You know when your image-builder is making racist and anti-Semitic comments, you’re in trouble.
“You see those are the people who have been overcharging us,” he said of the owners of the small stores, “and they sold out and moved to Florida. I think they’ve ripped off our communities enough. First it was Jews, then it was Koreans and now it’s Arabs.”
And that’s why Wal-Mart is good for urban areas.
No thanks.
(Yes, I am back, but am crazily preparing for interviews and dealing with apartment stuff. A detailed travel post will come soon!)
Weird. This is the same Andrew Young that was the US Ambassador to the UN from 1976-79. He was forced to resign after it was revealed he was meeting with reps from the PLO.
Right, well, as long as he’s only racist on a local level and doesn’t start making any generalizations. Who knows which ethnic groups are fucking shit up in New York or Los Angeles! It could be any of them! We can’t blame only Jews, Koreans, and Arabs, we’ve got to embrace diversity!
Check out Vox today! Lots of great rape jokes are being made by the good Christian men over there and his latest: “I told you they were anti-semitic” is a real gem of idiocy. He doesn’t even ge the fact that the post is soooo him…about hateful people and how they don’t know they are haters…but of course its about feminists!
And, what, praytell, are “great rape jokes,” Sarah?
and, what, praytell, are “great rape jokes,” Sarah?
MAJOR SARCASM there…I meant the men think the rape jokes are just swell and in no way conflict with their religion!
From Vox:
“A feminist sees men exactly as anti-Semites see Jews. This is because she is an anti-Semite—the same template, the same bottle but with different wine. She has a more hair-trigger anger (“Men are sexist pigs”) because she can get away with it, a more bellicose incivility for the same reason, but the same (watch, and see whether I am right) lack of humor, obsessiveness, and the characteristic basing of her personality on the hatred.
Haters seldom know much about those they hate. It doesn’t matter to them, and just gets in the way. As anti-Semites are clueless about Jews, so feminists are clueless about men. Anti-Semites know that Jews rub their hands and say “heheheh” and want to destroy Western civilization. Feminists know that men don’t have feelings and want to oppress women, and hurt them, and degrade them. Yet they (both) think they know the hated enemy. They both pour forth half-truths, thudding clichés, carefully selected facts, and abject foolishness, and both are blankly unable to see the other side’s point of view or to concede it any virtue at all.
I have known only a few such feminists well, though I have read many. They have struck me, without exception that comes to mind, as fitting a peculiar mold: bright, very hostile and combative, but physically timid and pampered, hothouse flowers really, usually from fairly moneyed families and often Ivy or semi-Ivy schools. Often they have done little outside of feminism and would be helpless out of an urban setting. They have no idea how anything around them works—what a cam lobe is, how a refrigerator makes things cold, or how a file-allocation table might be arranged. Their degrees run to ideologizable pseudosubjects such as sociology, psychology, or Women’s Studies. They seem isolated from most of life.”
A woman’s response:
“Haters seldom know much about those they hate. It doesn’t matter to them, and just gets in the way.”
“Yet they (both) think they know the hated enemy. They both pour forth half-truths, thudding clichés, carefully selected facts, and abject “foolishness, and both are blankly unable to see the other side’s point of view or to concede it any virtue at all.”
Yes…this is true…most hateful people do not even have the sense to know they are hateful so they make mass generalizations, refuse to see the other side’s point of view, etc.
Then he provides an example:
“I have known only a few such feminists well, though I have read many. They have no idea how anything around them works—what a cam lobe is, how a refrigerator makes things cold, or how a file-allocation table might be arranged.”
which is followed up by:
“Personally, I think this is extremely offensive in that Mr. Reed entirely fails to take into account the way in which the emotionally scarring experience of near rape, potential rape and assumed rape leaves a feminist no choice to launch indiscriminate verbal assaults on men in much the same manner that Hezbollah hurls Iranian rockets at Israel.”
Yes…pretty scary those haters who don’t recognize their own hate and are close minded to anyone else’s viewpoint.
Then a bunch of men started making penis jokes…go figure!
Sarah, I see that you’ve reproduced one of those “great” rape jokes for us in the comment being held.
And, curiously, you’re the same Sarah with the same email who left a comment in support of our friend in the post below — curiously, with his url left as your url.
I’ll be deleting that comment, and you’ll be put on moderation until we can figure out if you’re just a cheerleader for these guys.
huh?
nope…go to his site…all those “anonymous comments”…all me…noooooo cheerleader here thank you! When did I support him for goodness sake?
Good ole patriarch….I like to throw some trouble his way when possible.
Its like how I enjoy posting under a man’s name on Vox to see how the men respond. Comment as a woman and they just call you a lesbian cunt and dismiss you…comment as a man and you actually get a rise from them!
Erm…back to the topic at hand…what the hell was Andrew Young doing working for Wal-Mart in the first place? And what was he thinking when he made those ignorant-ass comments? Did he forget everything he fought for 40 years ago?
Yeargh.
The sequence of events:
1) Wal-Mart hires a noted civil rights leader, Andrew Young, to improve their public image
2) Civil rights leader turns out, unexpectedly, to be an anti-semite and a racist
3) Wal-Mart distances itself from Mr. Young
And this is damning of Wal-Mart, and leads to conclusion that Wal-Mart is bad for urban areas because…
Walmart has always had a bad reputation with its staff. Treats them very badly, or so I hear. I have never worked there but some friends of mine in college have it for their summer jobs.
Hey everyone. This is my first post on your blog. I just started reading this article and it appears you guys are into feminism and brought it up in the comments. To be honest, I really don’t know much about the whole organization in depth(except that it’s for women’s rights), but I would like to learn more. I would probably consider myself a male feminist. From whatever little stuff I read about it in the past, it seems like you guys do good things. What do you guys here personally believe in when it comes to this stuff?
At Feministe? Whatever tipped you off?
Walmart has always had a bad reputation with its staff. Treats them very badly, or so I hear. I have never worked there but some friends of mine in college have it for their summer jobs.
I’ve heard the same thing. There are also multiple lawsuits which have been brought by employees all over alleging racial or gender discrimination.
Hey everyone. This is my first post on your blog. I just started reading this article and it appears you guys are into feminism and brought it up in the comments. To be honest, I really don’t know much about the whole organization in depth(except that it’s for women’s rights), but I would like to learn more. I would probably consider myself a male feminist. From whatever little stuff I read about it in the past, it seems like you guys do good things. What do you guys here personally believe in when it comes to this stuff?
You’re right, Andrew. Feminism isn’t a state of mind, it’s a single organization. With tax-exempt status and an office, and fundraisers. We do bake sales in which some feminists make sugar cookies shaped like penises, and the other feminists eat those phalluses up to the last crumb. And we have blood sacrifices at the new moon, and on the third Monday of every month we all go and get recreational abortions together because it’s so entertaining and we get a group discount.
And we’re all lesbians, every single one, even the ones who are married to men. Because you see, no real man could tolerate being married to a feminist instead of a real woman. After they’ve gotten the satisfactory number of children out of a husband, the married feminist castrates him, lobotomizes him, and keeps him around for the housework. An d to look after the kids while she’s off at the coven plotting the downfall of western civilization. So hard to get babysitters on short notice, you know.
Andrew, sweetie, if your comment was satire, you are brilliant and I adore you. In fact, I may want to have your babies (of course, I also want to have Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert’s babies, because those’d be some damn funny kids).
If it was serious, may I humbly suggest that you either browse some of the old posts here or do a google search about feminism? Possibly both. If you really want to know, there are lots of easy ways of finding out. An awful lot of people show up on feminist blogs wanting two-paragraph Cole’s Notes explanations of feminism from random regulars, and some of us hairy-legged, baby-killing dykes get a little tired of it after a while, particularly since basic info about feminism is not exactly a closely-guarded secret to anybody with Grade 6-level literacy and above. Which, given that there were no spelling or grammatical mistakes in your post, I’m assuming you have.
The only reason I’m answering you at all is because I’m home sick on a Friday night and playing on the internet is something that can be done fairly easily when high as a kite on anti-histamines and other assorted wonder drugs. Also, I’ve already seen all my DVDs.
Because Wal-Mart was always bad for urban areas. And rural areas.
Andrew Young was focusing on the Korean/Jew-owned food stores, but he neglected to mention the black-owned small businesses that would be put out of business by Wal-Mart. The clothing stores and the shoe stores and the appliance stores.
In New York, one of the major objections to Wal-Mart has been its lack of union jobs and living wage. Every time they try to discuss a new location, the Giant Rat comes out (a 10-foot-tall inflatable rat that is situated outside nonunion shops). Now, there are nonunion businesses in town, but they tend to be of the type, like Costco, where nonunion status is maintained by giving the workers better than they’d get with a union.
Wal-Mart, if you’ll remember, closed its stores in Quebec rather than bend to the province’s right-to-work laws.
Oh, and Sarah? Go stir shit somewhere else.
I may be wrong, but as far as I know, there are no right to work laws in Canada.
Even if there are, they didn’t play a role in this instance. The workers voted to join the union (kinda) and then a few months later Walmart closed the store.
Also, they only closed one store. There are still about 50 Walmarts in Quebec.
I’m no fan of the organization, mainly because it can keep it’s prices so low because it is indirectly subsidized (perhaps directly too, dunno) by government giving welfare (too) to it’s employees, IIRC.
I also recall that it is not just disliked by liberals/progressives, but by some conservatives too, if this is representative. Not by the current admin, of course, because Wal-Mart (IIRC) gives quite a lot money to their campaign funding.
I merely pointed out, by highlighting the sequence of events, that this is unlikely to change anyones mind about it, because it did the best thing under the surprising circumstances.
The real fool here is Andrew Young, who comes across as quite a power-mongering opportunist as opposed to someone who is genuinely interested in social justice.
Andrew Young came across as a power-mongering opportunist the minute he took that job, of course. Feh.
All else aside, I’m glad to see the Giant Rat is still getting around. We had one of his brethren here in Berkeley for a few months, outside an auto dealership/service shop that got bought out by a union-buster. An agreement has been reached and the picket line’s gone. A rather festive one it was, too, and some of us miss seeing the Rat as we go down Shattuck Avenue.
Those Rats are made by a guy in Chicago, who sells them exclusively to unions: Great Moments in Niche Marketing.
The giant rat was outside NYU for most of last year. I don’t think they’ve resolved their labor disputes yet, so I imagine it’ll be back soon.