another* man who will wear the panda costume during relations are pretty slim.

  46. 46
    binky 10.11.2005 at 4:25 pm |

    Not to be, uh, back on track or anything, but Che was responsible for the execution of deserters. Which, by the way, historically, is not an unheard of practice in armies.

  47. 47
    Robert 10.12.2005 at 11:10 am |

    There were 2500 deserters from the Cuban army during the revolution?

  48. 48
    Thomas 10.12.2005 at 11:19 am |

    If you know the history of the Spanish Civil War, shooting people for “treason” and “desertion” and “collaboration with the Trotskyist – Fascists” was how the Stalinists got control of the Republican Army, stole the Spanish treasury and deliberately threw the war.

  49. 49
    ms. b. 10.12.2005 at 12:49 pm |

    Last night I found out Stalin and Mao used to trade inventive insults bearing the word “Trotskyist”. It amused me intensely.

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    Tuomas 10.12.2005 at 4:33 pm |

    Well, you all who hate Che Guevara for being an opportunistic murderer and a tyrant (*raises hand*). You have to admire the poetic justice – comrade Guevara is currently a capitalist consumer icon directed to the specific focus group of “Look how rebellious I am for wearing a controversial icon” -youngsters. Che spinning in his grave, anyone?

    (Btw, this isn’t criticism of the original post, but a way of viewing those pesky Che-shirts with contempt and staying amused by them.)

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