Comments on: My, What a Prophetic Headline http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/07/27/my-what-a-prophetic-headline/ In defense of the sanctimonious women's studies set. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:24:43 +0000 hourly 1 By: zuzu http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/07/27/my-what-a-prophetic-headline/#comment-57138 zuzu Sun, 30 Jul 2006 18:21:06 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/07/27/my-what-a-prophetic-headline/#comment-57138 Well, it could just be a cost differential (NYC rents being so much more expensive than those of Southern office parks), plus the fact that corporations based in NYC aren't exactly hurting for a talent pool. If they had more trouble attracting workers, they might be a little more generous with benefits. Well, it could just be a cost differential (NYC rents being so much more expensive than those of Southern office parks), plus the fact that corporations based in NYC aren’t exactly hurting for a talent pool. If they had more trouble attracting workers, they might be a little more generous with benefits.

]]> By: Marian http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/07/27/my-what-a-prophetic-headline/#comment-57137 Marian Sun, 30 Jul 2006 17:16:17 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/07/27/my-what-a-prophetic-headline/#comment-57137 Coming a bit late to this thread, but one thing I'd like to know (and maybe see y'all blog about) is why New York City is one of the most progressive cities but also the least family-friendly. My husband and I both work for companies based out of the south. In the southern (read: red state) locations, there are nursing rooms and onsite daycare. At the New York location, you are on your own with daycare and we just 'don't do that' as far as bringing babies to work and needing to nurse. The southern locations also grant 6-8 weeks "childcare" leave (separate from maternity or disability). I get a whopping 10 days. People in NYC who have to work have little choice except to either pump or switch to formula after 12 weeks, and it really puts NY to shame. The redstate offices, located in a culture that doesn't even support women working as much as here, accommodate families, while NYC says "We only want corporate drones, and if you want a family, that's your problem." Is it any surprise women don't nurse long out here? Coming a bit late to this thread, but one thing I’d like to know (and maybe see y’all blog about) is why New York City is one of the most progressive cities but also the least family-friendly. My husband and I both work for companies based out of the south. In the southern (read: red state) locations, there are nursing rooms and onsite daycare. At the New York location, you are on your own with daycare and we just ‘don’t do that’ as far as bringing babies to work and needing to nurse.

The southern locations also grant 6-8 weeks “childcare” leave (separate from maternity or disability). I get a whopping 10 days.

People in NYC who have to work have little choice except to either pump or switch to formula after 12 weeks, and it really puts NY to shame. The redstate offices, located in a culture that doesn’t even support women working as much as here, accommodate families, while NYC says “We only want corporate drones, and if you want a family, that’s your problem.” Is it any surprise women don’t nurse long out here?

]]> By: philosophizer http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/07/27/my-what-a-prophetic-headline/#comment-56958 philosophizer Sat, 29 Jul 2006 01:10:49 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/07/27/my-what-a-prophetic-headline/#comment-56958 I'm terrified of children, and, as such, may not have any, but if so, I would totally miss not getting to breast feed, because seriously, is that not just the coolest idea ever? You *make food* from your own body for the baby! How is that not awesome? So when I see moms feeding babies, that's what I think of. My partner and I were in a restaurant where a big family was gathered, and one of the moms was feeding her baby, and I asked him what he thought, and his response was, 'well everyone else is eating, why should the baby have to wait? by the way, check out the neat baby-sling that lady has! totally hands-free!' but that's because he's just neat. and all about the decorative baby-holders. besides, I thought the areola and nipple were the 'dirty parts' of a breast. Baby's covering those, so what's the big deal? I’m terrified of children, and, as such, may not have any, but if so, I would totally miss not getting to breast feed, because seriously, is that not just the coolest idea ever? You *make food* from your own body for the baby! How is that not awesome?

So when I see moms feeding babies, that’s what I think of.

My partner and I were in a restaurant where a big family was gathered, and one of the moms was feeding her baby, and I asked him what he thought, and his response was, ‘well everyone else is eating, why should the baby have to wait? by the way, check out the neat baby-sling that lady has! totally hands-free!’

but that’s because he’s just neat. and all about the decorative baby-holders.

besides, I thought the areola and nipple were the ‘dirty parts’ of a breast. Baby’s covering those, so what’s the big deal?

]]> By: Andrew Kaikai http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/07/27/my-what-a-prophetic-headline/#comment-56937 Andrew Kaikai Fri, 28 Jul 2006 22:55:04 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/07/27/my-what-a-prophetic-headline/#comment-56937 I've spent most of my (somewhat short) life in Sierra Leone, West Africa, where public breastfeeding is not only not demonized to such an extent, but actually encouraged. All the churches have seats in the back reserved for nursing mothers. It's surprising how much America has such contradictory views on such matters. On the one hand, the porn industry is so huge, but people are sqeaumish about a woman breast feeding. I’ve spent most of my (somewhat short) life in Sierra Leone, West Africa, where public breastfeeding is not only not demonized to such an extent, but actually encouraged. All the churches have seats in the back reserved for nursing mothers. It’s surprising how much America has such contradictory views on such matters. On the one hand, the porn industry is so huge, but people are sqeaumish about a woman breast feeding.

]]> By: weeklyrob http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/07/27/my-what-a-prophetic-headline/#comment-56931 weeklyrob Fri, 28 Jul 2006 22:19:51 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/07/27/my-what-a-prophetic-headline/#comment-56931 It makes me crazy that people get so crazy about this stuff. I mean, death and destruction, blood and gore, pain and horror, are all dinner-table talk, but they can't stomach a mother and child? I admit that I get a little uncomfortable when women I know pull it out for nursing. But I also know that it's my issue, not there's. And that picture doesn't even show more than you'd see on the street. I recently saw <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/health/5190306.stm" rel="nofollow">areola on a bbc.com </a>story about how breast-feeding may help the baby feel less pain. Big deal. It makes me crazy that people get so crazy about this stuff. I mean, death and destruction, blood and gore, pain and horror, are all dinner-table talk, but they can’t stomach a mother and child?

I admit that I get a little uncomfortable when women I know pull it out for nursing. But I also know that it’s my issue, not there’s.

And that picture doesn’t even show more than you’d see on the street. I recently saw areola on a bbc.com story about how breast-feeding may help the baby feel less pain. Big deal.

]]> By: Georgiana http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/07/27/my-what-a-prophetic-headline/#comment-56885 Georgiana Fri, 28 Jul 2006 19:44:09 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/07/27/my-what-a-prophetic-headline/#comment-56885 I'd ditto the comment that the picture is all about the baby and his/her adoring eyes. Plus the picture angle (and whatever photoshopping may have been done) makes the breast hardly seem more than a curve. I had to do a double-take to realize yes, indeedy it was a breast. Which makes the fuss over the photo even more ridiculous. Esp. when many nearby magazine covers will showcase a model in a barely - there bikini showing a lot more than I've ever seen with a breastfeeding mother. Honestly as long as someone is reasonably discreet when breastfeeding, who cares? It's perfectly simple to avert one eyes if one doesn't want to watch. And if the eye averting doesn't work, then the problem isn't with the nursing mother is it? Or more simply, it's easier to control one's own behavior (and wiser), than forcing others to behave in ways that won't trouble you (because they won't.) I’d ditto the comment that the picture is all about the baby and his/her adoring eyes. Plus the picture angle (and whatever photoshopping may have been done) makes the breast hardly seem more than a curve. I had to do a double-take to realize yes, indeedy it was a breast. Which makes the fuss over the photo even more ridiculous. Esp. when many nearby magazine covers will showcase a model in a barely – there bikini showing a lot more than I’ve ever seen with a breastfeeding mother.

Honestly as long as someone is reasonably discreet when breastfeeding, who cares? It’s perfectly simple to avert one eyes if one doesn’t want to watch. And if the eye averting doesn’t work, then the problem isn’t with the nursing mother is it? Or more simply, it’s easier to control one’s own behavior (and wiser), than forcing others to behave in ways that won’t trouble you (because they won’t.)

]]> By: Lynn Gazis-Sax http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/07/27/my-what-a-prophetic-headline/#comment-56880 Lynn Gazis-Sax Fri, 28 Jul 2006 19:36:00 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/07/27/my-what-a-prophetic-headline/#comment-56880 Big difference between covering up conventions that are trivial to follow and ones that seriously interfere with a person's freedom of movement. Or, in this case, ability to feed her baby in what would otherwise be the best and most practical way for her. Big difference between covering up conventions that are trivial to follow and ones that seriously interfere with a person’s freedom of movement. Or, in this case, ability to feed her baby in what would otherwise be the best and most practical way for her.

]]> By: Rhiannon http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/07/27/my-what-a-prophetic-headline/#comment-56877 Rhiannon Fri, 28 Jul 2006 19:20:49 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/07/27/my-what-a-prophetic-headline/#comment-56877 <blockquote>Why Women Don’t Nurse Longer.” Can’t imagine why. </blockquote> I read that article on parenting.com so I didn't ge the mag with the heartwarming cover. But as to the whole "why women don't nurse longer" query... I can't speak for any other mom but for me it was when my daughter got her top front teeth and then her bottom front teeth... ouch. *winces from memory* That ended it pretty much right there.

Why Women Don’t Nurse Longer.”

Can’t imagine why.

I read that article on parenting.com so I didn’t ge the mag with the heartwarming cover.

But as to the whole “why women don’t nurse longer” query… I can’t speak for any other mom but for me it was when my daughter got her top front teeth and then her bottom front teeth… ouch. *winces from memory* That ended it pretty much right there.

]]> By: Medicine Man http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/07/27/my-what-a-prophetic-headline/#comment-56870 Medicine Man Fri, 28 Jul 2006 18:49:09 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/07/27/my-what-a-prophetic-headline/#comment-56870 Sometimes I just think certain people never tire of telling woman what they can and can-not do with their bodies. Sometimes I just think certain people never tire of telling woman what they can and can-not do with their bodies.

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