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Jill has been blogging for Feministe since 2005.
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  1. Lauren
    Lauren January 27, 2006 at 10:45 am |

    At least sodomy is legal. AND it saves the hymen.

  2. renee
    renee January 27, 2006 at 11:29 am |

    i’m sorry to say that i live in missouri and yeah, this pisses me off. i’m fortunate to live in the little progressive bubble that is columbia, mo (gotta love college towns), but it’s scary outside of town. i’m just glad that my husband had a vasectomy. between the 2 of us we’ve got 8 kids. we would not consider another baby to be a blessing from god, that’s for damn sure.

    i live right down the street from a planned parenthood. i’ve been wondering how these new laws have affected them in terms of hospital privileges. since there are 3 big hospitals here in town, i’m hoping they’re ok.

    i keep trying to vote these fucktards out of office, but i’m outnumbered:(

    it suddenly occurs to me that perhaps there would be a need for something like NYC’s Safe Haven here in MO? I would be happy to host anyone who has to travel long distance for an abortion. like i said, it’s right down the street.

  3. Antigone
    Antigone January 27, 2006 at 12:38 pm |

    WTF is up with this conservative idea of “self-control”? Why the fuck is that such a great moral choice?

    The only time “self-control” is necessary is to avoid dangering others, and if you individually do not feel the consequences are worth the actions. THAT’S IT. Other than that, all self-denial does is make you frustrated and fixated.

    A human being has a very normal desire for sex. There is not a good reason to indulge that desire (in moderation, of course) IF you understand the consequences, and you are not being pressured against your will.

    This “self-control”, self-denial thing is bullshit. There’s not a good reason to punish yourself.

  4. galnoir
    galnoir January 27, 2006 at 12:54 pm |

    it suddenly occurs to me that perhaps there would be a need for something like NYC’s Safe Haven here in MO? I would be happy to host anyone who has to travel long distance for an abortion. like i said, it’s right down the street.

    Yeah, but unfortunately, the Columbia Planned Parenthood doesn’t provide abortions anymore. Otherwise, the “Lisa” featured in the Time article could have come to Columbia instead of traveling to St. Louis.

    But otherwise, I think the idea of a Safe Haven program for Missouri—something based in the St. Louis area—is sound.

  5. Nymphalidae
    Nymphalidae January 27, 2006 at 1:22 pm |

    My husband and I recently moved to Columbia from the upper Midwest. One of the first things we saw was a semitruck with pictures of aborted fetuses on the side. Columbia is nice, but I’ve had to drive around some of the backwoodsy areas of MO for my research, and it’s scary as hell.

  6. pmoney
    pmoney January 27, 2006 at 2:38 pm |

    This “self-control”, self-denial thing is bullshit. There’s not a good reason to punish yourself.

    Amen! I’m so tired of that stupid bullshit.

  7. Robert
    Robert January 27, 2006 at 2:43 pm |

    Yeah! Hard work, moderation, self-control, responsibility – these are the memes of FASCISM, man!

    Fuck that noise. Pass me the bong.

  8. Robert
    Robert January 27, 2006 at 4:41 pm |

    Responsibility is how the MAN keeps us DOWN. Don’t bring your filthy propaganda lies in here, Jill.

    (Oh wait. This is your site. Never mind.)

  9. Thomas
    Thomas January 27, 2006 at 5:49 pm |

    Robert, this meme that progressives are irresponsible and undisciplined is without foundation. I hold the billable hour records at my firm for week and month (and I guess day, though plenty of us have a bunch of 24-hour billable days). I’m a taxpayer, a registered voter, a homeowner, a teetotaler, and I’m on the board of a charity. Whoever this caricature you’re talking about is, I have not met him.

  10. Robert
    Robert January 27, 2006 at 6:51 pm |

    Whoever this caricature you’re talking about is, I have not met him

    Well, of course not. You’re in the office 24 hours a day, at least according to your billing records. He would never come into a place containing so many establishment tools, man.

  11. Chet
    Chet January 27, 2006 at 8:04 pm |

    Nobody who needs the threat of a big magic sky-man’s angry vengance to do the right thing actually has any “self-control.” The idea that self-control and moderation are somehow the province of the restrictive religious right and social conservatives is laughable. People who are told what to do by a magic book every waking hour don’t need self-control. People who realize we’re all essentially free, including, free to fuck things up royally, and yet don’t largely do it anyway, are the only people who can be said to have self-control.

  12. Laura
    Laura January 27, 2006 at 8:08 pm |

    What really makes me go “What the freaking hell?” is all the bullshit about abstinance only education and the horsecrap about protecting self-righteous asshole pharmacists.

    My parents are both really anti-abortion. But they are also really really really pro-birth control. Even though they’re Catholic. Even though they had four kids (perhaps BECAUSE they had four kids … ). As far as I can tell, their attitude is basically “Do all you can to prevent getting pregnant if you don’t want to be, but once you are, you have to see it through.” I may not agree with it, but I can at least see some vague semblence of logic behind it, especially knowing that two of my siblings weren’t planned. But these abstinence only crazies make no damn sense to me at all.

  13. Robert
    Robert January 27, 2006 at 8:50 pm |

    The idea that self-control and moderation are somehow the province of the restrictive religious right and social conservatives is laughable.

    True. Every human being is responsible for their own self-control, and should be expected to moderate their own behavior.

    People who are told what to do by a magic book every waking hour don’t need self-control.

    Following a philosophy articulated by someone else, in preference to following one’s own heart desires, seems to me to require a great deal of self-control.

  14. zuzu
    zuzu January 27, 2006 at 9:11 pm | *

    Of course, one has to wonder what menaces priests would be if they didn’t have religion.

  15. Dee
    Dee January 28, 2006 at 1:45 am |

    What I REALLY don’t understand is why it is anyone elses’s business how I live my life.

    I have finally reached menopause and boy howdy am I happy!!!

    I have NEVER wanted to have children although I like other people’s children well enough, as the saying goes.

    I started trying to get my tubes tied when I was 16 but no go because I was “too young to know what I was doing”.

    However, I kept trying. In my 20’s I heard “well we need to include your boyfriend in this discussion because he might sue us down the road if you decide you want children.” WTF???!!! My BOYFRIEND gets to decide what I do with my body?

    Then, the boyfriend sided with me and I heard “well, when you reach 35 if you haven’t had any children by then we will discuss it”.

    You guessed it…I reach 35 and said boyfriend was the husband by then. Again we hear “Well, you can’t really be sure that this is what you want. Your feelings may change. You still have time to have children.”

    I thought that maybe it was just the old male doctors giving me such a fuss so I did meet with women doctors hoping I could find someone who would treat me like I was an actual adult-type person who might actually have some insight into how I felt about motherhood. But to no avail.

    But I made it! No children and now the worry has passed!!!!!!

    Why can’t everyone just mind their own business instead of trying to force everyone else to live by their rules?

    You don’t like birth control? Don’t use it.

    You disapprove of abortion? Don’t have an abortion.

    But stay out of my life!

  16. Chet
    Chet January 28, 2006 at 9:11 am |

    Following a philosophy articulated by someone else, in preference to following one’s own heart desires, seems to me to require a great deal of self-control.

    No, it pretty much just requires fear.

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