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	<description>In defense of the sanctimonious women&#039;s studies set.</description>
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		<title>By: Kaethe</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/04/27/sigh-3/#comment-43373</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaethe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 01:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t automatically blame the press for this one.  I understand your ire, but legal terms are not standard.  The FBI continues to restrict the use of &quot;rape&quot; to an assault on a woman&#039;s vagina, excluding men and minors from the definition, of which this victim was both.  Some codes use &quot;sodomy&quot; specifically for an anal assault, regardless of the victim&#039;s sex.  

One reason it&#039;s hard to know how many rapes are reported is just trying to figure out what gets reported as rape.

And isn&#039;t that girl just horrible?  How could she not have bravely stood up to those vicious, agressive, deranged, murderous  rapists?  What was she, chicken?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t automatically blame the press for this one.  I understand your ire, but legal terms are not standard.  The FBI continues to restrict the use of &#8220;rape&#8221; to an assault on a woman&#8217;s vagina, excluding men and minors from the definition, of which this victim was both.  Some codes use &#8220;sodomy&#8221; specifically for an anal assault, regardless of the victim&#8217;s sex.  </p>
<p>One reason it&#8217;s hard to know how many rapes are reported is just trying to figure out what gets reported as rape.</p>
<p>And isn&#8217;t that girl just horrible?  How could she not have bravely stood up to those vicious, agressive, deranged, murderous  rapists?  What was she, chicken?</p>
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		<title>By: zuzu</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/04/27/sigh-3/#comment-43370</link>
		<dc:creator>zuzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 01:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So while in all of our eyes what this young man went through was a brutal rape, the law of the county in Texas where it occured is likely different. And unless the AP journalist wants to be sued by the attacker’s family and shunned by the police department for false reporting, the journalist has to use the legal terms employed for that county.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Like Joni said, the charge was aggravated sexual assault, so it would have been perfectly accurate to say that the victim had been &quot;sexually assaulted.&quot;  As with the Duke case, the media has been using &quot;rape&quot; even though one of the actual charges is &quot;sexual offense&quot; because &quot;rape&quot; is for penile-vaginal forced sex and &quot;sexual offense&quot; is for forced penetration with an object.  

I think one of the media biases is that when a man is sexually assaulted, it&#039;s almost always with anal penetration, so &quot;sodomy&quot; comes to mind.  Whereas, when a woman is assaulted, regardless of whether the penetration was vaginal, anal or oral, and whether it was a penis or other object, it&#039;s easier for members of the press to conceptualize it as &quot;sexual assault&quot; or &quot;rape.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So while in all of our eyes what this young man went through was a brutal rape, the law of the county in Texas where it occured is likely different. And unless the AP journalist wants to be sued by the attacker’s family and shunned by the police department for false reporting, the journalist has to use the legal terms employed for that county.</p></blockquote>
<p>Like Joni said, the charge was aggravated sexual assault, so it would have been perfectly accurate to say that the victim had been &#8220;sexually assaulted.&#8221;  As with the Duke case, the media has been using &#8220;rape&#8221; even though one of the actual charges is &#8220;sexual offense&#8221; because &#8220;rape&#8221; is for penile-vaginal forced sex and &#8220;sexual offense&#8221; is for forced penetration with an object.  </p>
<p>I think one of the media biases is that when a man is sexually assaulted, it&#8217;s almost always with anal penetration, so &#8220;sodomy&#8221; comes to mind.  Whereas, when a woman is assaulted, regardless of whether the penetration was vaginal, anal or oral, and whether it was a penis or other object, it&#8217;s easier for members of the press to conceptualize it as &#8220;sexual assault&#8221; or &#8220;rape.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: joni</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/04/27/sigh-3/#comment-43343</link>
		<dc:creator>joni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 23:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi from Texas. Things are still pretty bass-ackwards here, but according to our penal code, &quot;sexual assault&quot; is the term used to refer to any forced sexual act, rather than rape or sodomy. So I believe the use of the term &quot;sodomize&quot; does reflect the reporter&#039;s bias. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi from Texas. Things are still pretty bass-ackwards here, but according to our penal code, &#8220;sexual assault&#8221; is the term used to refer to any forced sexual act, rather than rape or sodomy. So I believe the use of the term &#8220;sodomize&#8221; does reflect the reporter&#8217;s bias.</p>
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		<title>By: Cinnamon</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/04/27/sigh-3/#comment-43331</link>
		<dc:creator>Cinnamon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 23:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have taken the class in 1996. And I don&#039;t remember the county the law was taken from but it was somewhere in Ohio, although not the county the school was in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have taken the class in 1996. And I don&#8217;t remember the county the law was taken from but it was somewhere in Ohio, although not the county the school was in.</p>
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		<title>By: Lis Riba</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/04/27/sigh-3/#comment-43273</link>
		<dc:creator>Lis Riba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 20:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cinnamon, how long ago was that?
This decade, or older?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cinnamon, how long ago was that?<br />
This decade, or older?</p>
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		<title>By: Cinnamon</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/04/27/sigh-3/#comment-43271</link>
		<dc:creator>Cinnamon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 20:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My journalism training is very rusty, but I remember taking a very long quiz in a journalism law class about rape, sexual assault, etc. and the variety of terms that could be used in stories. We were given a copy of a county&#039;s legal definition for each of the terms, given an &quot;interview&quot; with the victim and had to answer questions as to what each action taken against the victim could be called. It was quite convoluted and hard to understand and the end answer was that it wasn&#039;t &quot;rape&quot;, even though it was &quot;rape&quot; in the eyes of everyone taking the test. Why? Because that county&#039;s definition said it would be rape only if the victim were tied up in some way. 

So while in all of our eyes what this young man went through was a brutal rape, the law of the county in Texas where it occured is likely different. And unless the AP journalist wants to be sued by the attacker&#039;s family and shunned by the police department for false reporting, the journalist has to use the legal terms employed for that county.

Standardization of these terms, and definitions of these terms in stories would be very beneficial to the reading public, but editors don&#039;t want to waste space with things like that since space = money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My journalism training is very rusty, but I remember taking a very long quiz in a journalism law class about rape, sexual assault, etc. and the variety of terms that could be used in stories. We were given a copy of a county&#8217;s legal definition for each of the terms, given an &#8220;interview&#8221; with the victim and had to answer questions as to what each action taken against the victim could be called. It was quite convoluted and hard to understand and the end answer was that it wasn&#8217;t &#8220;rape&#8221;, even though it was &#8220;rape&#8221; in the eyes of everyone taking the test. Why? Because that county&#8217;s definition said it would be rape only if the victim were tied up in some way. </p>
<p>So while in all of our eyes what this young man went through was a brutal rape, the law of the county in Texas where it occured is likely different. And unless the AP journalist wants to be sued by the attacker&#8217;s family and shunned by the police department for false reporting, the journalist has to use the legal terms employed for that county.</p>
<p>Standardization of these terms, and definitions of these terms in stories would be very beneficial to the reading public, but editors don&#8217;t want to waste space with things like that since space = money.</p>
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		<title>By: zuzu</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/04/27/sigh-3/#comment-43248</link>
		<dc:creator>zuzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 18:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Freeman, aren&#039;t you the same guy who&#039;s been getting &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/25/fizzy-blankity-blanc-in-a-can/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;smacked around&lt;/a&gt; at &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/27/can-a-liberal-white-dude-be-a-feminist/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I Blame The Patriarchy&lt;/a&gt; over your insistence that you&#039;re the real feminist?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Freeman, aren&#8217;t you the same guy who&#8217;s been getting <a href="http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/25/fizzy-blankity-blanc-in-a-can/" rel="nofollow">smacked around</a> at <a href="http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/04/27/can-a-liberal-white-dude-be-a-feminist/" rel="nofollow">I Blame The Patriarchy</a> over your insistence that you&#8217;re the real feminist?</p>
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		<title>By: sly civilian</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/04/27/sigh-3/#comment-43227</link>
		<dc:creator>sly civilian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 16:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i wonder if sodomize is used because it refers to the former &quot;crime&quot; that automatically has no victim, only perpetrators.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wonder if sodomize is used because it refers to the former &#8220;crime&#8221; that automatically has no victim, only perpetrators.</p>
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		<title>By: neal</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/04/27/sigh-3/#comment-43214</link>
		<dc:creator>neal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 15:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>focusing on arriving at a proper word/definition of the crime (raped vs. sodomized) essentially takes attention away from the sheer tragedy of this story. i agree that the term &quot;rape&quot; should have been used. but really, in the scope of things, the AP&#039;s choice of wording is NOT and should not be the main issue here. exploring this aspect also draws attention away from the glaring racial element of this case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>focusing on arriving at a proper word/definition of the crime (raped vs. sodomized) essentially takes attention away from the sheer tragedy of this story. i agree that the term &#8220;rape&#8221; should have been used. but really, in the scope of things, the AP&#8217;s choice of wording is NOT and should not be the main issue here. exploring this aspect also draws attention away from the glaring racial element of this case.</p>
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		<title>By: johnieB</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/04/27/sigh-3/#comment-43212</link>
		<dc:creator>johnieB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 15:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Getting here late.  In the follow-up to the Scottsboro case, one of the women, Ruby Bates, later recanted &amp; spoke out on behalf of the defendants&#039; innocence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting here late.  In the follow-up to the Scottsboro case, one of the women, Ruby Bates, later recanted &amp; spoke out on behalf of the defendants&#8217; innocence.</p>
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