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	<title>Comments on: Evangelical leader quits, denies affair with male prostitute</title>
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		<title>By: Bitter Scribe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bitter Scribe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve tried, really tried, to work up some good schadenfreude over this, but I just can&#039;t.

It&#039;s just really sad and pathetic that an entirely understandable human urge like this should be such a source of shame in this man&#039;s life. What&#039;s really sad is that the people he preaches to will learn absolutely nothing from this experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve tried, really tried, to work up some good schadenfreude over this, but I just can&#8217;t.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just really sad and pathetic that an entirely understandable human urge like this should be such a source of shame in this man&#8217;s life. What&#8217;s really sad is that the people he preaches to will learn absolutely nothing from this experience.</p>
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		<title>By: belledame222</title>
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		<dc:creator>belledame222</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 04:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeesh.  if i were the wife, first thing, i&#039;d be running for testing.  closet-case + fucking around for years + METH = real bad news.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeesh.  if i were the wife, first thing, i&#8217;d be running for testing.  closet-case + fucking around for years + METH = real bad news.</p>
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		<title>By: B.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>B.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 23:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And what sort of concierge recommends an unlicensed massage therapist who also is a prostitute? Someone at the Hilton? I think not...

I&#039;ll bet the massage was from a naked man and it went on from there...apparently once a month for 3 years. Others have noted that crystal meth is sometimes used to enhance the experience for a bottom. Now, why did he buy the meth again? And again? And..?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what sort of concierge recommends an unlicensed massage therapist who also is a prostitute? Someone at the Hilton? I think not&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll bet the massage was from a naked man and it went on from there&#8230;apparently once a month for 3 years. Others have noted that crystal meth is sometimes used to enhance the experience for a bottom. Now, why did he buy the meth again? And again? And..?</p>
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		<title>By: June</title>
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		<dc:creator>June</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 23:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, earlier in the week, he denied even knowing his accuser - so perhaps there will be further revisions to his admission.

And, he&#039;s probably defining sex as something that happens between men and women.  Whereas men and men have - a massage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, earlier in the week, he denied even knowing his accuser &#8211; so perhaps there will be further revisions to his admission.</p>
<p>And, he&#8217;s probably defining sex as something that happens between men and women.  Whereas men and men have &#8211; a massage.</p>
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		<title>By: little light</title>
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		<dc:creator>little light</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 21:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>raging red:  maybe he didn&#039;t inhale?

Seriously, though, you don&#039;t leave messages for a prostitute under an assumed name for a legal, hotel-recommended massage.  And you don&#039;t buy meth for three years just to look at it, be tempted, and not touch the stuff.
Then again, you also don&#039;t resign if it&#039;s untrue.

As an aside, &quot;Soldiers of God&quot; is an incredible piece of investigative ethnography.  I love Sharlet&#039;s work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>raging red:  maybe he didn&#8217;t inhale?</p>
<p>Seriously, though, you don&#8217;t leave messages for a prostitute under an assumed name for a legal, hotel-recommended massage.  And you don&#8217;t buy meth for three years just to look at it, be tempted, and not touch the stuff.<br />
Then again, you also don&#8217;t resign if it&#8217;s untrue.</p>
<p>As an aside, &#8220;Soldiers of God&#8221; is an incredible piece of investigative ethnography.  I love Sharlet&#8217;s work.</p>
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		<title>By: Regina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 21:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;“I was buying it for me, but I never used it. I was tempted. …

“He told me about it. I went there for a massage.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I love it.  &quot;I just went there for a happy ending, and then I bought some meth from him, and then on the way home I changed my mind and threw it away... HONEST!&quot;

Yeesh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“I was buying it for me, but I never used it. I was tempted. …</p>
<p>“He told me about it. I went there for a massage.”</p></blockquote>
<p>I love it.  &#8220;I just went there for a happy ending, and then I bought some meth from him, and then on the way home I changed my mind and threw it away&#8230; HONEST!&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeesh.</p>
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		<title>By: raging red</title>
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		<dc:creator>raging red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 20:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/03/haggard.allegations/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Haggard admits to buying meth, but says that he didn&#039;t use it.
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&lt;blockquote&gt;Haggard told CNN affiliate KUSA-TV on Friday that he received Jones&#039; name as &quot;a referral&quot; from a hotel where he was staying in Denver.

He did not name the hotel. &quot;I did call him,&quot; Haggard said. &quot;I called him to buy some meth, but I threw it away.&quot;

Haggard spoke to the Denver TV station from inside a car, with his wife, Gayle, in the passenger seat.

&quot;I was buying it for me, but I never used it. I was tempted. ...

&quot;He told me about it. I went there for a massage.&quot;

Asked whether Haggard&#039;s admission of knowing him was a vindication, Jones replied, &quot;Thank you. Exactly.&quot; &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Haggard&#039;s not a very good liar. As I see it, he has basically admitted to using meth.  Does anyone believe that someone who has never used meth would call up a drug dealer, buy some meth, and be &quot;tempted&quot; to use it?  Does someone who is not a drug user just think one day: &quot;You know, I&#039;d like to try heroin&quot; and then know how to go about contacting someone to buy some?  Yeah, right.

Also, is Haggard aware that &quot;getting a massage&quot; is commonly known to be a euphemism for visiting a prostitute?  Dude, you&#039;re caught.  You might as well start telling the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/03/haggard.allegations/index.html" rel="nofollow">Haggard admits to buying meth, but says that he didn&#8217;t use it.<br />
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<blockquote><p>Haggard told CNN affiliate KUSA-TV on Friday that he received Jones&#8217; name as &#8220;a referral&#8221; from a hotel where he was staying in Denver.</p>
<p>He did not name the hotel. &#8220;I did call him,&#8221; Haggard said. &#8220;I called him to buy some meth, but I threw it away.&#8221;</p>
<p>Haggard spoke to the Denver TV station from inside a car, with his wife, Gayle, in the passenger seat.</p>
<p>&#8220;I was buying it for me, but I never used it. I was tempted. &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;He told me about it. I went there for a massage.&#8221;</p>
<p>Asked whether Haggard&#8217;s admission of knowing him was a vindication, Jones replied, &#8220;Thank you. Exactly.&#8221; </p></blockquote>
<p>Haggard&#8217;s not a very good liar. As I see it, he has basically admitted to using meth.  Does anyone believe that someone who has never used meth would call up a drug dealer, buy some meth, and be &#8220;tempted&#8221; to use it?  Does someone who is not a drug user just think one day: &#8220;You know, I&#8217;d like to try heroin&#8221; and then know how to go about contacting someone to buy some?  Yeah, right.</p>
<p>Also, is Haggard aware that &#8220;getting a massage&#8221; is commonly known to be a euphemism for visiting a prostitute?  Dude, you&#8217;re caught.  You might as well start telling the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: chai</title>
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		<dc:creator>chai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 19:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is an amazing story.  again, we have another alleged close to god person telling us not to do these things because jesus wouldn&#039;t want us to, and then behind our backs, buys drugs!  i truly don&#039;t understand how evangelicals would NOT be outraged by this behavior.  i am outraged and i&#039;m not an evangelical christian.  it&#039;s so sad to see people preach hate and one standard of life and then do something completely opposite.

the sad part is that our society forgives and forgets so easily, without thinking why.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is an amazing story.  again, we have another alleged close to god person telling us not to do these things because jesus wouldn&#8217;t want us to, and then behind our backs, buys drugs!  i truly don&#8217;t understand how evangelicals would NOT be outraged by this behavior.  i am outraged and i&#8217;m not an evangelical christian.  it&#8217;s so sad to see people preach hate and one standard of life and then do something completely opposite.</p>
<p>the sad part is that our society forgives and forgets so easily, without thinking why.</p>
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		<title>By: piny</title>
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		<dc:creator>piny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 18:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;srl, you can see the artwork mentioned in the link below…some of it is quite homoerotic:&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And how!  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>srl, you can see the artwork mentioned in the link below…some of it is quite homoerotic:</p></blockquote>
<p>And how!</p>
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		<title>By: B.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>B.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 18:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>srl, you can see the artwork mentioned in the link below...some of it is quite homoerotic:

http://www.thestranger.com/blog/files/2006/11/homoart.1.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>srl, you can see the artwork mentioned in the link below&#8230;some of it is quite homoerotic:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thestranger.com/blog/files/2006/11/homoart.1.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.thestranger.com/blog/files/2006/11/homoart.1.php</a></p>
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