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	<description>In defense of the sanctimonious women&#039;s studies set.</description>
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		<title>By: Harrison</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/11/23/thanksgiving-haiku/#comment-22637</link>
		<dc:creator>Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2005 03:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry am I
that not to the format I did keep
but when haiku I attempt 
ends up reading it usually like Yoda on thorazine!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry am I<br />
that not to the format I did keep<br />
but when haiku I attempt<br />
ends up reading it usually like Yoda on thorazine!</p>
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		<title>By: KnifeGhost</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/11/23/thanksgiving-haiku/#comment-22626</link>
		<dc:creator>KnifeGhost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2005 18:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgive me, karpad.
The urge to be a smart-ass
is too strong in me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgive me, karpad.<br />
The urge to be a smart-ass<br />
is too strong in me.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Clarke</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/11/23/thanksgiving-haiku/#comment-22623</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2005 17:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I’ve forgotten more about indigenous and colonial history than you’re ever likely to learn, kids.&lt;/em&gt;

Forgetting all of it, however, was going a little overboard.

Saying that the indigenous people in North America didn&#039;t know how to form alliances is historically ignorant, because it&#039;s just flat out false, and counterexamples are a dime a dozen.

But even if it were true, saying that that&#039;s the reason whites prevailed is even more historically ignorant, because you ignores technological differences, epidemiology, and population pressure.

You also seem to assume that the natives necessarily saw the conflict as a racial one with whites on one side and all natives in a sort of autochthonous stew on the other. Despite that rather racist take on it, however, Native people were a bit more politically sophisticated than you give them credit for being, and often saw whites as a potential ally in their age-old feuds with other nations. To suggest that the proper course of action there was for 16th- or 17th-century natives to engage reflexively in a sort of racial essentialism is a disturbing notion to hear even from the likes of you.. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I’ve forgotten more about indigenous and colonial history than you’re ever likely to learn, kids.</em></p>
<p>Forgetting all of it, however, was going a little overboard.</p>
<p>Saying that the indigenous people in North America didn&#8217;t know how to form alliances is historically ignorant, because it&#8217;s just flat out false, and counterexamples are a dime a dozen.</p>
<p>But even if it were true, saying that that&#8217;s the reason whites prevailed is even more historically ignorant, because you ignores technological differences, epidemiology, and population pressure.</p>
<p>You also seem to assume that the natives necessarily saw the conflict as a racial one with whites on one side and all natives in a sort of autochthonous stew on the other. Despite that rather racist take on it, however, Native people were a bit more politically sophisticated than you give them credit for being, and often saw whites as a potential ally in their age-old feuds with other nations. To suggest that the proper course of action there was for 16th- or 17th-century natives to engage reflexively in a sort of racial essentialism is a disturbing notion to hear even from the likes of you..</p>
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		<title>By: karpad</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/11/23/thanksgiving-haiku/#comment-22616</link>
		<dc:creator>karpad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2005 15:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>though that Robert guy
is a patronizing jerk
format is dumb, ghost</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>though that Robert guy<br />
is a patronizing jerk<br />
format is dumb, ghost</p>
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		<title>By: Kelley Bell</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/11/23/thanksgiving-haiku/#comment-22610</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelley Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2005 12:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pompus Western Arrogance
fed by Mother Natures Kin
Bit the hand that fed it

When will the madness End?

(Sorry about the format...Im just a natural born Rule Breaker.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pompus Western Arrogance<br />
fed by Mother Natures Kin<br />
Bit the hand that fed it</p>
<p>When will the madness End?</p>
<p>(Sorry about the format&#8230;Im just a natural born Rule Breaker.)</p>
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		<title>By: KnifeGhost</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/11/23/thanksgiving-haiku/#comment-22607</link>
		<dc:creator>KnifeGhost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2005 08:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good call, Harrison,
But please keep to the format.
Haiku, or no post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good call, Harrison,<br />
But please keep to the format.<br />
Haiku, or no post!</p>
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		<title>By: Harrison</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/11/23/thanksgiving-haiku/#comment-22590</link>
		<dc:creator>Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2005 20:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’ve forgotten more about indigenous and colonial history than you’re ever likely to learn, kids.

Tried to get that into a haiku, but it wouldn’t fit right off the bat, and I’ve got a toddler to get off the Nona’s for turkey and pie.

Happy Thanksgiving! &lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s the way to influence people--patronize and insult them! Well, despite that, this iggerant liberal wishes you a Happy Thanksgiving, too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’ve forgotten more about indigenous and colonial history than you’re ever likely to learn, kids.</p>
<p>Tried to get that into a haiku, but it wouldn’t fit right off the bat, and I’ve got a toddler to get off the Nona’s for turkey and pie.</p>
<p>Happy Thanksgiving! </p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s the way to influence people&#8211;patronize and insult them! Well, despite that, this iggerant liberal wishes you a Happy Thanksgiving, too!</p>
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		<title>By: KnifeGhost</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/11/23/thanksgiving-haiku/#comment-22588</link>
		<dc:creator>KnifeGhost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2005 20:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert, let me ask,
which side&#039;s story did you learn?
I learned the red man&#039;s.

Thanksgiving story:
Peaceful Natives and Pilgrims.
Too bad it&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://indy.pabn.org/archives/213thank.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bullshit&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert, let me ask,<br />
which side&#8217;s story did you learn?<br />
I learned the red man&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Thanksgiving story:<br />
Peaceful Natives and Pilgrims.<br />
Too bad it&#8217;s <a href="http://indy.pabn.org/archives/213thank.shtml" rel="nofollow">bullshit</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: ALadyWhoLikesToRead</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/11/23/thanksgiving-haiku/#comment-22586</link>
		<dc:creator>ALadyWhoLikesToRead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2005 20:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate this holiday for the very exchange in which i just participated.  This is why i prefer to sit at the kids table, if i have to attend some big cheezy dinner.  Adults suck.

Okay, i&#039;ll be nice.  Here&#039;s some lovely photos from the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ashesandsnow.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ashes and Snow Exhibit&lt;/a&gt; moving to ... Santa Monica ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate this holiday for the very exchange in which i just participated.  This is why i prefer to sit at the kids table, if i have to attend some big cheezy dinner.  Adults suck.</p>
<p>Okay, i&#8217;ll be nice.  Here&#8217;s some lovely photos from the <a href="http://www.ashesandsnow.org/" rel="nofollow">Ashes and Snow Exhibit</a> moving to &#8230; Santa Monica ?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/11/23/thanksgiving-haiku/#comment-22583</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2005 19:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve forgotten more about indigenous and colonial history than you&#039;re ever likely to learn, kids.

Tried to get that into a haiku, but it wouldn&#039;t fit right off the bat, and I&#039;ve got a toddler to get off the Nona&#039;s for turkey and pie.

Happy Thanksgiving!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve forgotten more about indigenous and colonial history than you&#8217;re ever likely to learn, kids.</p>
<p>Tried to get that into a haiku, but it wouldn&#8217;t fit right off the bat, and I&#8217;ve got a toddler to get off the Nona&#8217;s for turkey and pie.</p>
<p>Happy Thanksgiving!</p>
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