The outrageous news from yesterday pushes me to believe that, even as non-violent and non-activist citizens, we need to cultivate a security culture. Though the preliminary reports are likely incomplete, the information provided by the Times and WaPo, expanded upon by Hilzoy, Terrance, and Avedon Carol, is chilling.
More disturbing is that the Times had this story for over a year and, for whatever reason, did not publish the information. Election politics? The Times also did not disclose what circumstances surrounding the story changed, enabling them to publish the story after sitting on it for a year. To our detriment.
Worse, Bush came out today defending his use of this arguably unconstitutional practice citing that the American people want him to do whatever it takes to “protect” us, and assuring us that it had been cleared by the Justice Department. Thankfully many politicians are refusing to toe a party line and defend the president on this business. Arlen Specter, Judiciary Committee Chairman and Pennsylvania Republican, “planned to investigate use of the wiretaps after the New York Times reported on them. Specter, said such a practice would be ‘clearly and categorically wrong.’”
From Forbes:
According to former officials familiar with the policy, Bush signed an executive order in 2002 granting new surveillance powers to the National Security Agency — the branch of the U.S. intelligence services responsible for international eavesdropping, and whose existence was long denied by the government.
“I want to know precisely what they did: how NSA utilized their technical equipment, whose conversations they overheard, how many conversations they overheard, what they did with the material, what purported justification there was … and we will go from there,” Specter said.
I’m donning my tinfoil cap. *cough*
Also read Bush on Wiretapping : I Did It And I’ll Do It Again, and for a more political angle, Bush’s Critics Are Absolutely Right: The President Must Not be Above the Law
Update: Ezra gets at the heart of the matter. via Majikthise
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Fourth Amendment, Schmourth Amendment. Wasn’t it Ben Franklin that said “Those who do whatever it takes to sacrifice liberty for security shall go down as a lamentable blot in American history”?
heh. Before I clicked on the link for security culture, I was going to point you at Public Eye, which used to have something very similar.
I was in the information security biz for awhile–still am, actually, I’m just not writing about it on a daily basis like I used to. You don’t even want to know what goes on in corporations. If I had more time, I would write an even longer, more detailed guide. Plus, a “Top Ten Signs You’re Becomeing Too Paranoid” guide. :)
Poor Richard is spinning in his grave.
I think Jeff pretty much covers this one.
I’ll look forward to the outraged demands for an investigation of who leaked this material, which endangers American security and puts lives at risk, from everyone who went ballistic over the Plame affair.
Hm, knowledge this is occurring illegally, or leak investigation? Right.
I always have a little bit more sympathy for those who whiste-blow on illegal activities, but if that’s what it takes, Robert (dual investigations of the leak and the conduct revealed by the leak), then I’m all for it.
What law do you allege is being broken?
The New York Times never said the Bushies were doing anything illegal, you’ll note. And a Dem strategist moments ago on one of the news channels backpeddled and noted she believed the Times was wrong to print the story.
When the smoke clears — if it turns out all was done legally and without a single tear to the Constitution — will you promise to devote your outrage to the leakers? Or is national security too quaint — outrage only goes with Speaking Truth to Power?
Please let me know. Because I really am curious.
I second Norbizness.
Don’t do it, they only increase the government’s ability to read you mind.
I’m confused. What is it that you want investigated, exactly? The existence of the NSA? The executive authority of the President? The existence of al-Qaeda?
NSA/COINTELPRO was a joke, dear humorist. Your outrage is directed where?
How about an investigation why the administration didn’t bother getting court warrants to set up wiretaps, as required by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act and the Fourth Amendment?
UNITED STATES v. UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT, 407 U.S. 297 (1972)
Shorter Robert: “Exposing illegal activity, illegally exposing activity. What’s the diff?”
Here’s something else that looks troubling:
Unless there’s a lot more that I don’t know about, this is pretty astounding to me.
On the other hand, there’s a sense among some in the F.B.I. that they’re not getting the access they need, including this tidbit:
An instutitional culture that lays blame at the foot of “radical militant librarians” seems to me to be one that warrants restraint, rather than expanded powers. Honestly, I don’t think one needs to be some wild-eyed radical to be concerned about this kind of thing.
The irony here is that if you as an American call or are called by someone in a foreign country (which this is all about), chances are that that the foreign country could already be listening in anyway. I’m in Canada and call Americans every day and I get calls too. CSIS could already be listening anyway and I certainly not concerned that the NSA could be doing it too. Now when someone is harmed in some way by this, there is a story but given the sheer number of international calls going on, I bet that they are very selective and quickly whitelist most numbers.
Shorter Jeff Goldtsein: a real civil libertarian wouldn’t care about warrantless searches performed by a president who asserts that his authority in wartime should be virtually unbounded by law, but would rather be agititating for the aggresive enforcement of the Espinoage Act that was used to throw Eugene Debs in jail for 10 years for making a speech.
Fake libertarianism just keeps gettin’ faker…
This would not be as big a deal if the rightwing, and this admin, had not repeatedly shown that they equate wide areas of political dissent with “treason”. There are legit arguments for doing what he did, but the real problem is that many americans no longer trust that he will only spy on “real” terrorists & supporters.
It’s not that surveillance is being done that’s the issue, it’s that the Administration has decided that the procedures which are clearly set out in FISA — that a court warrant be obtained in advance, or, in an emergency, that the court be notified within 72 hours so that it can retroactively issue a warrant — do not have to be followed by them. Rules are for little people.
Getting the warrant does not slow or prevent the gathering of intelligence, but it does create a check on executive-branch power. The Administration has decided that nobody can put any limitations on the president’s power in matters involving terrorism, so they just decided they didn’t have to follow the law.
Of course, Nixon tried this argument, too, and it was not well-received by the Supreme Court.
Another thing I don’t understand is what they planned to do if they wanted to use evidence gathered with one of these illegal wiretaps at trial. They couldn’t use it, and it would actually compromise their efforts at fighting domestic terrorism. But these people aren’t really serious about fighting terrorism, not nearly as serious as they are about asserting power.
A FISA warrant is only needed if the subject communications are wholly contained in the United States and involve a foreign power or an agent of a foreign power.
These calls, apparently, do not meet that criteria. There does not appear to be a legal issue here.
A warrant is also needed if “a United States person” is party to the communication.
Even absent FISA, the Fourth Amendment prohibits warrantless surveillance of US persons.
And the “United States person” is mitigated by connection to a foreign power. This is REAL identity politics — and we’ll see to where the President’s wartime authority extends.
Scott Lemieux thinks it cute to question my commitment to civil liberties, but to do so he’s forced to beg the question about “warrantless searches,” which under certain circumstances are within the President’s power to authorize.
Incidentally, I find it amusing that much of the outrage over listening to phone calls of individuals found on Al Qaeda members’ rolodexes after 911 is being proferred by those who would support city-wide smoking bans and the like.
Perhaps if I suggested that careful scrutiny of those plotting our murder would keep us safe from second hand smoke — for the children! — I could get some amens!
Jeff, pay attention: it’s not that the wires were tapped.
It’s that the president had the wires tapped without obtaining warrants, either prospectively or retroactively, in violation of FISA and the Fourth Amendment.
Between 1979, when FISA went into effect, and 2002, not one warrant request was denied.
In 2002-3, four requests were denied:
It was in 2003 that the end run around FISA started happening.
I’m not sure what you mean by “mitigated.” The statute is quite clear, though apparently the right blogosphere has been passing around a post which misquotes the statute:
So by the express terms of the statute, the fact that a non-governmental foreign terrorist organization is party to the communication with a US person does not allow the executive to conduct wiretapping without a warrant.
“Scott Lemieux thinks it cute to question my commitment to civil liberties, but to do so he’s forced to beg the question about “warrantless searches,” which under certain circumstances are within the President’s power to authorize.”
Except, of course, not under these cirumstances. The actions Bush has admitted to 1)clearly violate the relevant statute, 2)clearly violate the Fourth Amendment without the exigent cirumstances that would save them, and 3)do all of this despite the existence of a perfectly viable legal framework that uses a low standard for granting warrants. Do you have any argument –without using the phrase “Chimpy McHaliburton” or whatever–about why these warrantless seraches are legal? And, even if you argue that they’re legal under the Yoo “the President’s wartime powers trump all” argument, how on earth they could be consistent with a robust commitment to civil liberties?
I find it amusing that much of the outrage over listening to phone calls of individuals found on Al Qaeda members’ rolodexes after 911 is being proferred by those who would support city-wide smoking bans and the like.
Now there’s a non sequitur you don’t see every day!
What happened to the conservatives whining about jackbooted thugs and the oppressive Feds?
Exactly. Let’s all imagine if after Oklahoma City Clinton had started wiretapping high ranking members of the NRA without warrants because they’d found references to them in McVeigh’s rolodex.