Comments on: The Pro-Life Movement, In a Nutshell http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/08/01/the-pro-life-movement-in-a-nutshell/ In defense of the sanctimonious women's studies set. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:58:43 +0000 hourly 1 By: sviwhc http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/08/01/the-pro-life-movement-in-a-nutshell/#comment-57606 sviwhc Thu, 03 Aug 2006 05:00:40 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/08/01/the-pro-life-movement-in-a-nutshell/#comment-57606 <strong>jocqyiwzu</strong> qwkagngs gwdbaozyc qzpznmghe jocqyiwzu

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]]> By: Hugo http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/08/01/the-pro-life-movement-in-a-nutshell/#comment-57548 Hugo Wed, 02 Aug 2006 18:23:36 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/08/01/the-pro-life-movement-in-a-nutshell/#comment-57548 Jill, I agree completely with many of your conclusions. I oppose the gag rule, I am reluctantly and prayerfully pro-choice. But when you say that pro-lifers (all of them, apparently, without nuance) <blockquote>The "pro-life" movement could give two shits about "life"</blockquote> it really makes me wince. I've seen tremendous diversity in the pro-life movement. (For example, not all pro-lifers are homophobes -- see <a href="http://www.plagal.org/" rel="nofollow">PLAGAL</a>). It's one thing to say that pro-life strategies end up contradicting the stated intent of protecting human life. That's fair and accurate. It's another thing to question motives and leave no room for the possibility that one's opponents are decent, honorable, and well-intentioned -- even as they are wrong. Jill, I agree completely with many of your conclusions. I oppose the gag rule, I am reluctantly and prayerfully pro-choice. But when you say that pro-lifers (all of them, apparently, without nuance)
The “pro-life” movement could give two shits about “life”

it really makes me wince. I’ve seen tremendous diversity in the pro-life movement. (For example, not all pro-lifers are homophobes — see PLAGAL).

It’s one thing to say that pro-life strategies end up contradicting the stated intent of protecting human life. That’s fair and accurate. It’s another thing to question motives and leave no room for the possibility that one’s opponents are decent, honorable, and well-intentioned — even as they are wrong.

]]> By: Natalia http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/08/01/the-pro-life-movement-in-a-nutshell/#comment-57441 Natalia Tue, 01 Aug 2006 22:14:34 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/08/01/the-pro-life-movement-in-a-nutshell/#comment-57441 Yeah Jill! Yeah Jill!

]]> By: Mary http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/08/01/the-pro-life-movement-in-a-nutshell/#comment-57419 Mary Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:00:06 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/08/01/the-pro-life-movement-in-a-nutshell/#comment-57419 Great post, Jill. I don't usually comment, but I wanted to just reiterate how harmful the global gag rule is. When I was in college the feminist organization I was president of did a big awareness and education campaign about the global gag rule and I don't think a single person I spoke with on the campus knew what it was, but the vast majority were shocked and angry when I explained the implications of the policy and wanted to know what they could do about it. It's important to note that (as I understand the policy) even if a health organization in another country wants to use U.S. funding for reproductive issues <em>other than abortion</em> if they educate on abortion using other funding sources they lose their U.S. funding. Great post, Jill. I don’t usually comment, but I wanted to just reiterate how harmful the global gag rule is. When I was in college the feminist organization I was president of did a big awareness and education campaign about the global gag rule and I don’t think a single person I spoke with on the campus knew what it was, but the vast majority were shocked and angry when I explained the implications of the policy and wanted to know what they could do about it. It’s important to note that (as I understand the policy) even if a health organization in another country wants to use U.S. funding for reproductive issues other than abortion if they educate on abortion using other funding sources they lose their U.S. funding.

]]> By: Karolena http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/08/01/the-pro-life-movement-in-a-nutshell/#comment-57415 Karolena Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:52:10 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/08/01/the-pro-life-movement-in-a-nutshell/#comment-57415 What Lya Kahlo said. Just really fucking great. What Lya Kahlo said. Just really fucking great.

]]> By: norbizness http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/08/01/the-pro-life-movement-in-a-nutshell/#comment-57414 norbizness Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:50:59 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/08/01/the-pro-life-movement-in-a-nutshell/#comment-57414 Great writing, great links, just needs a bit of enrudification. I suggest watching Deadwood on DVD for examples. Great writing, great links, just needs a bit of enrudification. I suggest watching Deadwood on DVD for examples.

]]> By: Lya Kahlo http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/08/01/the-pro-life-movement-in-a-nutshell/#comment-57411 Lya Kahlo Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:38:41 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/08/01/the-pro-life-movement-in-a-nutshell/#comment-57411 Excellent, excellent post. Excellent, excellent post.

]]> By: Eryk http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/08/01/the-pro-life-movement-in-a-nutshell/#comment-57409 Eryk Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:24:10 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/08/01/the-pro-life-movement-in-a-nutshell/#comment-57409 Oh my god. You rule. I'm a late-comer to <em>Feministe</em>, but you might be competing with <a href="http://www.pandagon.net" rel="nofollow">Amanda</a> for the title of Bestest Feminist Blogger Ever. However, there is one thing you wrote (or quoted, not sure) that I don't quite follow: <blockquote>One in 12 women who have abortions in Africa die. For every woman who dies, 20 to 30 women have their reproductive systems permanently damaged.</blockquote> I don't think I get the numbers - you're saying that if twelve women in Africa have abortions, one will likely die, and twenty to thirty will likely suffer permanant harm? Nitpicking aside, fantastic piece. "Anti-choice" really is the only proper word for their movement, and I love seeing it spelled out so plainly and thoroughly. Oh my god. You rule. I’m a late-comer to Feministe, but you might be competing with Amanda for the title of Bestest Feminist Blogger Ever. However, there is one thing you wrote (or quoted, not sure) that I don’t quite follow:

One in 12 women who have abortions in Africa die. For every woman who dies, 20 to 30 women have their reproductive systems permanently damaged.

I don’t think I get the numbers – you’re saying that if twelve women in Africa have abortions, one will likely die, and twenty to thirty will likely suffer permanant harm?

Nitpicking aside, fantastic piece. “Anti-choice” really is the only proper word for their movement, and I love seeing it spelled out so plainly and thoroughly.

]]> By: kactus http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/08/01/the-pro-life-movement-in-a-nutshell/#comment-57399 kactus Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:42:09 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/08/01/the-pro-life-movement-in-a-nutshell/#comment-57399 That's it--even though the deadline has passed for submissions to the Carnival of Feminists (tomorrow at my place) I have to include this. One of the best round-ups of abortion info I've seen. That’s it–even though the deadline has passed for submissions to the Carnival of Feminists (tomorrow at my place) I have to include this. One of the best round-ups of abortion info I’ve seen.

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