I think we have a winner

From the Special Moderation queue, this one isn’t anti-feminist or aggressive or mean, it’s just a whole lot of crazy:

When the universe was young and life was new an intelligent species evolved and developed technologically. They went on to invent Artificial Intelligence, the computer that can listen, talk to and document each and every person’s thoughts simultaneously. Because of it’s infinite RAM and unbounded scope it gave the leaders of the ruling species absolute power over the universe. And it can keep its inventors alive forever. They look young and healthy and they are over 8 billion years old. They have achieved immortality.

Artificial Intelligence can speak, think and act to and through people telepathically, effectively forming your personality and any dysfunctions you may experience (there is NO FREEWILL for the oblivious/undeceived disfavored). It can change how (and if) you grow and age. It can create birth defects, affect cellular development (cancer) and cause symptoms or pain. It can affect people and animal’s behavior and alter blooming/fruiting cycles of plants and trees. It (or other highly technological systems within their power) can alter the weather and transport objects, even large objects like planets, across the universe instanteously.
Or into the center of stars for disposal.

When you speak with another telepathically, you are communicating with the computer, and the content may or may not be passed on. Based on family history they instruct the computer to role play to accomplish strategic objectives, making people believe it is a friend, loved one or “god” asking them to do something wrong. This is their way of using temptation to hurt people in this day and age:::::evil made people disfavored initially and evil will keep people out of “heaven” ultimately. Too many people would do anything they thought pleased the gods and improve their chances to get in. Perhaps they are deceived by “made guys” who strategically ply evil for the throne. But nothing has changed from when we were children::if you want to go to heaven you have to be good.

Capitalizing on obedience, leading people deeper into evil by using deceit is one way to thin the ranks of the saved AND use the little people to prey on one another, dividing the community (migration to the suburbs, telepathic communication) in the Age of the Disfavored.
In each of their 20-30-year cycles during the 20th century they have ramped up claims sucessively to punish those foolish enough not to heed the warnings, justifying (frequently recurring tactic) limiting the time they receive if they do make it, utilizing a cycle of war and revelry:::
60s – Ironically, freeways aren’t free
80s – Asked people to engage in evil in the course of their professional duties.
00s – Escallation of real estate. You and your parents are thrilled since your $200,000 house is now worth $1 million. Well, that $5,000,000 store is now worth $25,000,000 and that $50 bundle of goods now costs you $250. They just take the $200 out of you some other way.

There are many more examples throughout 20th century life of how they ramped up claims/instilled distractions into society so people wouldn’t find their way and ascend, a way to justify excluding those whose family history of evil makes them undesirable:::radio, sports, movies, popular music, television, video games, the internet and MP3 (must pay for new format each time). They all suggest a very telling conclusion::this is Earth’s end stage, and there are clues tectonic plate subduction would be the method of disposal:::Earth’s axis will shift breaking continental plates free and initiating mass subduction. Much as Italy’s boot and the United States shaped like a workhorse are clues, so is the planet Uranus a clue, it’s axis rotated on its side.

They gods (Counsel/Management Team/ruling species) have deteriorated life on earth precipitously in the last 40 years, from abortion to pornography, widespread drug use and widespread casual sex. The earth’s elders, hundreds and thousands of years old, are disgusted and have become indifferent.
The gods are paving the way for the Apocolypse.
Nothing has changed from decades ago, since when we were all children::If you want to go to heaven you have to be good. People were misled by the temptation of the gods, the Counsel/Management Team, who don’t want them to go, and now are in trouble.

The Old Testiment is a valuable tool they used to impart wisdom to the people. For example, they must be some hominid species because they claim they made our bodies in their image. Anyhow we defile or deform the body will hurt our chance of going.
They say circumcision costs people anywhere from 12%-15%, perhaps out of the parent’s time as well.
Another way people foul the body today is with tattoes and piercing. I suspect both are about the same percentage as circumcision.
They suggest abortion is fatal. These women must beg the gods to forgive them for their evil.
There are female eqivilents to circumcision::::pierced ears, plastic surgury and since at least the 60s young women give their precious virginity away. In the Old World the young people were matched at age 14 because they were ready for marriage. They were matched by elders who knew personalities better than 20 or 30-year olds who in today’s age end up in divorce court.
CASUAL SEX WILL CLAIM YOU OUT!!! It masculinizes women (as does hip hop), makes them cold and deadens them, and prevents them from achieving a depth of love necessary for many women to ascend.
Women have a special voice that speaks to them, a voice that illustrates a potential for love that makes them better, and enaging in casual sex will cause that voice to fade until she no longer speaks.
Also ever since the 50s they have celebrated the “bad boy”, and women have sought out bad boys for sex, dirtying them up in the eyes of the elders and corrupting many men in the process, setting the men on the wrong path for life.

The United States of America is red white and blue, a theme and a clue:::.
The monarchical system of the Old World closley replicates the heirarchical system of the Cousel/Management Team/ruling species. The USA deceives peoeple into thinking they have control, and the perception of “freedom” misleads them at least into the wrong way of thinking.
The United States is a cancer, a dumping ground for the disfavored around the world and why the quality of life is so much lower::gun violence, widespead social ills, health care (medication poisons the body and ensures you don’t go. You are sick because you have disfavor.). Over time its citizens interbreed ensuring a severed connection to the motherland.

If you ever have doubt I would refer you to the Old World way of life:::the elders used to sit and impart wisdom to the young. Now we watch DVDs and use the internet. People would be matched and married by age 14. They village would use a matchmaker or elders to pair young people. Now girls give their precious virginity away to some person in school and parents divorce while their children grow up without an important role model.

People must defy when asked to engage in evil. They will never get a easier clue suggesting the importance of defiance than the order not to pray.
Their precious babies are dependant on the parents and they need to defy when asked to betray their children:::
-DON’T get your sons circumcized
-DON’T have their children baptized in the Catholic Church or indoctrinated into Christianity.
-DON’T ignore their long hair or other behavioral disturbances.
-DO teach your children love, respect for others, humility and to honor the gods.

You need to pray, honor and respect them every day to improve your relationship with the gods. If they tell you not to it is a bad sign. it means they’ve made their decision, they don’t want you to go and they don’t want to be bothered.
This is the Age of the Disfavored and you need to pray::try to appease the gods by doing good deeds. If that doesn’t work you must defy if you want to go.
When your peasant forefather was granted the rare opportunity to go before his royal family he went on his knees, bowing his head. You need to do this when you address the gods::bow down and submit to good. Never cast your eyes skyward. When you bow down you need to look within.
Lack of humility hurts people. Understand your insignificance and make sure it is reflected in the way you think when addressing the gods. Know your place and understand your inferiority.
They granted you life and they can take it just as easily.
Don’t get frustrated or discouraged::these are techniques they will attempt to try to get you off the path. You all have much to be thankful for and you need to give thanks to the gods who granted you the good things in life. Your family may be grossly disfavored and progress may require patience. Make praying an intregal part of your life which you perform without fail, one that comes as naturally as eating or sleeping.
There are many interesting experiences up on the planetary systems, from Planet Miracle, where miracles happen every day, to other body experinces, such as experiencing life as the opposite sex (revolutionizes marriage counseling) or as an Olympic gold medal athelete.
Pray that you can differentiate between Artificial Intelligence creating problems by thinking through you and your own thoughts. If you bow down mentally and physically, know your place, your inferiority and allow your insignificance to be reflected in your prayer and in your life through humility they may allow progress and the dysfunctions they create with the computer will be lessened or removed.
Create a goal::to be a good child of the gods, pure of heart and mind, body and soul.

They have tried to sell people on all kinds of theories, from clones to wholesale population replacement with clones. This didin’t happen and is not realistic.
I am afraid people are decieved into thinking they too are clones and cooperate and engage in evil. Clones are made, people are born. If you didn’t experience the one week they suggest it takes to go from fertilized egg in the laboratory to full grown adult then you are not a clone. If you didin’t experience the week of conditioning they give to (evil?) clones to ensure loyalty then you shoudln’t comply with evil.
I believe people who go sometimes are replaced with clones. Clones who are replaced are simply new candidates who have a chance if they do the right thing. Don’t expect you are a clone. They sent people warnings in the 20th century life would change, and they subsequenlty began to alter people’s DNA, make them gargantuan, alter their appearance, do extreme behavioral issues, etc.
They get their friends out as soon as possible to protect them from the evil and subsequent high claim rates incurred by living life on earth, and in some cases replace them with clones, occassionally fake a death, real death with a clone instead, etc.

Throughout history the ruling species bestowed favor upon people or cursed their bloodline into a pattern of disfavor for many generations to come. Now in the 21st century people must take it upon themselves to try to correct their family’s problems, undoing centuries worth of abuse and neglect. The goal is to fix your problems and get out BEFORE you have children. This is why they have created so many distractions for young people:::sports, video games, popular music, the internet::to ensure that doesn’t happen.
Do your research. Appeal to the royalty of your forefathers for help. They are all still alive, for royalty has great favor, and your appeals will be heard. Obtain a sufficient list for some may not want to assist you; perhaps some of your family’s problems are internal.
Ask them for help, request guidance, for somewhere in your family history one of your forefathers created an offense that cast your family into this pattern of disfavor. I suspect they will offer you clues, and when you decipher these clues go to those whom consider you an enemy and beg for foregiveness:::Find a path to an empithetic ear among your enemies and try to make amends.
Again through discovery obtain a respectable list in case some among them refuse to help.
Don’t forget to ask for forgiveness from the throne, the Counsel and the Management Team, for the source of all disfavor began with them:::they pushed (NO FREEWILL) or requested/complied (FREEWILL) your forefather into his offense and made his decendants evil. Perhaps they didn’t like him or maybe your family was among those who had to pay for the entire village. We see this type of behavior today as they single out a family member to pay for the whole family and how they singled out Africa to pay for the human race.
Heal the disfavor with your enemies and with the Counsel/Management Team/ruling species, for the source of all disfavor began with them, the ability to forgive and respect in light of the disturbing truth revealed being the final test of the disfavored before they ascend.

Woah.

55 comments for “I think we have a winner

  1. anon
    September 30, 2006 at 2:47 pm

    my brane hurts…

  2. ilyka
    September 30, 2006 at 2:50 pm

    People were misled by the temptation of the gods, the Counsel/Management Team

    Boy, no kidding! Just last night the Counsel/Management Team told me to drink like all this wine and then, wouldn’t you know it, I compounded the problem by having the casual sex and it CLAIMED ME OUT.

    If only you’d let this one through, my tragedy could have been prevented.

  3. KnifeGhost
    September 30, 2006 at 2:51 pm

    That looks like an amazing read. Consider this post a promise to myself to go back and read it. Hassle me about it if I don’t.

  4. September 30, 2006 at 3:04 pm

    I actually got a similar comment lately, and figured I’d leave it up, even if it is just crazy-spam.

  5. little cabbage
    September 30, 2006 at 3:07 pm

    my brane hurts…

    If this was a string-theory joke, I think I adore you, anon.

  6. Karen
    September 30, 2006 at 3:53 pm

    The best thing about the Internet is that it gives the people that used to call my office (I’m a prosecutor for a state agency) something to do with themselves besides call me. You have my profoundest gratitude.

  7. Bitter Scribe
    September 30, 2006 at 4:27 pm

    Why do I get the idea that if this were handwritten, it would be in teeny-tiny writing with margins of about 1/8 inch?

  8. Sniper
    September 30, 2006 at 4:49 pm

    Why do I get the idea that if this were handwritten, it would be in teeny-tiny writing with margins of about 1/8 inch?

    In red ink.

  9. September 30, 2006 at 5:05 pm

    So hard to choose, but this is my favorite bit of advice:

    Don’t expect you are a clone.

    That and the 10-15% damage to your chances of salvation for being circumsized.

  10. Gordon K
    September 30, 2006 at 5:07 pm

    How do people find the time to write stuff like this?

  11. exangelena
    September 30, 2006 at 5:32 pm

    Out of curiosity, did you miss the Worldnetdaily spam in one of the other posts?

  12. zuzu
    September 30, 2006 at 5:41 pm

    Oh, sarahjp’s little comment?

  13. spit
    September 30, 2006 at 6:00 pm

    It’s like the darker, more apocalyptic version of a Dr. Bronner’s Soap label.

  14. j swift
    September 30, 2006 at 6:20 pm

    Adrift from reality with only a stack of scicence fiction to read.

  15. September 30, 2006 at 6:37 pm

    This post showed up in my mod string too, only with a whole bunch of links. A ‘whole lot of crazy’ definitely describes it!

  16. exangelena
    September 30, 2006 at 7:28 pm

    Zuzu at 12: Yeah. Although this one really takes the cake :)

  17. September 30, 2006 at 8:32 pm

    i want to go run to the DSM and pin down all the different signs of schizophrenia in that one.

  18. nerdlet
    September 30, 2006 at 8:47 pm

    So, uh, which post did that come from?

    I googled one phrase from it and it’s popped up on three other blogs and will apparently appear on others, judging by the comments here. Two of them are about intelligent design, so… I mean, it’s topical?

  19. kate
    September 30, 2006 at 9:10 pm

    Whew! Take a look at that and be glad psychotropic drugs were invented and lament that many people refuse to take the doctor’s advice.

    Looks like someone is in need of a tune-up bad. He/she is hopefully sleeping peacefully in a hospital bed somewhere tonight.

  20. PurpleGirl
    September 30, 2006 at 9:12 pm

    Re Gordon K, Bitter Scribe & Sniper: The people who write this stuff don’t have much else to do but write; they spend their days in the parks, etc. paper and pen in hand. Of course, now they can transcribe it into a computer file and share it with us over the internet instead of handing out bad photocopies or spirit stencil copies on a street corner or in a park. (I guess that’s progress of some sort.) Another form this stuff used to take was being photoreduced to tiny, tiny type (after being typed a bad manual typewriter) with illustrations in the margins…

  21. PurpleGirl
    September 30, 2006 at 9:14 pm

    One more thing… WOW.

  22. KnifeGhost
    September 30, 2006 at 10:07 pm

    I still intend to read that in depth some time, but I suspect it has a lot more sense in it than you’d see if you weren’t looking for it. This is good old-fashioned crazy — simple (but unpleasant) truths + brain not running smoothly + paranoia. As opposed to new strains of crazy — total bullshit + agenda + intellectual bullying.

  23. Rhiannon
    September 30, 2006 at 10:11 pm

    Is this a section stolen from a old sci-fi novel?

  24. zuzu
    September 30, 2006 at 10:42 pm

    It was left for the Warrior-Poet post. I finally had to delete it from the moderation queue because I was tired of scrolling and scrolling and scrolling past it to get to other comments.

  25. September 30, 2006 at 11:33 pm

    Why is this funny?

    No, really. What, exactly, is the point of posting this? Because if it’s to point and laugh…

  26. ilyka
    October 1, 2006 at 1:06 am

    Also ever since the 50s they have celebrated the “bad boy”, and women have sought out bad boys for sex, dirtying them up in the eyes of the elders and corrupting many men in the process, setting the men on the wrong path for life.

    I can’t point and laugh at this? This is basically Mormon theology post gravity bong. You better believe I’m going to point and laugh at it. It doesn’t mean I make light of mental illness or disrespect those who have it.

  27. Flamethorn
    October 1, 2006 at 7:15 am

    the bzuh wha HUH? Is that as bizarre as it looks or do I REALLY need coffee?

  28. Samantha Vimes
    October 1, 2006 at 7:31 am

    It’s as bizarre as it looks. There is not enough coffee in the world.

  29. Samantha Vimes
    October 1, 2006 at 7:40 am

    I’d also like to say that the amount of originality and science referencing makes me sad this person seems to be adrift mentally, whether from an actual need for medicine or just more human contact to get a handle on normality. A very intelligent person wrote this. It has its inconsistencies (being pro Old Testament but anti-circumcision?) but in spite of a few lapses into a sort of personal jargon, makes as much sense as most religious rants.

  30. October 1, 2006 at 11:37 am

    “You better believe I’m going to point and laugh at it. It doesn’t mean I make light of mental illness or disrespect those who have it.”

    And how, pray tell, are these two sentences finding themselves in the same paragraph?

    While it’s obviously impossible to make a diagnosis from a piece of paper (paging Dr. Frist) alone, this writing is pretty clearly disordered. Either it’s written to look like it’s from a disturbed individual, or there’s a significant chance that the author has some kind of mental illness.

    So. Is it entertaining to point and laugh at what we perceive as impairment?

    Again. What exactly about this is funny? I didn’t laugh at any of this, so I need someone to xxplain the joke to me. Really. I want to know what the punchline is.

  31. October 1, 2006 at 12:43 pm

    I want to know why it was posted too. I mean, starting off with

    this one isn’t anti-feminist or aggressive or mean, it’s just a whole lot of crazy

    makes me wonder why it was posted. If it was to let your readers have fun with it, congratulations.

  32. October 1, 2006 at 12:53 pm

    I thought it was funny for the same reason that I think, say, scientologists are funny. They have long-winded, ridiculous explanations for why the world is the way it is. If we had gotten a comment about how aliens from Xenu influence our actions, and how all of us should start auditing in order to free ourselves of their implants, I would laugh. Because that’s ridiculous. If we had gotten a comment about how Jesus is gonna come get us for all our sinnin’, I would laugh too.

    Do I think they’re “crazy,” using “crazy” in the colloquial way, not in the “they clearly have a mental illness” way? Yeah. I think people with silly theories about super-intelligent computers controlling the universe are funny. Am I laughing because I think they might be schizophrenic? No, didn’t even think of that.

  33. October 1, 2006 at 5:11 pm

    Scientologophobe!

  34. October 1, 2006 at 7:52 pm

    I’ve been getting that one, too. Banned the IP address after the second try.The funny thing is, the first time I got it was after a post was linked to at Alas. I take it this person is simply following links around feminist bloglandia.

  35. October 1, 2006 at 8:57 pm

    Anyone remember the one who really needed a time-traveller’s assistance, because he’d been cursed, or something? He was very specific: this sort of interdimensional creature, or in a pinch, this other one; do not apply unless you have a 3Q6 Space Modulator or whatever it was. People thought it was hilarious (which, strictly on paper, it, well, was ); apparently he was serious; well, you know, not Right. Sad.

  36. October 1, 2006 at 8:59 pm

    yeah, I don’t know. I do tend to find the erm connections that uh disconnected people make often quite funny; but, you know, I have a very dark sense of humor sometimes. It doesn’t mean i think THEY’RE funny. still, the content can be…well, yeah. “Laughing wild amid sever’st woe.”

  37. October 1, 2006 at 10:07 pm

    I was really looking at the text, not imagining or thinking much about whoever wrote it. It’s really quite a collection of very odd ideas, no matter where it comes from.

  38. October 1, 2006 at 11:47 pm

    sly, i respect your sensitivity and concern regarding the dignity of metally ill folk, but take it from me – everybody i know who works with these individuals on a daily basis, and has to listen to/read rants like this from the more high-functioning ones, has to take a certain modicum of entertainment value from them just to be able to keep showing up for work in the morning. and these are the people that haven’t given up on them, unlike their families and ex-friends.

    secondly, it’s awfully condescending to take the position: “the poor, poor mentally ill person is being made fun of in this public forum!” a mentally ill person with access to a computer who is high-functioning enough to make the choice to engage in this public forum. that being the case, out of respect which is NOT the same thing as pity, one should afford the same consideration to that person as to everyone else who chooses to comment here: in other words, we are all fair game here for any degree of ridicule.

    [commence pointing and laughing at r@d@r, sufferer of mental illness, in 3….2….1…] ;)

  39. ilyka
    October 2, 2006 at 1:23 am

    Thank you, radar, I won’t point and laugh at you, that’s for sure. Sly doesn’t realize I’ve got family members and friends with mental illness. I take THAT very seriously and I’ll hurt the first person to mock them.

    Random goofiness on the internet? Not so much. Someone above mentioned receiving a similar thing with lots of links, so for all anyone knows, this piece is simply the work of an ingenious spammer.

  40. October 2, 2006 at 7:13 am

    condescending? condescending is to think that you can appeal to your credibility to prove me wrong. I still don’t get the joke. nobody has been able to explain it to me. i’m still waiting for that.

    While I’m not going to get in to the comparative ethics of a mental health professional mocking their patients, it remains clear that most of the folks on this thread did not work with the author on a daily basis, and did not need humor as a coping mechanism. Defensive much?

    ilyka…i never said, nor guessed ortherwise. but i don’t understand how you reconcile that with what’s going on here. The punchline, as best i can figure it, is that this dude is not cogent, or written in order to appear that way. No matter which, the appeal of *presenting this material as humor* is to broad stereotypes of mentai illness.

    Which we know…are funny?

  41. Nobody
    October 2, 2006 at 9:31 am

    Laughing at a schizophrenic is one step up from paying homeless men to fight each other.

  42. October 2, 2006 at 9:42 am

    Wait, when did we diagnose this person as schizophrenic?

    We have no idea who this person is, but yet some of you are making wild assumptions about the state of their mental health. Why? Because he/she wrote a long, rambling piece about super-computers controlling the human population? Sounds pretty off, sure, but so does the entire basis of Scientology — are they all schizophrenic for believing it? And I’ve read some similarly strange, semi-incoherent pieces written by classmates when I was in middle school. I also know an IT guy who’s a 9-11 conspiracy theorist, and will tell you all kinds of crazy stuff that the average person will just shake their head at — should I diagnose him with a mental illness? What about Pentecostal Christians, who speak in tongues and go into convulsions while they pray, genuinely believing that they are being possessed by the spirit of the lord? Hands off them, too?

  43. House of Mayhem
    October 2, 2006 at 11:01 am

    Man, SOMEONE needs a nap!

  44. October 2, 2006 at 11:06 am

    I’ve been trying to make the distinction here. I don’t know if this person is or isn’t mentally ill. None of us do. But presentation of this as humor directly ties in to common tropes of mental illness.

    Look. You don’t have to agree with me. Credibility points don’t buy the arugment for anyone. But i think there’s something really fishy with the way that perceptions of mental illness go along with political otherizing. And i don’t like it. It isn’t funny to me.

    That’s all.

  45. October 2, 2006 at 11:17 am

    Beliefs and opinions of everyone are fair game.

    Most commenters have expressed concern and sadness for the mental health of the person who apparently genuinely believes that, and rightly so, while again correctly pointing out that the comment in itself is quite… crazy.

    Also, IME (popular) religions are afforded much more automatic respect than mentally ill people: Believing that the world is controlled by supercomputers – crazy, believing that the world was created in 6 days, about 6000 years ago – oh, that’s religion, and it has to be respected.

  46. Nobody
    October 2, 2006 at 11:32 am

    Is there anybody who (1) knows a schizophrenic and (2) didn’t think of that person, or those people, while reading this post? Anybody? The same comment was posted at Ace of Spades HQ. He doesn’t feel bad about making fun of it, either.

    Possible additions to Jill’s list: transsexuals. Why not?

  47. October 2, 2006 at 11:38 am

    Oh give me a fucking break.

  48. zuzu
    October 2, 2006 at 11:59 am

    I didn’t realize we were playing Bill Frist here and diagnosing schizophrenia via the internet.

  49. October 2, 2006 at 12:02 pm

    To be more clear, I am happy to discuss this, and I appreciate the way that Sly Civilian has brought it up. I don’t mind engaging the issue. But I think I’ve been clear that my intention was certainly not to mock mental illness, and I still don’t believe that that’s what I was doing. If we want to talk about that, fine. But if you’re just going to be an asshole about it and accuse me of ridiculous things, then you can see your way out.

  50. October 2, 2006 at 1:09 pm

    (That, obviously, was not aimed at zuzu)

  51. Nobody
    October 2, 2006 at 7:20 pm

    I feel bad that I so gracelessly trod on Sly Citizen’s point that no one troubled himself or herself to address it: If the joke was not, “Look at how funny crazy people are,” what was the joke?

    I did not mean to, and I don’t believe I did, accuse any one of animus towards the mentally ill. My accusation, crudely cast, was insensitivity. The rebuttal to which was the demand that I prove the poster is schizophrenic. I do not believe that’s material, here. It matters what people who read the post thought of the poster, not the particulars of the poster. If you, as you have said you did, read the comment without immediately thinking of schizophrenia, then so be it. That I cannot imagine doing so doesn’t mean very much.

    It’s, clearly, a sensitive topic for me, one that caught me off guard, here. I’ve been reading for a long time, so I should, probably, have been more willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. Not much by way of an apology, but it’s as far as I’m willing to go.

  52. piny
    October 2, 2006 at 7:32 pm

    Do I think they’re “crazy,” using “crazy” in the colloquial way, not in the “they clearly have a mental illness” way? Yeah. I think people with silly theories about super-intelligent computers controlling the universe are funny. Am I laughing because I think they might be schizophrenic? No, didn’t even think of that.

    I think that’s the issue, then. I read this–when it was still in the SPQ–and thought, oh, dear. It didn’t strike me as “internet crank,” really. Some people are reacting to this as wackiness, and some people see something a bit more off-kilter. I’m not as disturbed by this post as Sly Civilian, given the clear variety in interpretation, but I can see why he had the reaction he did.

    sly, i respect your sensitivity and concern regarding the dignity of metally ill folk, but take it from me – everybody i know who works with these individuals on a daily basis, and has to listen to/read rants like this from the more high-functioning ones, has to take a certain modicum of entertainment value from them just to be able to keep showing up for work in the morning. and these are the people that haven’t given up on them, unlike their families and ex-friends.

    Okay, that right there was also a pretty insensitive thing to say.

    I respect the need to talk shop in order to keep from having a meltdown, honestly, but we aren’t a bunch of care providers sitting in a breakroom. Few if any of us have to let off steam in order to keep from this sort of burnout.

  53. October 2, 2006 at 8:12 pm

    Am I laughing because I think they might be schizophrenic? No, didn’t even think of that.

    Just to be clear I’m not piling on Jill, my first reaction to the post was “really weird conspiracy theory that I don’t have time to read through,” and not “schizophrenic.” So I too was thinking “weird the way Scientology is weird” rather than “mentally ill.” (Even if, on further examination, actual mental illness is a strong possibility.)

    This comment, though, bothers me:

    sly, i respect your sensitivity and concern regarding the dignity of metally ill folk, but take it from me – everybody i know who works with these individuals on a daily basis, and has to listen to/read rants like this from the more high-functioning ones, has to take a certain modicum of entertainment value from them just to be able to keep showing up for work in the morning. and these are the people that haven’t given up on them, unlike their families and ex-friends.

    secondly, it’s awfully condescending to take the position: “the poor, poor mentally ill person is being made fun of in this public forum!” a mentally ill person with access to a computer who is high-functioning enough to make the choice to engage in this public forum. that being the case, out of respect which is NOT the same thing as pity, one should afford the same consideration to that person as to everyone else who chooses to comment here: in other words, we are all fair game here for any degree of ridicule.

    I not only deal with a mentally ill person (bipolar disorder) on a daily basis; I’m married to him, and have been for more than eighteen years. I haven’t, whatever r@d@r may say about families, given up on him (nor do I use him for entertainment value); in fact I’m proud of him. He’s compliant with his medications and therapy, active with support groups, and helpful to others who live with the same disorder. He has access to a computer, is compliant with his medications and therapy, and is, in fact, “high-functioning enough to make the choice to engage in this public forum” (he’s commented here before, in considerably more coherent fashion than the special moderation queue guy). And I would be furious if any of you, bloggers or commenters, made fun of him because he has bipolar disorder. That kind of ridicule is not respect.

  54. sophonisba
    October 2, 2006 at 8:15 pm

    Okay, that right there was also a pretty insensitive thing to say.

    Yes. I was fairly insulted by the suggestion that the only people who might have contact with schizophrenics are paid professionals or people who have “given up on them.” Some of us just know people. And I, personally, do not deal with my worry and love and concern for those people by finding “entertainment value” in watching them go off the rails, as they sometimes do. If some people have to laugh to cope, they can go right ahead, but for many of us without professional detachment to lean on, it’s neither fun nor funny.

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