Comments on: Dawn Eden: Nasty Little Piece of Work http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/12/23/dawn-eden-nasty-little-piece-of-work/ In defense of the sanctimonious women's studies set. Sat, 20 Mar 2010 21:55:38 +0000 hourly 1 By: Red Stapler http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/12/23/dawn-eden-nasty-little-piece-of-work/#comment-80009 Red Stapler Thu, 28 Dec 2006 20:03:15 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/12/23/dawn-eden-nasty-little-piece-of-work/#comment-80009 ::eyeroll:: The more I hear about this chick, the more I have to restrain myself from even talking to her. (I'm friendly with people in one of her social circles.) And Zuzu, if Raving Atheist is who I think it is, I can say for certain she's not seeing him. ::eyeroll::

The more I hear about this chick, the more I have to restrain myself from even talking to her. (I’m friendly with people in one of her social circles.)

And Zuzu, if Raving Atheist is who I think it is, I can say for certain she’s not seeing him.

]]> By: OldBag http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/12/23/dawn-eden-nasty-little-piece-of-work/#comment-79993 OldBag Thu, 28 Dec 2006 18:05:20 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/12/23/dawn-eden-nasty-little-piece-of-work/#comment-79993 Someone needs to tell this silly Dawn creature that when she gets hitched, her memories of boinking rockstars might end up being the only thing that gets her off after few years of basking in a "moral" marriage. Someone needs to tell this silly Dawn creature that when she gets hitched, her memories of boinking rockstars might end up being the only thing that gets her off after few years of basking in a “moral” marriage.

]]> By: Lauren http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/12/23/dawn-eden-nasty-little-piece-of-work/#comment-79949 Lauren Thu, 28 Dec 2006 04:21:49 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/12/23/dawn-eden-nasty-little-piece-of-work/#comment-79949 Nevermind. It's my problem. Nevermind. It’s my problem.

]]> By: Lauren http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/12/23/dawn-eden-nasty-little-piece-of-work/#comment-79948 Lauren Thu, 28 Dec 2006 04:21:29 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/12/23/dawn-eden-nasty-little-piece-of-work/#comment-79948 Wait, what happened to the post? Wait, what happened to the post?

]]> By: Em http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/12/23/dawn-eden-nasty-little-piece-of-work/#comment-79851 Em Wed, 27 Dec 2006 16:43:49 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/12/23/dawn-eden-nasty-little-piece-of-work/#comment-79851 No, no, no, raincitygirl. Dawn claims to be chaste, which within the Catholic Church means that she does not masturbate. The Catechism calls masturbation self-abuse. It is wasting your gift of sexuality (read: fertility) in a situation that does not have the potential for procreation. Although, to be fair, since female masturbation does not spill any eggs, I am unable to reconcile the Church's position against it other than through prohibitions on sexual fantasies and a general but nondogmatic distaste for sexually-connected physical pleasure. No, no, no, raincitygirl. Dawn claims to be chaste, which within the Catholic Church means that she does not masturbate. The Catechism calls masturbation self-abuse. It is wasting your gift of sexuality (read: fertility) in a situation that does not have the potential for procreation. Although, to be fair, since female masturbation does not spill any eggs, I am unable to reconcile the Church’s position against it other than through prohibitions on sexual fantasies and a general but nondogmatic distaste for sexually-connected physical pleasure.

]]> By: Raincitygirl http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/12/23/dawn-eden-nasty-little-piece-of-work/#comment-79792 Raincitygirl Tue, 26 Dec 2006 20:40:52 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/12/23/dawn-eden-nasty-little-piece-of-work/#comment-79792 Okay, I say we take up a collection and purchase Ms. Eden a good-quality vibrator. She doesn't sound like she's had much GOOD sex with other people (possibly not surprising, given the probability of drummers being drunk or not very worried about their casual sex partner's pleasure). She needs to have some good sex with herself, and maybe she won't be so miserable. And hey, she'll still count as chaste. There's nobody else in the bed (bathtub?) with her, after all. And the lack of a partner means she doesn't have to worry about a guy using her for sex or her using the sex to convince herself she's attractive to men, as opposed to just because she's horny. An orgasm a day keeps the life-altering insecurity away. Maybe. Hey, it's worth a shot. Even a top-of-the-line vibrator is less expensive than therapy. Okay, I say we take up a collection and purchase Ms. Eden a good-quality vibrator. She doesn’t sound like she’s had much GOOD sex with other people (possibly not surprising, given the probability of drummers being drunk or not very worried about their casual sex partner’s pleasure). She needs to have some good sex with herself, and maybe she won’t be so miserable. And hey, she’ll still count as chaste. There’s nobody else in the bed (bathtub?) with her, after all. And the lack of a partner means she doesn’t have to worry about a guy using her for sex or her using the sex to convince herself she’s attractive to men, as opposed to just because she’s horny. An orgasm a day keeps the life-altering insecurity away. Maybe. Hey, it’s worth a shot. Even a top-of-the-line vibrator is less expensive than therapy.

]]> By: Lorelei http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/12/23/dawn-eden-nasty-little-piece-of-work/#comment-79768 Lorelei Tue, 26 Dec 2006 09:13:08 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/12/23/dawn-eden-nasty-little-piece-of-work/#comment-79768 Lynn, you are right -- what I was trying more to say is that she seems to think that sex is INHERENTLY special, as if it's an intrinsic quality about the activity or something. I should try the whole 'articulate' thing. :P Lynn, you are right — what I was trying more to say is that she seems to think that sex is INHERENTLY special, as if it’s an intrinsic quality about the activity or something.

I should try the whole ‘articulate’ thing. :P

]]> By: Lynn Gazis-Sax http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/12/23/dawn-eden-nasty-little-piece-of-work/#comment-79754 Lynn Gazis-Sax Tue, 26 Dec 2006 02:37:34 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/12/23/dawn-eden-nasty-little-piece-of-work/#comment-79754 <em>I think Dawn Eden’s biggest mistake in all this is thinking that sex is ’special.’</em> I wouldn't put it that way. That makes it sound as if having lots of emotions tied to sex, and preferring it with someone you know and trust and care about, is in itself sex-negative, or somehow overly restricting yourself and denying yourself the real pleasures of sex. And it's not, really; sex as tied to special relationships is a normal, natural, and even hot and fun approach to sex. Just because someone finds sex special doesn't mean she has to feel that fantasizing about having <em>sex</em> with that special guy is somehow inherently worse than fantasizing about marrying him. Or that she'd see sex with that special guy as something she gives him in return for commitment (any more than you're giving sex in return for good looks if you prefer sex only with someone you find sufficiently physically attractive). Finding sex special is entirely compatible with enjoying sex and owning your own sex drive, IMHO. I think Dawn Eden’s biggest mistake in all this is thinking that sex is ’special.’

I wouldn’t put it that way. That makes it sound as if having lots of emotions tied to sex, and preferring it with someone you know and trust and care about, is in itself sex-negative, or somehow overly restricting yourself and denying yourself the real pleasures of sex. And it’s not, really; sex as tied to special relationships is a normal, natural, and even hot and fun approach to sex. Just because someone finds sex special doesn’t mean she has to feel that fantasizing about having sex with that special guy is somehow inherently worse than fantasizing about marrying him. Or that she’d see sex with that special guy as something she gives him in return for commitment (any more than you’re giving sex in return for good looks if you prefer sex only with someone you find sufficiently physically attractive). Finding sex special is entirely compatible with enjoying sex and owning your own sex drive, IMHO.

]]> By: Lorelei http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/12/23/dawn-eden-nasty-little-piece-of-work/#comment-79748 Lorelei Mon, 25 Dec 2006 22:23:32 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/12/23/dawn-eden-nasty-little-piece-of-work/#comment-79748 I think Dawn Eden's biggest mistake in all this is thinking that sex is 'special.' That's where most people like her get it wrong. I think Dawn Eden’s biggest mistake in all this is thinking that sex is ’special.’ That’s where most people like her get it wrong.

]]> By: Lorelei http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/12/23/dawn-eden-nasty-little-piece-of-work/#comment-79747 Lorelei Mon, 25 Dec 2006 22:21:41 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/12/23/dawn-eden-nasty-little-piece-of-work/#comment-79747 <blockquote>I frankly think Dawn doesn’t much like sex to begin with (and of course one has to wonder if she’s ever actually had *good* sex)</blockquote> Hell, sex bores me to tears on a lot of levels, but I'm not as fucked in the head as Dawn Eden. She's really just an asshole. :\

I frankly think Dawn doesn’t much like sex to begin with (and of course one has to wonder if she’s ever actually had *good* sex)

Hell, sex bores me to tears on a lot of levels, but I’m not as fucked in the head as Dawn Eden.

She’s really just an asshole. :\

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