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	<description>In defense of the sanctimonious women&#039;s studies set.</description>
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		<title>By: Chicklet</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/02/10/from-the-department-of-non-apologies/#comment-88201</link>
		<dc:creator>Chicklet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 23:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rowan, especially, hasn&#039;t learned a thing. He&#039;s being attacked from all sides - local/state/national media, students, alumni - and he&#039;s fighting like a rabid chihuahua to hold onto his fiefdom and his delusions of grandeur.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rowan, especially, hasn&#8217;t learned a thing. He&#8217;s being attacked from all sides &#8211; local/state/national media, students, alumni &#8211; and he&#8217;s fighting like a rabid chihuahua to hold onto his fiefdom and his delusions of grandeur.</p>
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		<title>By: Tobes</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/02/10/from-the-department-of-non-apologies/#comment-88200</link>
		<dc:creator>Tobes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 23:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just FYI. I’m in the facebook group “Petition against “Rape only hurts if you fight it” and John Petroski made the following comment about his decision to march in &quot;walk a mile in her shoes&quot;:

“For the record, I&#039;m actually participating in the march because it&#039;s a chance to get in some high heels. I&#039;m sexy like that.&quot;


Is there a really good comeback I could zing him with perhaps? This little boy just doesn’t learn. 
~tobestalks.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just FYI. I’m in the facebook group “Petition against “Rape only hurts if you fight it” and John Petroski made the following comment about his decision to march in &#8220;walk a mile in her shoes&#8221;:</p>
<p>“For the record, I&#8217;m actually participating in the march because it&#8217;s a chance to get in some high heels. I&#8217;m sexy like that.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is there a really good comeback I could zing him with perhaps? This little boy just doesn’t learn.<br />
~tobestalks.blogspot.com</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/02/10/from-the-department-of-non-apologies/#comment-87931</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 03:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The advisers are full of it. To say that if they were asked to resigned, they&#039;d have &quot;one less headache&quot;? Then resign, and quit your bitching! An adviser ALWAYS has the power to fire an EiC. It&#039;s extremely rare, but in a case like this, it&#039;s more than justified. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The advisers are full of it. To say that if they were asked to resigned, they&#8217;d have &#8220;one less headache&#8221;? Then resign, and quit your bitching! An adviser ALWAYS has the power to fire an EiC. It&#8217;s extremely rare, but in a case like this, it&#8217;s more than justified.</p>
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		<title>By: Daisy</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/02/10/from-the-department-of-non-apologies/#comment-87720</link>
		<dc:creator>Daisy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 15:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Joy, for mentioning the animal rights bit.  I mean, does he think PETA and other animal rights groups are likely to be any less furious over a similar article written about puppy mills or animal testing?  That just goes to show how his apology is meaningless because he doesn&#039;t understand why people are upset.  

The idiots are everywhere.  We must be vigilant.  

Just to be clear, I&#039;m not saying puppy mills are a horror equal to rape.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Joy, for mentioning the animal rights bit.  I mean, does he think PETA and other animal rights groups are likely to be any less furious over a similar article written about puppy mills or animal testing?  That just goes to show how his apology is meaningless because he doesn&#8217;t understand why people are upset.  </p>
<p>The idiots are everywhere.  We must be vigilant.  </p>
<p>Just to be clear, I&#8217;m not saying puppy mills are a horror equal to rape.</p>
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		<title>By: Chicklet</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/02/10/from-the-department-of-non-apologies/#comment-87694</link>
		<dc:creator>Chicklet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 13:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Petroski apologizes; Rowan remains a smug, arrogant, self-important shithead:

http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=17843074&amp;BRD=1641&amp;PAG=461&amp;dept_id=10109&amp;rfi=6

Advisors speak out (the photo of Rowan accompanying it is priceless):

http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=17843082&amp;BRD=1641&amp;PAG=461&amp;dept_id=595283&amp;rfi=6</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Petroski apologizes; Rowan remains a smug, arrogant, self-important shithead:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=17843074&amp;BRD=1641&amp;PAG=461&amp;dept_id=10109&amp;rfi=6" rel="nofollow">http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=17843074&amp;BRD=1641&amp;PAG=461&amp;dept_id=10109&amp;rfi=6</a></p>
<p>Advisors speak out (the photo of Rowan accompanying it is priceless):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=17843082&amp;BRD=1641&amp;PAG=461&amp;dept_id=595283&amp;rfi=6" rel="nofollow">http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=17843082&amp;BRD=1641&amp;PAG=461&amp;dept_id=595283&amp;rfi=6</a></p>
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		<title>By: ginmar</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/02/10/from-the-department-of-non-apologies/#comment-87693</link>
		<dc:creator>ginmar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 12:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>  Somebody actually compared Petroski&#039;s &#039;satire&#039; to a Benjamin Franklin piece on farting.  LIke, you know, they&#039;re equivalent.  Petroski speaks for more people than I like to acknowledge.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somebody actually compared Petroski&#8217;s &#8217;satire&#8217; to a Benjamin Franklin piece on farting.  LIke, you know, they&#8217;re equivalent.  Petroski speaks for more people than I like to acknowledge.</p>
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		<title>By: @ CCSU</title>
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		<dc:creator>@ CCSU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 02:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem rests with these morons, that&#039;s true. And they should be hung out to dry for this garbage. I heard on campus (I&#039;m at CCSU) that Petroski was resigned -- i.e., voted off the editorial board, although he, like any other student, can write for the paper. Rowan refuses to resign -- he &quot;sees the light&quot;. Great. 

Here&#039;s the thing -- why aren&#039;t others stepping up to the plate here? Did this happen in a vacuum? Hardly! Yet his advisors -- neither of whom have met this Petroski kid until TODAY -- won&#039;t acknowledge that they failed to advise and teach him or anyone else at the paper. But what else is a student paper but a place to learn about journalism -- its freedoms and its limitations? Some serious pressure needs to go to these people -- Their names are Sue Sweeney, who is the director of Student Activities and Leadership Development -- her email is sweeney@ccsu.edu. Vivian Martin is the faculty advisor to the paper -- her email is martinv@ccsu.edu. 

These students f&amp;*(ed up, and they deserve to be punished in the paper. But they did not do this alone and without tacit support from their advisors; worse still, their advisors failed to advise -- check out the earlier post re: the article -- this isn&#039;t Petroski&#039;s and Rowan&#039;s first offense. They&#039;ve been failed -- they&#039;ve not gotten the education they and others are paying for. They didn&#039;t do this alone. Help us -- email Sweeney and Martin and demand their apologies and responsibility too. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem rests with these morons, that&#8217;s true. And they should be hung out to dry for this garbage. I heard on campus (I&#8217;m at CCSU) that Petroski was resigned &#8212; i.e., voted off the editorial board, although he, like any other student, can write for the paper. Rowan refuses to resign &#8212; he &#8220;sees the light&#8221;. Great. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the thing &#8212; why aren&#8217;t others stepping up to the plate here? Did this happen in a vacuum? Hardly! Yet his advisors &#8212; neither of whom have met this Petroski kid until TODAY &#8212; won&#8217;t acknowledge that they failed to advise and teach him or anyone else at the paper. But what else is a student paper but a place to learn about journalism &#8212; its freedoms and its limitations? Some serious pressure needs to go to these people &#8212; Their names are Sue Sweeney, who is the director of Student Activities and Leadership Development &#8212; her email is <a href="mailto:sweeney@ccsu.edu">sweeney@ccsu.edu</a>. Vivian Martin is the faculty advisor to the paper &#8212; her email is <a href="mailto:martinv@ccsu.edu">martinv@ccsu.edu</a>. </p>
<p>These students f&amp;*(ed up, and they deserve to be punished in the paper. But they did not do this alone and without tacit support from their advisors; worse still, their advisors failed to advise &#8212; check out the earlier post re: the article &#8212; this isn&#8217;t Petroski&#8217;s and Rowan&#8217;s first offense. They&#8217;ve been failed &#8212; they&#8217;ve not gotten the education they and others are paying for. They didn&#8217;t do this alone. Help us &#8212; email Sweeney and Martin and demand their apologies and responsibility too.</p>
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		<title>By: Laser Potato</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laser Potato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 00:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stick by my original theory that he sincerely means what he writes, then backpedals and calls it &quot;satire&quot;. That wouldn&#039;t be the first time such a thing has happened, that&#039;s for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stick by my original theory that he sincerely means what he writes, then backpedals and calls it &#8220;satire&#8221;. That wouldn&#8217;t be the first time such a thing has happened, that&#8217;s for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 22:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh how I hate to defend this asshat, but I suspect that the term &quot;pseudo-subject&quot; meant &quot;I should have picked a less sensitve subject to do my pseudo-editorial on&quot; instead of meaning &quot;Rape is a pseudo subject&quot;   But, hell, I don&#039;t really know...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh how I hate to defend this asshat, but I suspect that the term &#8220;pseudo-subject&#8221; meant &#8220;I should have picked a less sensitve subject to do my pseudo-editorial on&#8221; instead of meaning &#8220;Rape is a pseudo subject&#8221;   But, hell, I don&#8217;t really know&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: blondie</title>
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		<dc:creator>blondie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 20:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part of the problem is that satire is supposed to be funny and recognizable by most of the audience as satire.  

Unfortunately for this fellow, John, most people don&#039;t get a big laugh from kicking the wounded.  E.g., John&#039;s brand of satire would likely be equally ill-received if his mockery of choice was wounded soldiers returning from Iraq, those killed in Iraq, the casualties of 9/11, the two boys kidnapped and molested in Kansas (Missouri?), etc.  Do you think he &quot;gets&quot; that, or is he really just the sort of person who likes to stomp on the injured?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of the problem is that satire is supposed to be funny and recognizable by most of the audience as satire.  </p>
<p>Unfortunately for this fellow, John, most people don&#8217;t get a big laugh from kicking the wounded.  E.g., John&#8217;s brand of satire would likely be equally ill-received if his mockery of choice was wounded soldiers returning from Iraq, those killed in Iraq, the casualties of 9/11, the two boys kidnapped and molested in Kansas (Missouri?), etc.  Do you think he &#8220;gets&#8221; that, or is he really just the sort of person who likes to stomp on the injured?</p>
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