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	<description>In defense of the sanctimonious women&#039;s studies set.</description>
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		<title>By: Esme</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/06/27/blame-the-new-york-times/#comment-51524</link>
		<dc:creator>Esme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 21:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.workingforchange.com/comic.cfm?itemid=20803&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
I think this cartoon pretty much encapsulates Bush&#039;s privacy policies. And war justifications.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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I think this cartoon pretty much encapsulates Bush&#8217;s privacy policies. And war justifications.</a></p>
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		<title>By: zuzu</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/06/27/blame-the-new-york-times/#comment-51479</link>
		<dc:creator>zuzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wrong.  The funds transfers were those that went through a banking collective in Belgium, but they &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/23/washington/23intel.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;included transfers by individuals&lt;/a&gt;.  And there were no warrants obtained; they just started monitoring &quot;suspicious&quot; individuals and groups without any specific evidence of terrorist activity.  

Or at least that&#039;s what they&#039;re saying at this point.  They claimed that they weren&#039;t wiretapping American citizens, or collecting information on calls made within the United States, but -- whoops -- they were.  I expect that we don&#039;t yet know the full extent of this program, and that further investigation will reveal that it&#039;s broader and deeper than is now known.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrong.  The funds transfers were those that went through a banking collective in Belgium, but they <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/23/washington/23intel.html" rel="nofollow">included transfers by individuals</a>.  And there were no warrants obtained; they just started monitoring &#8220;suspicious&#8221; individuals and groups without any specific evidence of terrorist activity.  </p>
<p>Or at least that&#8217;s what they&#8217;re saying at this point.  They claimed that they weren&#8217;t wiretapping American citizens, or collecting information on calls made within the United States, but &#8212; whoops &#8212; they were.  I expect that we don&#8217;t yet know the full extent of this program, and that further investigation will reveal that it&#8217;s broader and deeper than is now known.</p>
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		<title>By: CoRev</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/06/27/blame-the-new-york-times/#comment-51475</link>
		<dc:creator>CoRev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zuzu,  when you say: ...YOUR rights, idiot, and mine, and everyone else whose bank records have been trawled through on some snipe hunt for terrorists.&quot;  Calling me names is cheap; however, you are wrong.  The funds xfers tracked were institutional not individual.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zuzu,  when you say: &#8230;YOUR rights, idiot, and mine, and everyone else whose bank records have been trawled through on some snipe hunt for terrorists.&#8221;  Calling me names is cheap; however, you are wrong.  The funds xfers tracked were institutional not individual.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth Gordon</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/06/27/blame-the-new-york-times/#comment-51470</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn&#039;t any terrorists with two brain cells to rub together &lt;em&gt;assume&lt;/em&gt; that the Feds would be monitoring their international bank transfers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t any terrorists with two brain cells to rub together <em>assume</em> that the Feds would be monitoring their international bank transfers?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Welch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Welch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anyone wants to give lip directly to Baquet &amp; the Times, or to others who want to, we&#039;re soliciting feedback &lt;a href=&quot;http://opinion.latimes.com/opinionla/2006/06/we_explain_you_.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. (If that link doesn&#039;t work, it&#039;s at: http://opinion.latimes.com/opinionla/2006/06/we_explain_you_.html.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone wants to give lip directly to Baquet &amp; the Times, or to others who want to, we&#8217;re soliciting feedback <a href="http://opinion.latimes.com/opinionla/2006/06/we_explain_you_.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>. (If that link doesn&#8217;t work, it&#8217;s at: <a href="http://opinion.latimes.com/opinionla/2006/06/we_explain_you_.html" rel="nofollow">http://opinion.latimes.com/opinionla/2006/06/we_explain_you_.html</a>.)</p>
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		<title>By: Kyra</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/06/27/blame-the-new-york-times/#comment-51460</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think her daddy might have been in danger three wars ago, but I doubt any later than that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think her daddy might have been in danger three wars ago, but I doubt any later than that.</p>
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		<title>By: zuzu</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/06/27/blame-the-new-york-times/#comment-51433</link>
		<dc:creator>zuzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 14:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A little shirty today, are we?

CoRev, not that arguing with you is going to make a damn bit of difference, but &quot;Whose rights?&quot; -- well, YOUR rights, idiot, and mine, and everyone else whose bank records have been trawled through on some snipe hunt for terrorists.  

This is another one of those &quot;vast database&quot; programs where the personal information of ordinary Americans was collected as a matter of course and justified by counterterrorism.  Yet this kind of database is simply too much information -- the CIA already has too much data to process and translate.  It&#039;s a waste of resources to maintain this kind of database unless your purpose is something other than fighting terror.  

There are provisions in the law for obtaining warrants for this stuff, but the Bush people think they&#039;re above the law. Time and time again. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little shirty today, are we?</p>
<p>CoRev, not that arguing with you is going to make a damn bit of difference, but &#8220;Whose rights?&#8221; &#8212; well, YOUR rights, idiot, and mine, and everyone else whose bank records have been trawled through on some snipe hunt for terrorists.  </p>
<p>This is another one of those &#8220;vast database&#8221; programs where the personal information of ordinary Americans was collected as a matter of course and justified by counterterrorism.  Yet this kind of database is simply too much information &#8212; the CIA already has too much data to process and translate.  It&#8217;s a waste of resources to maintain this kind of database unless your purpose is something other than fighting terror.  </p>
<p>There are provisions in the law for obtaining warrants for this stuff, but the Bush people think they&#8217;re above the law. Time and time again.</p>
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		<title>By: norbizness</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/06/27/blame-the-new-york-times/#comment-51427</link>
		<dc:creator>norbizness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 14:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You meant &quot;shirt up&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You meant &#8220;shirt up&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Feministe &#187; Blame the New York Times</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/06/27/blame-the-new-york-times/#comment-51424</link>
		<dc:creator>Feministe &#187; Blame the New York Times</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] mes has a good response to the whole ordeal, and it&#8217;s definitely worth a read.  	And as Norbizness points out in the comments, it&#8217;s not [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] mes has a good response to the whole ordeal, and it&#8217;s definitely worth a read.  	And as Norbizness points out in the comments, it&#8217;s not [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And with typos like mine, I can see why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And with typos like mine, I can see why.</p>
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