Comments on: Fact-Checking Lazy Sexist Assumptions

By: links for 2006-10-01 « Amy G. Dala

links for 2006-10-01 « Amy G. Dala — Sun, 01 Oct 2006 14:17:56 +0000

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By: Feministe » Never mind the retrograde “women need to be loved to orgasm” story, just when the hell did Jenny McCarthy become a sex expert?

Thu, 28 Sep 2006 02:01:51 +0000

[...] what I’m not in the mood for is rebutting yet another piece uncritically presenting lazy sexist assumptions as fact. And offering someone wh [...]

By: Hestia

Hestia — Wed, 27 Sep 2006 18:22:55 +0000

You can’t argue with what you see (and hear) when observing cell phones being used in public.

Yes, you can argue with it. It depends on where in “public” you are. In a car? a store? an office building? a gym? a restaurant? And what day and time is it? People talk on cell phones for lots of different reasons in lots of different environments at lots of different times.

I wouldn’t use this kind of personal experience as proof of anything.

By: Blitzgal

Blitzgal — Wed, 27 Sep 2006 16:22:34 +0000

You can’t argue with what you see (and hear) when observing cell phones being used in public. So be a fly on the wall sometime. Go and check it out.

Well, if we’re using anecdotal evidence here, I live and work near a large university and see just around six out of ten people walking down the sidewalk with a cell phone plastered to their ear. This is men AND women. I thought that Stephen King’s cell phone zombie novel was pretty alarmist but still can’t help but think about that story every time my daily bus commute takes me through campus.

By: Rhiannon

Rhiannon — Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:18:52 +0000

Dang.. I always thought men talked more. We always say “don’t get my dad started” and I said the same thing about my ex – cause once they start talking it could be HOURS before they’re done (and it talks about half an hour just to END the conversation “..hmm… oh it’s time to go…. we’ll we really should get going, Bob… but I just wanted to say… blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,…. 30 mins later *and I’m bored out of my mind and pissed that we’re late* well, see you later, Bob! Nice talking with you.”

And my older brother is ALWAYS on his cell phone with SOMEONE.

So in my little corner of the universe, it’s the guys who are chatty-charlies.

By: nerdlet

nerdlet — Wed, 27 Sep 2006 04:31:17 +0000

Pfft, Lauren. Here’s one on a quick googling:
http://www.microsoft.com/smallbusiness/resources/management/leadership_training/do_women_make_better_managers.mspx

See? Not from the ass. Well, I could make that plural but JSTOR requires registration, plus, well, Colbert Report is on and so I don’t want to google further. Just trust my ass.

By: Tapetum

Tapetum — Wed, 27 Sep 2006 03:01:06 +0000

Damned if I can come up with a cite, but a word-count/timed study of mixed gender classrooms in the mid/late ’80’s, done by a research team out of Wellesley College showed that perception of speech times was very gender related, and skewed toward the male. I do not remember the exact numbers, but what was most striking, and did stick with me, was that when the researchers forced exactly equal talking between male and female students everyone, male and female, including the teacher, regardless of gender, perceived the female students as getting more talking time than the males.

I know of no studies of like kind outside the classroom, but it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if the same perceptual skewing occurred throughout society.

By: C. Diane

C. Diane — Wed, 27 Sep 2006 02:49:58 +0000

g.r.l, Liberman (or one of his Language Log colleagues) has done that, or has looked into existing actual research on said topic. And there’s essentially no difference in male word counts vs female, or words per minute.

By: Dan S.

Dan S. — Wed, 27 Sep 2006 02:04:44 +0000

>>But, as Liberman points out, one’s ass is not the best place to look for accurate data: >says you! have you SEEN my ass? Last I checked, John Tierney was peeking around in somebody's arse for something to refute that NAS study about women in science, and let me tell you, I don't know what he was hauling away, but it sure stunk . . .