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    Magis 5.16.2006 at 11:23 am |

    What about the Posse Comitatus Act which, generally, prohibits the use of the Armed Forces for police work? Won’t this require an act of Congress? Or is this just another inconvenient statue to be ignored at will by King George

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    TLB 5.16.2006 at 11:39 am |

    Every last one of the 9/11 hijackers got here legally

    So? The 9/11 hijackers took advantage of weaknesses in our system. If we tighten up legal entry, they’ll take advantage of illegal entry.

    It’s extremely irresponsible to think you can leave the borders porous because one group of terrorists came in (semi-) legally.

    The “semi” is there because they got two VA DLs using the illegal immigration network and they got one CA DL using an access code designed for use by illegal aliens.

    And, there was a recent suspected terrorist who was caught trying to smuggle himself in in a shipping container.

    If there’s a connection between “Hispanic” and “illegal alien” in America’s mind, the left should look to its continual attempts to blur the line between legal and illegal immigration and related attempts.

    In fact, you blur the line yourself, making it sound like every “Hispanic” is in favor of illegal crossers.

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    Erika 5.16.2006 at 11:59 am |

    That quotation pisses me off for so many different reasons. One thing that really jumps out at me is that the Nazis’ war on Jews started as soon as they seized control of the government. It took them several years to get around to implementing the Final Solution, but the groundwork was laid. It did not take less than four years.

    The stupidest assumption is that all the Jews killed in the Holocaust were German. The overwhelming majority were from Eastern Europe.

    In addition, many of them were not “deported.” The Nazis built concentration camps in the countries they invaded and many Jews died before they even saw a concentration camp (from starvation in the ghettos, in massacres, etc.).

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    Magis 5.16.2006 at 12:01 pm |

    zuzu:

    There are indeed exceptions (insurrection, etc.) but I don’t think this is one of them, not without the permission of Congress. To wit:

    10 U.S.C. (United States Code) 375

    Sec. 375. Restriction on direct participation by military personnel:

    The Secretary of Defense shall prescribe such regulations as may be necessary to ensure that any activity (including the provision of any equipment or facility or the assignment or detail of any personnel) under this chapter does not include or permit direct participation by a member of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps in a search, seizure, arrest, or other similar activity unless participation in such activity by such member is otherwise authorized by law.

    (emphasis mine)

    So, I think this is another case of BushCo ignoring the law. The interesting thing is that Posse Commitatus is a BIG DEAL with the rightists, like the militia dudes. I think maybe Rove is too busy hiring an attorney to give the Chimperor good political advice on this one.

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    Marksman2000 5.16.2006 at 2:14 pm |

    What about the Posse Comitatus Act which, generally, prohibits the use of the Armed Forces for police work? Won’t this require an act of Congress? Or is this just another inconvenient statue to be ignored at will by King George

    I suppose this time because he’s using the military against people who aren’t U.S. citizens, it might be considered legitimate. One thing you can count on: Republican Presidents (or any President, for that matter) never let dust settle on the Armed Forces while they’re in office.

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    Gordon K 5.16.2006 at 2:50 pm |

    What about the Posse Comitatus Act which, generally, prohibits the use of the Armed Forces for police work? Won’t this require an act of Congress? Or is this just another inconvenient statue to be ignored at will by King George

    National Guard can be used by the state governors in certain situations. And they’re (officially, anyway) only supposed to be used as advisors and trainers, right? I think that is legally acceptable.

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    Beylita 5.16.2006 at 6:21 pm |

    La Migra has had a military mindset for years. They tried to recruit me in the late nineties, as I was undereducated and in need of cash. The recruiter even called them America’s “secret army” and that even the desk workers serve at least one tour in the southwest.

    This was prior to Dept of Homeland Security, but nothing I’ve seen has convinced me that border patrol is anything but the military fetishists who can’t handle the real thing, and the desperate youths who would have enlisted if not for horror stories about Nam and about Gulf War Syndrome.

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    Rad Geek 5.17.2006 at 6:29 pm |

    So, last night George Bush announced plans to have the National Guard “support” the Border Patrol until an additional 6,000 Border Patrol agents can be hired. …. this is a bad idea for a number of reasons.

    It’s a bad idea because the government has no right to shoot or restrain peaceful people just because they are trying to find a place to live in the United States. Ramping up the number of people working on making that a reality just means ramping up violence against innocent people.

    There are lots of reasons why the means that Bush is proposing are unlikely to achieve his professed ends. But since the ends are themselves fundamentally immoral, the strategic and tactical mistakes he’s making in trying to pursue them are of secondary importance at most.

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    Raging Moderate 5.18.2006 at 10:07 am |

    It’s a bad idea because the government has no right to shoot or restrain peaceful people just because they are trying to find a place to live in the United States.

    I don’t think that’s true. Can’t the border patrol arrest and restrain people crossing the border illegally?

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    Rad Geek 5.19.2006 at 1:03 am |

    I don’t think that’s true. Can’t the border patrol arrest and restrain people crossing the border illegally?

    That depends on what you mean by “can.”
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    They certainly have the power to do so. But they haven’t got any legitimate right to. Neither they nor anyone else has the right to harass or forcibly restrain peaceful people, who are, after all, simply trying to move into a new town to find work, and aren’t interfering with anyone else’s rights to person or property. Moving should not be treated as a crime.

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