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	<description>In defense of the sanctimonious women&#039;s studies set.</description>
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		<title>By: Medicine Man</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/06/16/fanwank-for-a-good-cause/#comment-50013</link>
		<dc:creator>Medicine Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You don’t think Buffy was a feminist show? I think it was far more feminist than Firefly, even if it had it’s moments of extreme misogyny.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Actually, I do think Buffy was a pretty good show for portraying female characters as something other than just damsels or objects. As I understand it, that was part of Josh&#039;s purpose when creating the character.

On face value though, it just isn&#039;t obvious - I find it a bit ironic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You don’t think Buffy was a feminist show? I think it was far more feminist than Firefly, even if it had it’s moments of extreme misogyny.</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, I do think Buffy was a pretty good show for portraying female characters as something other than just damsels or objects. As I understand it, that was part of Josh&#8217;s purpose when creating the character.</p>
<p>On face value though, it just isn&#8217;t obvious &#8211; I find it a bit ironic.</p>
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		<title>By: Lis Riba</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/06/16/fanwank-for-a-good-cause/#comment-49872</link>
		<dc:creator>Lis Riba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, &lt;em&gt;him&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, <em>him</em></p>
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		<title>By: Rex Little</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/06/16/fanwank-for-a-good-cause/#comment-49868</link>
		<dc:creator>Rex Little</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lis, Derbyshire has drawn flak (enough to shoot down the RAF and the Luftwaffe combined, I&#039;d say) from feminists for the following (I can&#039;t find a direct link):
&lt;blockquote&gt;It is, in fact, a sad truth about human life that beyond our salad days, very few of us are interesting to look at in the buff. Added to that sadness is the very unfair truth that a woman&#039;s salad days are shorter than a man&#039;s — really, in this precise context, only from about 15 to 20. The Nautilus and the treadmill can add a half decade or so, but by 36 the bloom is definitely off the rose. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
That&#039;s why I referred to him as a &quot;feminist flame magnet.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lis, Derbyshire has drawn flak (enough to shoot down the RAF and the Luftwaffe combined, I&#8217;d say) from feminists for the following (I can&#8217;t find a direct link):</p>
<blockquote><p>It is, in fact, a sad truth about human life that beyond our salad days, very few of us are interesting to look at in the buff. Added to that sadness is the very unfair truth that a woman&#8217;s salad days are shorter than a man&#8217;s — really, in this precise context, only from about 15 to 20. The Nautilus and the treadmill can add a half decade or so, but by 36 the bloom is definitely off the rose. </p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s why I referred to him as a &#8220;feminist flame magnet.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: TheGlimmering</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/06/16/fanwank-for-a-good-cause/#comment-49860</link>
		<dc:creator>TheGlimmering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just finished firing off an email to the presidents of Rutgers University&#039;s women&#039;s organizations and the Rutgers Film Co-Op about this, if anyone happens to live in New Jersey.  I&#039;m hoping they&#039;ll get behind this since I&#039;m certain the local theaters wouldn&#039;t sacrifice one penny of Friday night profit for a good cause (although I&#039;m tempted to contact a local one screen theater house with a cafe, you never know), and the Film Co-Op has spaces suitable for screening.  If you&#039;re local and you know anything about the Film Co-Op, could you drop them some encouragement to pick this up?  I&#039;d gladly sacrifice a Friday night for a good cause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just finished firing off an email to the presidents of Rutgers University&#8217;s women&#8217;s organizations and the Rutgers Film Co-Op about this, if anyone happens to live in New Jersey.  I&#8217;m hoping they&#8217;ll get behind this since I&#8217;m certain the local theaters wouldn&#8217;t sacrifice one penny of Friday night profit for a good cause (although I&#8217;m tempted to contact a local one screen theater house with a cafe, you never know), and the Film Co-Op has spaces suitable for screening.  If you&#8217;re local and you know anything about the Film Co-Op, could you drop them some encouragement to pick this up?  I&#8217;d gladly sacrifice a Friday night for a good cause.</p>
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		<title>By: Lis Riba</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/06/16/fanwank-for-a-good-cause/#comment-49852</link>
		<dc:creator>Lis Riba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 14:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know much about Derbyshire, but I did like this section in his &lt;a href=&quot;http://olimu.com/WebJournalism/Texts/Reviews/Party%20of%20Death.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;scathing review of &lt;i&gt;Party of Death&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;We likewise feel that an adult woman&#039;s life, even a few months of it, is worth more than that of a hardly-formed fetus; and that the vigorous, usefully-employed, merrily procreating Michael Schiavo has a life, a &lt;i&gt;life&lt;/i&gt;, more worthy of the name than had the incurably insensate relict of his spouse. Those like Ponnuru who think differently are working against the grain of human nature, against our feelings -- yes, our feelings -- about what life &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt;. The life of a newly-formed embryo, or of a brain-damaged patient who has shown no trace of consciousness for fifteen years, is worth just as much as the life of a healthy adult, Ponnuru insists. Well, most of us instinctively but emphatically disagree, and no amount of argumentative ingenuity is likely to change our minds. Hearts, whatever.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Ain&#039;t that excellent phrasing/framing of our side of the issue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know much about Derbyshire, but I did like this section in his <a href="http://olimu.com/WebJournalism/Texts/Reviews/Party%20of%20Death.htm" rel="nofollow">scathing review of <i>Party of Death</i></a>:<br />
<blockquote>We likewise feel that an adult woman&#8217;s life, even a few months of it, is worth more than that of a hardly-formed fetus; and that the vigorous, usefully-employed, merrily procreating Michael Schiavo has a life, a <i>life</i>, more worthy of the name than had the incurably insensate relict of his spouse. Those like Ponnuru who think differently are working against the grain of human nature, against our feelings &#8212; yes, our feelings &#8212; about what life <i>is</i>. The life of a newly-formed embryo, or of a brain-damaged patient who has shown no trace of consciousness for fifteen years, is worth just as much as the life of a healthy adult, Ponnuru insists. Well, most of us instinctively but emphatically disagree, and no amount of argumentative ingenuity is likely to change our minds. Hearts, whatever.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ain&#8217;t that excellent phrasing/framing of our side of the issue?</p>
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		<title>By: Maia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jun 2006 03:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Doubly amusing that the creator of Firefly, and contributor to feminist causes, is also the creator of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

You don&#039;t think Buffy was a feminist show? I think it was far more feminist than Firefly, even if it had it&#039;s moments of extreme misogyny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Doubly amusing that the creator of Firefly, and contributor to feminist causes, is also the creator of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. </p></blockquote>
<p>You don&#8217;t think Buffy was a feminist show? I think it was far more feminist than Firefly, even if it had it&#8217;s moments of extreme misogyny.</p>
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		<title>By: Rex Little</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rex Little</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2006 23:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps the moderator can remove or edit my gaffe.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the moderator can remove or edit my gaffe.</p>
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		<title>By: Rex Little</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/06/16/fanwank-for-a-good-cause/#comment-49677</link>
		<dc:creator>Rex Little</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2006 23:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry about that.  The movie&#039;s been out long enough that I guess I figured that anyone who wanted to see it already had.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about that.  The movie&#8217;s been out long enough that I guess I figured that anyone who wanted to see it already had.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2006 23:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, Rex - you just gave away the ending.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, Rex &#8211; you just gave away the ending.</p>
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		<title>By: Rex Little</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rex Little</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2006 23:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, the one Derb drools over in print is Inara, not River.  In fact, he said that if they had to kill someone off in the movie, he would rather it have been River than Wash.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the one Derb drools over in print is Inara, not River.  In fact, he said that if they had to kill someone off in the movie, he would rather it have been River than Wash.</p>
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