Comments on: No Vaccines For Me, Thanks, I’ve Got Jesus As My Co-Pilot

By: frumiousb

frumiousb — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:39:50 +0000

so nik, why did they only test women 9-26 for effectiveness? hmm? that’s only the proximal reason, not the ultimate reason. the ultimate reason is that as a prophylactic vaccine, only young women are targeted. older women probably already have the virus. of course, this reasoning ignores women over 26 who either have never been sexually active or who have consistantly practiced safe sex.

By: hexy

hexy — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 05:17:00 +0000

I have to wonder, a Parent takes a child to get vaccinated against a whole host of maladies like small pox and TB. Now the HPV vaccine gets thrown into the mix. In order for this “message sending” effect to take place the parent would have to tell the child that one of the vaccines is to prevent a know consequence of sexual intercourse. How does that conversation go exactly?

Little girl: Mommy why to I have to get these shots?

Parent: Well, to protect you from you from getting diseases.

LG: Like what kind of diseases?

P: Well a lot of different kinds but one in particular is one that prevents you from getting sick after having sex with an infected boy.

LG: Mommy what is sex?

Rick, they don’t think that the kidlets will figure it out for themselves, they think we eeeeevil liberals will actually say to our kids “There! Now you’re protected! Run off and have all that casual and illicit sex that we’re such proponents of, and get yourself a few abortions, which we’re also big fans of! And once we’ve developed a vaccinne for HIV, you can all be gay too!”

Seriously. Check out any of the hardcore fundie message boards. They believe this is what we encourage our kids to think.

By: Raincitygirl

Raincitygirl — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 01:18:36 +0000

Nik, one of the major reasons some public health organizations (and some bloggers) want the HPV vaccine to be mandatory is because mandatory vaccines have to be covered by private insurers. If it’s an opt-in vaccination you have to request your child get, the insurer will likely make the parents pay the full amount. If it’s an opt-out vaccination where the child gets it unless the parent says no (like the various other childhood vaccines out there, all of which parents can choose to not let their children get), then it’s covered.

By: StripGoddess

StripGoddess — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 20:37:02 +0000

They don’t just want to punish women for having sex (or sharing a towel, or living in a dorm), they want to punish women for being women.

That is it in a nutshell.

By: Natalia

Natalia — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 19:22:48 +0000

This is like the Dark Ages, you know, when clerics used to persecute midwives for helping alleviate women’s suffering during childbirth, because women ought to be “paying for the sins of Eve” through their pain.

They don’t just want to punish women for having sex (or sharing a towel, or living in a dorm), they want to punish women for being women.

By: Sierra

Sierra — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 18:50:01 +0000

I’m burned that the HPV vaccine is only for women 9-26 – b/c women who are older probably already have it b/c they are sluts. Yep, that’s the argument.

Don’t 80% of women have HPV by age 50? Pointing out that “women who are older probably have it” isn’t calling them sluts; it’s describing reality.

And the whole not approved for older women thing.

By: PHLAF

PHLAF — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 18:45:50 +0000

Yes, the “pro-lifers” show up at the Race For The Cure races and promote the scientifically refuted crap about abortions causing breast cancer. Can you imagine? I mean, here are these women, some still in the process of fighting their cancer, others who have battled it, and still others who have lost mothers, daughters, sisters, wives, etc. to it, and they’re basically met by these creeps with the message that they probably caused their own breast cancer by having an abortion. Nice, huh? And if anyone dares to tell them their presence and tactics are inappropriate, they claim they’re being harrassed by the pro-choicers.

By: nik

nik — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 18:18:34 +0000

Can I find a quote where they flat-out say, “No one should ever have this vaccine”? No. But I can find a few where they say, for example, that “this vaccine will be marketed to a segment of the population that should be getting a message about abstinence. It sends the wrong message”…

Hey, I didn’t say they weren’t stupid, just that they weren’t stupid enough to say no one should ever have the vaccine.

By: nik

nik — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 18:14:26 +0000

I’m burned that the HPV vaccine is only for women 9-26 – b/c women who are older probably already have it b/c they are sluts. Yep, that’s the argument.

http://www.cdc.gov/std/HPV/STDFact-HPV-vaccine.htm#ninetotwentysix

The vaccine’s only for women 9-26 because that’s the only age group they’ve tested for safety and effectiveness.

By: Kyra

Kyra — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 16:26:35 +0000

But we already knew how gleeful and happy the religious nutters are when women they don’t like get cancer. Ever do a Race For The Cure and see the “pro-life” people protesting and hurling insults at women who, OMIGOD, are supporting a cure for breast cancer – most of whom have HAD breast cancer or are related to someone who has, too?

They do this?