Yet Another Derail.

The best possible kind.

We’ve been hearing a lot about safe space and its necessary dimensions over the past few days and weeks (and, in macro terms, about as long as we’ve been wondering where all of us are). The latest incarnation has centered around dehumanization and respect.

Another big issue pertaining to safe space is community vs. isolation. Being the only one in the room, that is. Feeling like the people you’re talking to have never actually spoken with anyone like you and may not ever be curious enough to really speak with anyone like you again. Feeling like a committed yet despairing emissary to the laziest, ugliest superpower on the face of the planet. Worrying that the few messages you can carry with you will be mistaken for a library and then left unread. Wondering if there’s much point in talking at all, and wondering if you shouldn’t just stick with the people who don’t need your forbearance.

Kevin Andre Elliott from Slant Truth grabbed our comfortable little discussion and opened it up to that issue, for which I am very grateful.

(And isn’t it just nifty how trackbacks make this idea of civility seem so…boring? Shallow?)

I have been guilty of maintaining that kind of space. I have been guilty of exclusion. I have been guilty of passivity. I have been guilty of racism. I have ignored a whole bunch of blogs of people of color, extremely valuable ones–if not because they were created and maintained by people of color, then because they were not handed to me. I failed to do the tiny amount of work–the thirty seconds on google that we’re always bludgeoning trolls over the head with–that would have opened up all of these spaces to me. I didn’t bother to look at the difficult and beautiful work these bloggers have been doing. And I didn’t care.

So, Kevin and everyone he mentioned, and everyone else, I’m sorry. I’ll try to do better. And thank you, thank you very much, for handing me what I was too lazy to get up and find for myself.

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10 Responses

  1. 1
    Frumious B. 3.16.2006 at 10:54 pm |

    A queer transguy accepting the criticism that his preconceived notion of what a normal person should be is white and straight. Well well.

  2. 4
    Shannon W. 3.17.2006 at 9:57 am |

    Try the radical women of color webring

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    Kevin Andre Elliott 3.17.2006 at 11:53 am |

    Thanks for addressing my concerns. I can’t speak for Nubian, but I agree with her that all too often people of color are silenced or ignored in these spaces. Hell look at the response to this post. The way Shannon was treated over at Hugo’s and then seeing her words completely misrepresented by TangoMan here is, I think, where Nubian is coming from as well. Fortunately Zuzu and Sally were quick to call him on his shit.

    I believe that racist and sexist oppresion are intertwined. It bothers me to see the oppinions and experiences of people of color so often dismissed in otherwise productive forums. Is it fear? Are people afraid of offending us? I just don’t know.

    But thank you, Piny, for doing your part to help opem up these spaces.

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    Kevin Andre Elliott 3.17.2006 at 12:29 pm |

    I just found this over at Ally Work, categorized under, of all things, “safe spaces.” It’s an open letter to the blogosphere by BlackAmazon:

    Open Letter to the blogosphere:

    We aren’t going anywhere. What you do is not okay and it will NOT go unchallenged.

    You think a dickslap will stop us? We’re here not because we were bored and found blogger as a diversion. we’re here because we believe.

    We believe after gunshots,bombings,beatings,genocide,rapes,violence, and horrors you can only begin to imagine. Sure we fear these things but we fear a world left to them even more . So we keep going .THIS IS POWER AND COURAGE. So what does that make those who stand against us

    We are the thrown out , kicked out, left out ,spat on,shat on.ignored,demonized, fetishized,and ostracized foundation your weak asses you try to stand on everyday.

    Want to know why the earth shakes and you get so frightened everytime we even speak up?

    We know you . You are not some great unsolveable mystery. You need us in our place because without us you have no idea what to do with yourselves without it . Identity forged on our silent acceptance gets very shaky as we get very loud .

    We have made the world you flail so desperately in and we will remake it as we see fit. The fact that you are not ready is niether a deterrent or a propellent.

    It is not about you. Now matter how much you try how far you regress it will NEVER.BE.ABOUT.YOU.

    It is about Justice,it is about peace and it is about love .

    They sound soft and easy but they are made of diamond and steel. They are made in fire and pressure, you do not even begin to comprehend the durability of us.

    To those who would collude with violence and hatred .

    How well as that worked ?

    Have you become an honorary yet?

    How does it feel to be a good one instead of a free one?

    They don’t respect you . They don’t care about you . They tolerate you. They see you as what you are , willing to do almost anything to be a ” not like them”. Even destroy yourself

    How does it feel to be a good one instead of a free one?

    Finally to the half ass allies and silent bystanders

    Picture us

    Mythologize us

    But never ask us , make no real oveture to include us .

    Continue to wonder why we don’t want a part of your goals.

    Then continue to wonder why your goals keep slipping.

    Ask yourselves where are we but never look. Sprikle a few in there for ” Coloring”

    Tell us how you’ll save us while we continue to save ourselves when you retreat to privelege.

    Make sure the battles of privilege are the most important ones you fight.

    Wonder why we stop listening when you talk about high theories when even here we fight for existance.

    Use your megaphones to degrade and destroy us lightly cavalierly and with no thought and with silence and ignorance.

    All of you

    Worry about us . For the first time in your lives worry about us. Worry about what’s happening. Fight it with every breathe you breathe,wonder. This uncertaintity you now experience we have lived with all our lives.

    We may greet you with love but understand we are fighting for our lives and understand WE WILL NOT LOSE!

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    Kyra 3.17.2006 at 2:25 pm |

    I have ignored a whole bunch of blogs of people of color, extremely valuable ones–if not because they were created and maintained by people of color, then because they were not handed to me.

    What is it you mean by “handed to me?” Made for you? For your issues? Or something else?

    I had/have trouble with going to blogs that make race their main issue—I feel sort of like it’s their space and I don’t belong. Like I’d be interfering if I don’t avoid them. Like a troll, somehow. The same way that I know where the GLBT center is at my school, but feel as if I should be positive I’m bisexual before I go there and use their resources, or that I shouldn’t go at all because I don’t have problems with self-acceptance. Can somebody explain to me the protocol of interacting with blogs, movements, and so forth, where I am not . . . affected by the oppressions they’re dealing with?

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    Kevin Andre Elliott 3.18.2006 at 1:26 am |

    I had/have trouble with going to blogs that make race their main issue—I feel sort of like it’s their space and I don’t belong. Like I’d be interfering if I don’t avoid them. Like a troll, somehow. The same way that I know where the GLBT center is at my school, but feel as if I should be positive I’m bisexual before I go there and use their resources, or that I shouldn’t go at all because I don’t have problems with self-acceptance. Can somebody explain to me the protocol of interacting with blogs, movements, and so forth, where I am not . . . affected by the oppressions they’re dealing with?

    Kyra, I can’t speak for every blog that deals in issues of race, but I will say that you are always free to come to my space and speak your opinion. I will also say that I think that’s the case for most of the blogs concerned with race that I visit on a regular basis. And really? Isn’t this what is needed. Yeah, you might find yourself called on some shit, but isn’t that really what educating ourselves is all about. I too can be racist, sexist, homophobic, and it finally occured to me that the only way to work against those ugly parts of me is to try to engage in spaces like this, to try to get more people to actually talk about these issues, and to call each other on this shit.

    Can somebody explain to me the protocol of interacting with blogs, movements, and so forth, where I am not . . . affected by the oppressions they’re dealing with?

    I think you are looking at this the wrong way. If oppression is happening, WE ARE ALL AFFECTED. We are (or should be) in this fight together. Just interact. Don’t be afraid. Seriously, we aren’t as vindictive as some might make us out to be. And just because you’ve been called on your shit does not mean that you are no longer welcome in the conversation.

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