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	<title>Comments on: Iranian women taking charge to secure their rights</title>
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	<description>In defense of the sanctimonious women&#039;s studies set.</description>
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		<title>By: Galloise Blonde</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/12/26/iranian-women-taking-charge-to-secure-their-rights/#comment-79961</link>
		<dc:creator>Galloise Blonde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 08:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought everyone knew about Atefeh Rajabi. The BBC did an absolutely &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ikwro.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=42&amp;Itemid=2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;heart-rending documentary&lt;/a&gt; on the case. Don&#039;t watch it unless you like angry crying.

Lily&#039;s site is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.herearth.com/index.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; but it is allergic to Firefox.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought everyone knew about Atefeh Rajabi. The BBC did an absolutely <a href="http://www.ikwro.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=42&amp;Itemid=2" rel="nofollow">heart-rending documentary</a> on the case. Don&#8217;t watch it unless you like angry crying.</p>
<p>Lily&#8217;s site is <a href="http://www.herearth.com/index.htm" rel="nofollow">here</a> but it is allergic to Firefox.</p>
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		<title>By: Fauzia</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/12/26/iranian-women-taking-charge-to-secure-their-rights/#comment-79909</link>
		<dc:creator>Fauzia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 02:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*Lily&#039;s Speech (Atefeh&#039;s story) whoops. sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Lily&#8217;s Speech (Atefeh&#8217;s story) whoops. sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Fauzia</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/12/26/iranian-women-taking-charge-to-secure-their-rights/#comment-79902</link>
		<dc:creator>Fauzia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 00:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jane,

I&#039;m not sure if I&#039;m following your post correctly or not.

But:
Just because a Muslim woman in particular country &quot;follows&quot; the practices that are often times, in fact, I might go as far to say, almost all the time, IMPOSED, does not, in any way shape or form, mean that those women SUPPORT those practices.

Perhaps Atefeh&#039;s point, in her speech, was to give one example of many girls and women who are victims of the same ridiculous &quot;Islamic&quot; punishments.  It&#039;s not often that we (in the West, Muslims and non-Muslims) get to hear about stories like this.  

Jill&#039;s point about women in majority-Muslim nations not being silent is extremely important.  These women are NOT silent. 

Another important read is Shirin Ebadi&#039;s &lt;em&gt;Iran Awakening: A Memoir of Revolution and Hope.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if I&#8217;m following your post correctly or not.</p>
<p>But:<br />
Just because a Muslim woman in particular country &#8220;follows&#8221; the practices that are often times, in fact, I might go as far to say, almost all the time, IMPOSED, does not, in any way shape or form, mean that those women SUPPORT those practices.</p>
<p>Perhaps Atefeh&#8217;s point, in her speech, was to give one example of many girls and women who are victims of the same ridiculous &#8220;Islamic&#8221; punishments.  It&#8217;s not often that we (in the West, Muslims and non-Muslims) get to hear about stories like this.  </p>
<p>Jill&#8217;s point about women in majority-Muslim nations not being silent is extremely important.  These women are NOT silent. </p>
<p>Another important read is Shirin Ebadi&#8217;s <em>Iran Awakening: A Memoir of Revolution and Hope.</em></p>
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		<title>By: jennie</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/12/26/iranian-women-taking-charge-to-secure-their-rights/#comment-79897</link>
		<dc:creator>jennie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2006 23:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jane, who says a link to a speech is about &lt;i&gt;proving&lt;/i&gt; anything. Can it not &lt;i&gt;illustrate&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;inform&lt;/i&gt;, or simply &lt;i&gt;communicate&lt;/i&gt;? 
As far as I can see, Jill didn&#039;t propose a thesis in this post, she simply posted an example of human-rights activism by a Persian-American activist. 

If you read the speech, you might have noticed that Ms. Mazahery talks about reading women&#039;s blogs, in Farsi, from Iran—these women&#039;s views and experiences, which the Iranian power structure would have us believe don&#039;t exist, are reaching a wider audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane, who says a link to a speech is about <i>proving</i> anything. Can it not <i>illustrate</i>, <i>inform</i>, or simply <i>communicate</i>?<br />
As far as I can see, Jill didn&#8217;t propose a thesis in this post, she simply posted an example of human-rights activism by a Persian-American activist. </p>
<p>If you read the speech, you might have noticed that Ms. Mazahery talks about reading women&#8217;s blogs, in Farsi, from Iran—these women&#8217;s views and experiences, which the Iranian power structure would have us believe don&#8217;t exist, are reaching a wider audience.</p>
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		<title>By: Bitter Scribe</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/12/26/iranian-women-taking-charge-to-secure-their-rights/#comment-79893</link>
		<dc:creator>Bitter Scribe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2006 22:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mohammad on a stick. These people are freaking INSANE. And they&#039;re going to have nuclear arms (or maybe have them already)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mohammad on a stick. These people are freaking INSANE. And they&#8217;re going to have nuclear arms (or maybe have them already)?</p>
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		<title>By: JackGoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>JackGoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2006 22:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amanda, that punishment is too lenient in my estimation.  They need to gnaw on his entire misogynist body for eternity a la Prometheus in order for the punishment to be equitable.  And this:

&lt;i&gt;Animals are slaughtered more humanely than this&lt;/i&gt;

Made me so fucking angry that words were impossible for me for a few minutes.  I wish that piece of fecal matter was here now and his throat was in my hands, slowly being crushed.  And this is coming from a pacifist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amanda, that punishment is too lenient in my estimation.  They need to gnaw on his entire misogynist body for eternity a la Prometheus in order for the punishment to be equitable.  And this:</p>
<p><i>Animals are slaughtered more humanely than this</i></p>
<p>Made me so fucking angry that words were impossible for me for a few minutes.  I wish that piece of fecal matter was here now and his throat was in my hands, slowly being crushed.  And this is coming from a pacifist.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda Marcotte</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/12/26/iranian-women-taking-charge-to-secure-their-rights/#comment-79883</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda Marcotte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2006 21:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope that judge dies by having rats slowly gnaw his testicles off.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope that judge dies by having rats slowly gnaw his testicles off.</p>
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		<title>By: Galloise Blonde</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/12/26/iranian-women-taking-charge-to-secure-their-rights/#comment-79832</link>
		<dc:creator>Galloise Blonde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2006 12:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lily is a friend of mine: she&#039;s absolutely wonderful and her speech was excellent (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ikwro.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=73&amp;Itemid=2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this version&lt;/a&gt; has all the original links in it), but she&#039;s actually Persian-American and lives in Washington where she runs the Legal Rights Institute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lily is a friend of mine: she&#8217;s absolutely wonderful and her speech was excellent (<a href="http://www.ikwro.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=73&amp;Itemid=2" rel="nofollow">this version</a> has all the original links in it), but she&#8217;s actually Persian-American and lives in Washington where she runs the Legal Rights Institute.</p>
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		<title>By: jane</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/12/26/iranian-women-taking-charge-to-secure-their-rights/#comment-79801</link>
		<dc:creator>jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2006 00:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does one case prove? The majority of women in Islamic countries practice their religion quite faithfully, in its regional variants. They are the supporters of some practices that you, I guess, would consider sexist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does one case prove? The majority of women in Islamic countries practice their religion quite faithfully, in its regional variants. They are the supporters of some practices that you, I guess, would consider sexist.</p>
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