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	<title>Comments on: You Know What&#8217;s Fun?</title>
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	<description>In defense of the sanctimonious women&#039;s studies set.</description>
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		<title>By: PG</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/01/02/you-know-whats-fun/#comment-27480</link>
		<dc:creator>PG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2006 16:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That xoxohth or autoadmit or whatever the hell it is board is notorious for being filled with trolls, maniacs, bigots, LSAT-score-flaunters who need to compensate for small penises (two can play the physical insult game), etc. etc.  Being attacked there ought to be taken as a badge of honor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That xoxohth or autoadmit or whatever the hell it is board is notorious for being filled with trolls, maniacs, bigots, LSAT-score-flaunters who need to compensate for small penises (two can play the physical insult game), etc. etc.  Being attacked there ought to be taken as a badge of honor.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Head</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/01/02/you-know-whats-fun/#comment-27210</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Head</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 05:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen!</p>
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		<title>By: ricia</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/01/02/you-know-whats-fun/#comment-26977</link>
		<dc:creator>ricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 18:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who cares what you look like or whether or not anyone on the blogosphere finds you fuckable.

Those idiots are too jeuvenile to regard as worthy of comment.

From what I can tell of your writing and the nature of your posts, you are both witty, clever, compassionate, strong and upstanding individuals whom clearly deserve every equally as fantastic person you encounter and that graces your lives.

I think you&#039;re the shit, just based on that criteria alone. And so would anyone worthy of your interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who cares what you look like or whether or not anyone on the blogosphere finds you fuckable.</p>
<p>Those idiots are too jeuvenile to regard as worthy of comment.</p>
<p>From what I can tell of your writing and the nature of your posts, you are both witty, clever, compassionate, strong and upstanding individuals whom clearly deserve every equally as fantastic person you encounter and that graces your lives.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re the shit, just based on that criteria alone. And so would anyone worthy of your interest.</p>
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		<title>By: flawedplan</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/01/02/you-know-whats-fun/#comment-26938</link>
		<dc:creator>flawedplan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 11:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the above comment that this sort of thing takes getting used to, it&#039;s a shock to see pages of threads about your own self, regardless of the content, the fact of its existence replaces your own lens and can make you see yourself as an object of study, at least that was what I found destabilizing when it first happened to me online.  
The virtiol and hostility is easily dismissible, but just want to say to Jill if you feel you&#039;re more interested in what they are saying than you think what they say warrants, it&#039;s understandable-- I wish someone would have told me it was ok to give myself room to be preoccupied for however long I need, since in time I came to accomodate this sort of bullshit with alacrity. But for a few weeks it was my ruling nightmare and in retrospect I think  that&#039;s understandable.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the above comment that this sort of thing takes getting used to, it&#8217;s a shock to see pages of threads about your own self, regardless of the content, the fact of its existence replaces your own lens and can make you see yourself as an object of study, at least that was what I found destabilizing when it first happened to me online.<br />
The virtiol and hostility is easily dismissible, but just want to say to Jill if you feel you&#8217;re more interested in what they are saying than you think what they say warrants, it&#8217;s understandable&#8211; I wish someone would have told me it was ok to give myself room to be preoccupied for however long I need, since in time I came to accomodate this sort of bullshit with alacrity. But for a few weeks it was my ruling nightmare and in retrospect I think  that&#8217;s understandable.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff G</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/01/02/you-know-whats-fun/#comment-26912</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 09:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some girls are effing dense too, anashi.

Let&#039;s not be sexist AND miss the point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some girls are effing dense too, anashi.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not be sexist AND miss the point.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/01/02/you-know-whats-fun/#comment-26899</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 07:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;This is not the bash Amanda board. Use your own blog. — Lauren&lt;/i&gt;

Aw, you&#039;re no fun.  Fair enough.

(Or should I say, w yr n fn. Fr ngh.)

You know, if I read that three times fast, I bet Cthulhu will appear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>This is not the bash Amanda board. Use your own blog. — Lauren</i></p>
<p>Aw, you&#8217;re no fun.  Fair enough.</p>
<p>(Or should I say, w yr n fn. Fr ngh.)</p>
<p>You know, if I read that three times fast, I bet Cthulhu will appear.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Clarke</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/01/02/you-know-whats-fun/#comment-26891</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 07:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;And for the record, it does bother me that we live on a planet where if Jill did weigh 400 pounds, it’d matter. &lt;/em&gt;

Unlike, say, Jupiter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>And for the record, it does bother me that we live on a planet where if Jill did weigh 400 pounds, it’d matter. </em></p>
<p>Unlike, say, Jupiter.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Head</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/01/02/you-know-whats-fun/#comment-26889</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Head</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 06:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of this kind of reminds me of what happens to online support groups for people who have craniofacial conditions.  They tend to shut down when losers steal kids&#039; photos up and put them up on &quot;comedy&quot; web sites.

There seems to be this idea--separate from misogyny, though there was obviously a lot of misogyny in this case--that if you&#039;re not pretty, you&#039;re not human.  Anyone remember the Brian Pepper situation?  I posted about that on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://msgboard.snopes.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=60;t=000926;p=0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Snopes message board&lt;/a&gt;.  Emailed the site administrator to explain, as a lay expert on Crouzon Syndrome, that Pepper had obviously suffered facial trauma--that his symptoms could not be explained by any craniofacial dysostosis with which I was familiar.  Got zero response from the Snopes administrator and, as you can see, didn&#039;t get a universally promising response in the thread, either.

Later discovered that someone had found his home phone number and called him to harass him, then taped it for distribution.  Fun.

He may be a really nasty piece of work--I have no idea what &quot;gross sexual imposition&quot; means in Ohio--but the fact that any human being could be fair game, to this extent, bugged me.  It also bugged me that other people reading these sites who might have suffered similar trauma might well be driven to suicide by the way Pepper was treated.

I want to clarify that I didn&#039;t mean to dignify these jokers&#039; comments with an answer by saying I think Jill&#039;s pretty.  I do, but my real reason for saying that is that when I see people attacked for their looks, of either gender, I feel like that&#039;s what they need to hear right then.  Maybe that&#039;s a bad strategy when I&#039;m dealing with folks who are being attacked by misogynists, because I recognize that implies that it &lt;em&gt;matters&lt;/em&gt; whether or not they&#039;re seen as &quot;pretty,&quot; and of course it shouldn&#039;t.

And I do know that, when I was once attacked for being Jewish, my answer to that was not &quot;I&#039;m not Jewish.&quot;  So I can totally relate where you folks are coming from on taking offense to the &quot;pretty&quot; thing.  

I don&#039;t know.  It&#039;s a complicated world with some very nasty people in it, and I don&#039;t feel like it&#039;s always possible to respond to their hostility in a dignified, enlightened way.  Or if it is, I&#039;m still struggling with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of this kind of reminds me of what happens to online support groups for people who have craniofacial conditions.  They tend to shut down when losers steal kids&#8217; photos up and put them up on &#8220;comedy&#8221; web sites.</p>
<p>There seems to be this idea&#8211;separate from misogyny, though there was obviously a lot of misogyny in this case&#8211;that if you&#8217;re not pretty, you&#8217;re not human.  Anyone remember the Brian Pepper situation?  I posted about that on the <a href="http://msgboard.snopes.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=60;t=000926;p=0" rel="nofollow">Snopes message board</a>.  Emailed the site administrator to explain, as a lay expert on Crouzon Syndrome, that Pepper had obviously suffered facial trauma&#8211;that his symptoms could not be explained by any craniofacial dysostosis with which I was familiar.  Got zero response from the Snopes administrator and, as you can see, didn&#8217;t get a universally promising response in the thread, either.</p>
<p>Later discovered that someone had found his home phone number and called him to harass him, then taped it for distribution.  Fun.</p>
<p>He may be a really nasty piece of work&#8211;I have no idea what &#8220;gross sexual imposition&#8221; means in Ohio&#8211;but the fact that any human being could be fair game, to this extent, bugged me.  It also bugged me that other people reading these sites who might have suffered similar trauma might well be driven to suicide by the way Pepper was treated.</p>
<p>I want to clarify that I didn&#8217;t mean to dignify these jokers&#8217; comments with an answer by saying I think Jill&#8217;s pretty.  I do, but my real reason for saying that is that when I see people attacked for their looks, of either gender, I feel like that&#8217;s what they need to hear right then.  Maybe that&#8217;s a bad strategy when I&#8217;m dealing with folks who are being attacked by misogynists, because I recognize that implies that it <em>matters</em> whether or not they&#8217;re seen as &#8220;pretty,&#8221; and of course it shouldn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>And I do know that, when I was once attacked for being Jewish, my answer to that was not &#8220;I&#8217;m not Jewish.&#8221;  So I can totally relate where you folks are coming from on taking offense to the &#8220;pretty&#8221; thing.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know.  It&#8217;s a complicated world with some very nasty people in it, and I don&#8217;t feel like it&#8217;s always possible to respond to their hostility in a dignified, enlightened way.  Or if it is, I&#8217;m still struggling with that.</p>
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		<title>By: anashi</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/01/02/you-know-whats-fun/#comment-26887</link>
		<dc:creator>anashi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 06:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, did you read anything besides them saying she was hot, like the disturbing sexual stuff. Jesus. Some guys are effing dense. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, did you read anything besides them saying she was hot, like the disturbing sexual stuff. Jesus. Some guys are effing dense.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff G</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/01/02/you-know-whats-fun/#comment-26885</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 06:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really, I think none of this is worth getting upset about.

Of course, that&#039;s easy for me to say.  I&#039;m a total babe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really, I think none of this is worth getting upset about.</p>
<p>Of course, that&#8217;s easy for me to say.  I&#8217;m a total babe.</p>
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