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	<description>In defense of the sanctimonious women&#039;s studies set.</description>
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		<title>By: nn</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/12/04/bah-humbug/#comment-24494</link>
		<dc:creator>nn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 09:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, India isnt a Hindu country. Its a secular country. Constitutionally as well as practically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, India isnt a Hindu country. Its a secular country. Constitutionally as well as practically.</p>
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		<title>By: Feministe &#187; Jesus Poetry, Add Pundit</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/12/04/bah-humbug/#comment-24428</link>
		<dc:creator>Feministe &#187; Jesus Poetry, Add Pundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 00:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] rance of The Holiday Formerly Known as Christmas and can barely keep a straight face. 	See Jill&#8217;s take below.  	 					 				 					 						This entry was posted 						 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: J-ha</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/12/04/bah-humbug/#comment-24222</link>
		<dc:creator>J-ha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 23:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. . . . They are altogether brutish and foolish.&quot; (Jeremiah 10:2-8)

God hates christmas trees. It&#039;s a fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. . . . They are altogether brutish and foolish.&#8221; (Jeremiah 10:2-8)</p>
<p>God hates christmas trees. It&#8217;s a fact.</p>
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		<title>By: randomliberal/Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/12/04/bah-humbug/#comment-24205</link>
		<dc:creator>randomliberal/Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 21:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just going to make it easier on myself and call the winter holiday what it really was to begin with.

So, everyone have a Blessed Winter Solstice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just going to make it easier on myself and call the winter holiday what it really was to begin with.</p>
<p>So, everyone have a Blessed Winter Solstice.</p>
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		<title>By: KMarissa</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/12/04/bah-humbug/#comment-24203</link>
		<dc:creator>KMarissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 21:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;As for Jill and Moebius Stripper, not once did I claim in my post that people were being barred from saying or even celebrating Christmas.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Starla, I believe people are referencing this earlier quote:

&lt;blockquote&gt;If I am allowed to celebrate those holidays here in America, then why aren’t people allowed to celebrate Christmas? And that includes being able to say the phrase “Merry Christmas”.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>As for Jill and Moebius Stripper, not once did I claim in my post that people were being barred from saying or even celebrating Christmas.</p></blockquote>
<p>Starla, I believe people are referencing this earlier quote:</p>
<blockquote><p>If I am allowed to celebrate those holidays here in America, then why aren’t people allowed to celebrate Christmas? And that includes being able to say the phrase “Merry Christmas”.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Moebius Stripper</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/12/04/bah-humbug/#comment-24186</link>
		<dc:creator>Moebius Stripper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 20:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;...it kind of
     undermines the argument, &lt;b&gt;which Moebius seems to be making&lt;/b&gt;, that
     there&#039;s some sort of conspiracy to deny the significance of Jewish
     holy days.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What? Seriously, I mean...what? Help me out here, please, because I am rereading everything I&#039;ve written in this thread and can&#039;t for the life of me see how in the world it could possibly &quot;seem&quot; that I am making such an absurd point.

Note to self: next time, instead of trying to explain my position, just post a picture of an ink blot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8230;it kind of<br />
     undermines the argument, <b>which Moebius seems to be making</b>, that<br />
     there&#8217;s some sort of conspiracy to deny the significance of Jewish<br />
     holy days.</p></blockquote>
<p>What? Seriously, I mean&#8230;what? Help me out here, please, because I am rereading everything I&#8217;ve written in this thread and can&#8217;t for the life of me see how in the world it could possibly &#8220;seem&#8221; that I am making such an absurd point.</p>
<p>Note to self: next time, instead of trying to explain my position, just post a picture of an ink blot.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/12/04/bah-humbug/#comment-24185</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 20:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Ilyka,

I acknowledged that you were polite in your first post and that you&#039;re not a rabid holy warrior.  And that you respected both sides.

Only problem is there is no respecting the people who are ranting about the &quot;War on Christmas.&quot;   It&#039;s ridiculous.  So you shouldn&#039;t feel sympathy for those people.

And when I said that these Christian Warriors are motivated by a fear that white Christians won&#039;t dominate our culture like they did in the 1950s, I wasn&#039;t saying that you thought that way.   I&#039;m saying I think that&#039;s where this crusade is coming from.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Ilyka,</p>
<p>I acknowledged that you were polite in your first post and that you&#8217;re not a rabid holy warrior.  And that you respected both sides.</p>
<p>Only problem is there is no respecting the people who are ranting about the &#8220;War on Christmas.&#8221;   It&#8217;s ridiculous.  So you shouldn&#8217;t feel sympathy for those people.</p>
<p>And when I said that these Christian Warriors are motivated by a fear that white Christians won&#8217;t dominate our culture like they did in the 1950s, I wasn&#8217;t saying that you thought that way.   I&#8217;m saying I think that&#8217;s where this crusade is coming from.</p>
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		<title>By: Starla</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/12/04/bah-humbug/#comment-24184</link>
		<dc:creator>Starla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 19:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think some people would be quite at home where I work, all we have up are clear christmas lights around the landscaping area, lol

The only holidays my work isn&#039;t very PC about are Fourth of July, Veterans Day, &amp; President&#039;s Day.  Pretty much anything considered &quot;patriotic&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think some people would be quite at home where I work, all we have up are clear christmas lights around the landscaping area, lol</p>
<p>The only holidays my work isn&#8217;t very PC about are Fourth of July, Veterans Day, &amp; President&#8217;s Day.  Pretty much anything considered &#8220;patriotic&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/12/04/bah-humbug/#comment-24182</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 19:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Honest to fuck, sometimes I don’t know why I ever think clicking “Submit Comment” is a good idea here.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Maybe it&#039;s because you want to be a martyr?  You know, the whole Christian persecution complex thing?

After all, in your first post you did say:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m probably just going to land myself in hot water for this . . . &lt;/blockquote&gt;

You&#039;re the one that put the cross up, we simply nailed you to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Honest to fuck, sometimes I don’t know why I ever think clicking “Submit Comment” is a good idea here.</p></blockquote>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s because you want to be a martyr?  You know, the whole Christian persecution complex thing?</p>
<p>After all, in your first post you did say:</p>
<blockquote><p>I’m probably just going to land myself in hot water for this . . . </p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re the one that put the cross up, we simply nailed you to it.</p>
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		<title>By: zuzu</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/12/04/bah-humbug/#comment-24181</link>
		<dc:creator>zuzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 19:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;My point was simly that when you’ve got Catholic schools granting time off for Jewish holidays but not Catholic ones, it kind of undermines the argument, which Moebius seems to be making, that there’s some sort of conspiracy to deny the significance of Jewish holy days. 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It doesn&#039;t undermine the argument because you&#039;re trying to equate a relatively minor Catholic holy day with THE High Holy Day on the Jewish calendar, simply because it falls within the same month.  Yom Kippur and All Saint&#039;s Day are in no way equivalent.

I see that your school closes in April 2006 for Holy Thursday, Good Friday and the Monday after Easter, which is the holiest of the Catholic holidays.  But it doesn&#039;t close for Passover, the Jewish holiday occurring right around that time of year.  So the logic you&#039;re using doesn&#039;t wash.

That a Catholic university in New York City would close for the Jewish High Holidays is no surprise, given that a significant portion of their student body and faculty is unlikely to show up due to religious observances.  

Your school doesn&#039;t close on Ash Wednesday, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>My point was simly that when you’ve got Catholic schools granting time off for Jewish holidays but not Catholic ones, it kind of undermines the argument, which Moebius seems to be making, that there’s some sort of conspiracy to deny the significance of Jewish holy days.
</p></blockquote>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t undermine the argument because you&#8217;re trying to equate a relatively minor Catholic holy day with THE High Holy Day on the Jewish calendar, simply because it falls within the same month.  Yom Kippur and All Saint&#8217;s Day are in no way equivalent.</p>
<p>I see that your school closes in April 2006 for Holy Thursday, Good Friday and the Monday after Easter, which is the holiest of the Catholic holidays.  But it doesn&#8217;t close for Passover, the Jewish holiday occurring right around that time of year.  So the logic you&#8217;re using doesn&#8217;t wash.</p>
<p>That a Catholic university in New York City would close for the Jewish High Holidays is no surprise, given that a significant portion of their student body and faculty is unlikely to show up due to religious observances.  </p>
<p>Your school doesn&#8217;t close on Ash Wednesday, either.</p>
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