Comments on: Breaking up is hard to do http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/10/22/breaking-up-is-hard-to-do/ In defense of the sanctimonious women's studies set. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:34:52 +0000 hourly 1 By: evil fizz http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/10/22/breaking-up-is-hard-to-do/#comment-71132 evil fizz Mon, 23 Oct 2006 21:42:23 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/10/22/breaking-up-is-hard-to-do/#comment-71132 j0lt, thanks for the update. I'll have to have a look at that. j0lt, thanks for the update. I’ll have to have a look at that.

]]> By: Rex Little http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/10/22/breaking-up-is-hard-to-do/#comment-71077 Rex Little Mon, 23 Oct 2006 18:32:50 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/10/22/breaking-up-is-hard-to-do/#comment-71077 <em>Are there any high profile female officeholders who’ve had a publicized affair?</em> There's always <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_II_of_Russia" rel="nofollow">this one.</a> Are there any high profile female officeholders who’ve had a publicized affair?

There’s always this one.

]]> By: Lesley http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/10/22/breaking-up-is-hard-to-do/#comment-71043 Lesley Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:49:58 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/10/22/breaking-up-is-hard-to-do/#comment-71043 I think part of the issue with Jack Ryan was that Jeri Ryan had claimed that even though she had previously told him that she did not want to go to sex clubs and him promising he wouldn't take her again, he took her into a sex club in Paris without telling her what kind of club it was. Once they were in, she allegedly felt ill and started to cry. Rather than acting like a decent human being, he allegedly told her that crying wasn't a "turn on" for him. He denies that any of that ever happened, Personally, I believe her. At which point, I have to say I think the guy is scum, and I wouldn't want him representing my interests. If he treats his wife that way, how should I expect him to treat his constituents? I won't say that people's general squickiness about sex clubs didn't have a lot to do with his downfall. I do, however, think there are other reasons related to the scandal not to want this guy as your representative. I think part of the issue with Jack Ryan was that Jeri Ryan had claimed that even though she had previously told him that she did not want to go to sex clubs and him promising he wouldn’t take her again, he took her into a sex club in Paris without telling her what kind of club it was. Once they were in, she allegedly felt ill and started to cry. Rather than acting like a decent human being, he allegedly told her that crying wasn’t a “turn on” for him. He denies that any of that ever happened,

Personally, I believe her. At which point, I have to say I think the guy is scum, and I wouldn’t want him representing my interests. If he treats his wife that way, how should I expect him to treat his constituents?

I won’t say that people’s general squickiness about sex clubs didn’t have a lot to do with his downfall. I do, however, think there are other reasons related to the scandal not to want this guy as your representative.

]]> By: j0lt http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/10/22/breaking-up-is-hard-to-do/#comment-71039 j0lt Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:18:52 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/10/22/breaking-up-is-hard-to-do/#comment-71039 Arrgh. Sorry, not good at the linking here it is in "plain form": http://www.nowldef.org/html/njep/report.shtml#second Also, glad to see you ef. I've often enjoyed your comments here & elsewhere. Arrgh. Sorry, not good at the linking here it is in “plain form”:
http://www.nowldef.org/html/njep/report.shtml#second

Also, glad to see you ef. I’ve often enjoyed your comments here & elsewhere.

]]> By: j0lt http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/10/22/breaking-up-is-hard-to-do/#comment-71038 j0lt Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:09:25 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/10/22/breaking-up-is-hard-to-do/#comment-71038 FYI: The article you quoted is inaccurate in stating (based on the 2000 date line at the end of the snippet) that only the 9th Circuit had done a study on gender bias. Most, if not all of the Circuits did studies of gender bias in 1997/98. See <a href="http://www.nowldef.org/html/njep/report.shtml#second" rel="nofollow"> which lists the reports and the legal journals that published them. Sorry to note this side issue, but I know people who worked (very hard!) on these reports & find it bizarre that the article wouldn't be aware of all these that were completed published 2-3 years prior. Anyway, based on my knowledge of one Circuit's work, the findings were very similar re: discrimination based on public perceptions of gender roles, etc.</a> FYI: The article you quoted is inaccurate in stating (based on the 2000 date line at the end of the snippet) that only the 9th Circuit had done a study on gender bias. Most, if not all of the Circuits did studies of gender bias in 1997/98. See

which lists the reports and the legal journals that published them. Sorry to note this side issue, but I know people who worked (very hard!) on these reports & find it bizarre that the article wouldn’t be aware of all these that were completed published 2-3 years prior.

Anyway, based on my knowledge of one Circuit’s work, the findings were very similar re: discrimination based on public perceptions of gender roles, etc.

]]> By: evil fizz http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/10/22/breaking-up-is-hard-to-do/#comment-70956 evil fizz Mon, 23 Oct 2006 02:53:21 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/10/22/breaking-up-is-hard-to-do/#comment-70956 Well, if Sherwood did indeed choke (and not in a kinky way) his mistress, that would be a crime, but the settlement is confidential, so we'll likely never know that part. I think that talking about a candidate's sex life is fraught (and I'm generally not a fan of the strategy), but I think that when a candidate makes an issue of their own piousness, it becomes fair game. When it came out that Jack Ryan (Senate candidate in Illinois) <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/25/il.ryan/" rel="nofollow">had been urging his wife to go to sex clubs with him,</a> it ended his career. There was absolutely nothing else for people to talk about. I think that Ryan was only limited in his ability to get the job done insofar as there was no other topic of conversation. No one cared about his views on the economy. They just wanted to know what happened at that "avant garde club" in Paris. Well, if Sherwood did indeed choke (and not in a kinky way) his mistress, that would be a crime, but the settlement is confidential, so we’ll likely never know that part.

I think that talking about a candidate’s sex life is fraught (and I’m generally not a fan of the strategy), but I think that when a candidate makes an issue of their own piousness, it becomes fair game.

When it came out that Jack Ryan (Senate candidate in Illinois) had been urging his wife to go to sex clubs with him, it ended his career. There was absolutely nothing else for people to talk about. I think that Ryan was only limited in his ability to get the job done insofar as there was no other topic of conversation. No one cared about his views on the economy. They just wanted to know what happened at that “avant garde club” in Paris.

]]> By: belledame222 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/10/22/breaking-up-is-hard-to-do/#comment-70955 belledame222 Mon, 23 Oct 2006 02:48:50 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/10/22/breaking-up-is-hard-to-do/#comment-70955 hey evil fizz! really happy to see you here, crummy circumstances not withstanding. hey evil fizz! really happy to see you here, crummy circumstances not withstanding.

]]> By: Michael Hussey http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/10/22/breaking-up-is-hard-to-do/#comment-70950 Michael Hussey Mon, 23 Oct 2006 02:28:12 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/10/22/breaking-up-is-hard-to-do/#comment-70950 My attitude is that unless it's a crime (Mark Foley) or affects a candidate's ability to perform one's duties then it's a private matter. I'm not a Sherwood fan. There seems to be a morbid fascination with the sex lives of well-known people. It's the 21 century and people still haven't grown out of that. My attitude is that unless it’s a crime (Mark Foley) or affects a candidate’s ability to perform one’s duties then it’s a private matter. I’m not a Sherwood fan. There seems to be a morbid fascination with the sex lives of well-known people. It’s the 21 century and people still haven’t grown out of that.

]]> By: La Lubu http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/10/22/breaking-up-is-hard-to-do/#comment-70940 La Lubu Mon, 23 Oct 2006 00:29:45 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/10/22/breaking-up-is-hard-to-do/#comment-70940 <i>Are there any high profile female officeholders who’ve had a publicized affair? I couldn’t think of one.</i> Sue Myrick, Rep., NC. Are there any high profile female officeholders who’ve had a publicized affair? I couldn’t think of one.

Sue Myrick, Rep., NC.

]]> By: evil fizz http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/10/22/breaking-up-is-hard-to-do/#comment-70939 evil fizz Mon, 23 Oct 2006 00:10:56 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/10/22/breaking-up-is-hard-to-do/#comment-70939 Why thank you, Hugo! I'm quite flattered. Why thank you, Hugo! I’m quite flattered.

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