Comments on: Sexual Assault in the Streets of Egypt http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/11/01/sexual-assault-in-the-streets-of-egypt/ In defense of the sanctimonious women's studies set. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:14:04 +0000 hourly 1 By: Marwa Mostafa http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/11/01/sexual-assault-in-the-streets-of-egypt/#comment-73976 Marwa Mostafa Sun, 05 Nov 2006 10:39:21 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/11/01/sexual-assault-in-the-streets-of-egypt/#comment-73976 <strong>Well, I'm an Egyptian young woman and I'm shocked for this is the first time something horrible like this happens. Islam and Christianity are against this ... I can't help but say those who did this are below animals, I guess they make animals appear more human ... What could be the reason for this??? I'll tell you ... Harassments started in the streets of Egypt since the introduction of satellite channels with all its porn movies and obscene video clips ... Egyptians never been this way ... in the past women used to walk wearing mini-skirts and noone even tried to touch them ... I wish that we return to Allah the only God again ... and we'll never be lost ... May Allah help those poor women ... they'll never be the same ones they used to be before.</strong> Well, I’m an Egyptian young woman and I’m shocked for this is the first time something horrible like this happens. Islam and Christianity are against this … I can’t help but say those who did this are below animals, I guess they make animals appear more human … What could be the reason for this??? I’ll tell you … Harassments started in the streets of Egypt since the introduction of satellite channels with all its porn movies and obscene video clips … Egyptians never been this way … in the past women used to walk wearing mini-skirts and noone even tried to touch them … I wish that we return to Allah the only God again … and we’ll never be lost … May Allah help those poor women … they’ll never be the same ones they used to be before.

]]> By: twf http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/11/01/sexual-assault-in-the-streets-of-egypt/#comment-73666 twf Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:32:45 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/11/01/sexual-assault-in-the-streets-of-egypt/#comment-73666 The article quoted in the link was quite creepy. <blockquote>, I can't understand) led them to not even distinguish between a veiled girl and an unveiled girl, or even a munaqaba girl (face veiled). Repression and a severe sexual frenzy made them unable to make any distinctions. </blockquote> What???? Which ones were more <em>deserving </em>of being sexually assaulted? <blockquote> I don't know who to blame for what I saw. The hysterical girls in the street in front of me? Do I blame the sexually frenzied young men, </blockquote> Is it really <em>that</em> hard to pick between these two targets of blame? I know no one on this site thinks this dude has a clue or anything, and Regina mentioned it above, but I just had to repeat it as it was so disgusting. The article quoted in the link was quite creepy.

, I can’t understand) led them to not even distinguish between a veiled girl and an unveiled girl, or even a munaqaba girl (face veiled). Repression and a severe sexual frenzy made them unable to make any distinctions.

What???? Which ones were more deserving of being sexually assaulted?

I don’t know who to blame for what I saw. The hysterical girls in the street in front of me? Do I blame the sexually frenzied young men,

Is it really that hard to pick between these two targets of blame?

I know no one on this site thinks this dude has a clue or anything, and Regina mentioned it above, but I just had to repeat it as it was so disgusting.

]]> By: evil fizz http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/11/01/sexual-assault-in-the-streets-of-egypt/#comment-73591 evil fizz Thu, 02 Nov 2006 12:53:57 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/11/01/sexual-assault-in-the-streets-of-egypt/#comment-73591 <blockquote>The study never said porn alleviates misogyny.</blockquote> Ah yes, but the Slate article did.

The study never said porn alleviates misogyny.

Ah yes, but the Slate article did.

]]> By: Lesley http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/11/01/sexual-assault-in-the-streets-of-egypt/#comment-73584 Lesley Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:30:57 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/11/01/sexual-assault-in-the-streets-of-egypt/#comment-73584 BTW, I'm not suggesting we should try to alleviate the human excitability through technology. Government programs to try to reduce emotions sound to me like a hideously bad idea. I'm just theorizing about the actual direct causes of the recessions. BTW, I’m not suggesting we should try to alleviate the human excitability through technology. Government programs to try to reduce emotions sound to me like a hideously bad idea. I’m just theorizing about the actual direct causes of the recessions.

]]> By: Lesley http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/11/01/sexual-assault-in-the-streets-of-egypt/#comment-73583 Lesley Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:29:10 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/11/01/sexual-assault-in-the-streets-of-egypt/#comment-73583 <blockquote>A good analogy of that is that education makes your richer and more liberal, but wealth is strongly positively correlated with conservatism.</blockquote> Yes, but that's because even a strong positive correlation does not equal causation. It would make it a good predictor (e.g., if someone is wealthy, there's a good chance they are conservative), but the reasons for their conservatism may be caused by another factor that is related to the wealth. For example, inherited wealth. A good example of that would be sunspots and recessionary economic cycles. There is a strong positive correlation between them, but how many of us believe that sunspots directly cause the recessions? And why don't we believe it? Because it seems idiotic on its face, despite the strong positive correlation. It seems far more likely to us that there is some other factor related to the sunspots that cause the recession (droughts and/or human excitability). If we could alleviate the droughts or the human excitability through technology, we might do away with the recessions, even though the sunspots would continue.

A good analogy of that is that education makes your richer and more liberal, but wealth is strongly positively correlated with conservatism.

Yes, but that’s because even a strong positive correlation does not equal causation. It would make it a good predictor (e.g., if someone is wealthy, there’s a good chance they are conservative), but the reasons for their conservatism may be caused by another factor that is related to the wealth. For example, inherited wealth.

A good example of that would be sunspots and recessionary economic cycles. There is a strong positive correlation between them, but how many of us believe that sunspots directly cause the recessions? And why don’t we believe it? Because it seems idiotic on its face, despite the strong positive correlation. It seems far more likely to us that there is some other factor related to the sunspots that cause the recession (droughts and/or human excitability). If we could alleviate the droughts or the human excitability through technology, we might do away with the recessions, even though the sunspots would continue.

]]> By: Alon Levy http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/11/01/sexual-assault-in-the-streets-of-egypt/#comment-73559 Alon Levy Thu, 02 Nov 2006 04:17:00 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/11/01/sexual-assault-in-the-streets-of-egypt/#comment-73559 My main problem with the "Oh, it's obviously wrong" criticism is that it brings fresh memories of Michelle Malkin saying in response to the Lancet study something like "I know it's wrong. Math people, can you help?". The study never said porn alleviates misogyny. It said it alleviates rape. Even if porn increases misogyny, it doesn't mean it can't reduce rape. A good analogy of that is that education makes your richer and more liberal, but wealth is strongly positively correlated with conservatism. My main problem with the “Oh, it’s obviously wrong” criticism is that it brings fresh memories of Michelle Malkin saying in response to the Lancet study something like “I know it’s wrong. Math people, can you help?”.

The study never said porn alleviates misogyny. It said it alleviates rape. Even if porn increases misogyny, it doesn’t mean it can’t reduce rape. A good analogy of that is that education makes your richer and more liberal, but wealth is strongly positively correlated with conservatism.

]]> By: JackGoff http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/11/01/sexual-assault-in-the-streets-of-egypt/#comment-73557 JackGoff Thu, 02 Nov 2006 03:35:09 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/11/01/sexual-assault-in-the-streets-of-egypt/#comment-73557 <i>if masturbating to porn alleviates misogyny</i> Ha! if masturbating to porn alleviates misogyny

Ha!

]]> By: evil fizz http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/11/01/sexual-assault-in-the-streets-of-egypt/#comment-73556 evil fizz Thu, 02 Nov 2006 03:13:22 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/11/01/sexual-assault-in-the-streets-of-egypt/#comment-73556 Well, if masturbating to porn alleviates misogyny, the world should be a very different place than it is currently. I'd say that's sound, even lacking regression analysis. /threadjack Well, if masturbating to porn alleviates misogyny, the world should be a very different place than it is currently. I’d say that’s sound, even lacking regression analysis.

/threadjack

]]> By: jt http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/11/01/sexual-assault-in-the-streets-of-egypt/#comment-73552 jt Thu, 02 Nov 2006 03:00:45 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/11/01/sexual-assault-in-the-streets-of-egypt/#comment-73552 <blockquote>Alon, are you saying that the only acceptable grounds for objecting to a study is methodology?</blockquote> I think he's simply saying that if you're going to criticize the claimed results of a study, you ought to have sound reasons other than those results not fitting into your ideology.

Alon, are you saying that the only acceptable grounds for objecting to a study is methodology?

I think he’s simply saying that if you’re going to criticize the claimed results of a study, you ought to have sound reasons other than those results not fitting into your ideology.

]]> By: saqi namah http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/11/01/sexual-assault-in-the-streets-of-egypt/#comment-73548 saqi namah Thu, 02 Nov 2006 02:48:42 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/11/01/sexual-assault-in-the-streets-of-egypt/#comment-73548 This is such a sad state of affairs. It seems that the Egyptians need to take care of this "mob" problem. The best form of control is self control. If only these people in the mob could be taught self-control. This is such a sad state of affairs. It seems that the Egyptians need to take care of this “mob” problem. The best form of control is self control. If only these people in the mob could be taught self-control.

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