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  1. Ragnell
    Ragnell February 14, 2007 at 11:23 pm |

    Don’t you need to be born to die?

  2. Heraclitus
    Heraclitus February 14, 2007 at 11:29 pm |

    As The Unapologetic Mexican put it:

    Yes, good idea. And I can see how Republicans would be for keeping track of deaths by the intensity with which they are pushing for a body count in Iraq.

    It’s an interesting experiment in time-travel this fella is proposing. You know, getting your death certificate before you have cause to be given a birth certficate.

    Most interestingly, this little snifter of Tennessee poison proposes the attachment of a woman’s SS# on the Death Certificate. I suppose…so they can make sure to affix the proper number of gold stars on her TIA profile? It’s very thoughtful of Mr. Campfield (R-TN). Maybe we should thank him.

  3. mythago
    mythago February 14, 2007 at 11:53 pm |

    I’d like to hear his explanation for why he doesn’t think the aborted fetuses should get both a birth AND death certificate. Does he not believe an aborted fetus is a baby deserving of having its little footprints on a certificate?

  4. akeeyu
    akeeyu February 14, 2007 at 11:58 pm |

    Does this mean I can get death certificates (and therefore, death BENEFITS) for my miscarriages, too?

  5. Heraclitus
    Heraclitus February 15, 2007 at 12:13 am |

    Wouldn’t they have to issue a SSN with a birth certificate? This way it will somehow or other be the mother’s SSN on the death certificate, so Bill O’Reilly won’t have to have the information leaked to him.

  6. snakeface
    snakeface February 15, 2007 at 3:41 am |

    So is the next step to issue ‘life certificates’ to all babies that are conceived? Maybe they can package the forms with pregnancy test kits, and you send in the little stick stapled to the second page, after the “missionary position?” ticky box.

  7. egalia
    egalia February 15, 2007 at 4:15 am |

    Stacey X is the joke of the state. This has no chance of going anywhere. The only thing he succeeds at is getting international press for his stupidity.

    You may remember him as the lawmaker who called the state Black Caucus more racist than the KKK cause they wouldn’t let his white ass join the BLACK Caucus.

    http://guerillawomentn.blogspot.com/2007/02/tn-lawmaker-wants-state-to-call-fetus.html

  8. philosophizer
    philosophizer February 15, 2007 at 11:06 am |

    why would a guy like that even want to join the Black Caucus? I mean, assuming he’s as Whitey McWhiterson as he sounds from that, what purpose would it serve?

    Aside from being a dick, I mean.

  9. Miss Robyn
    Miss Robyn February 15, 2007 at 11:11 am |

    Sweet, and you know what that will mean- freaky ass pro-lifers showing up at your house singing funeral dirges. You know it’ll happen. Or, shit- worse- considering they *kill* abortion providers…

  10. Rhiannon
    Rhiannon February 15, 2007 at 11:19 am |

    Shoot… if we can get death cert’s for our unborn can we get life insurance too? Hey GERBER! Give me dat life insurance for $10 bucks… I’ll need it for about a week. *shakes head*

  11. Blitzgal
    Blitzgal February 15, 2007 at 12:16 pm |

    Considering that a significant number of pregnancies naturally terminate in a miscarriage during the first trimester, would all of those women have to go report their experience in order to get death certificates? Because that just seems unnecessarily abusive to me.

  12. syfr
    syfr February 15, 2007 at 12:38 pm |

    I just hear something on NPR last night on All Things Considered about some parents of stillborn children pushing for birth certificates for the dead stillborn person. This would seem to fit in with that.

    The parents could get a death certificate, but not a birth certificate, and were pushing for a birth certificate as well.

  13. Anne
    Anne February 15, 2007 at 12:48 pm |

    Syfr, it’s one thing if they want it, another if they’re legally required whether they want it or not.

  14. Lindsay
    Lindsay February 15, 2007 at 12:51 pm |

    What a waste of trees. I have an idea, the baby can be born and then they can wait and see how long it can survive on it’s own before it dies. Just let it sit out on a table fending for its own life, and if it fails it dies, boo fucking hoo. Because you have to be born to die. You aren’t alive until you can make it outside the mother. Effin retards, and they’re the state right below me.
    If I had an abortion, I’d tell any SOB that asked, and be damn proud of it.

  15. Dr. William Dyer
    Dr. William Dyer February 15, 2007 at 1:26 pm |

    You know normally it is not just the mother that gets listed on those death or birth certificates, the father does as well. Interesting how the impregnator has the ability to escape the consequences of his actions unless the woman speaks up. This proposal would be among the many exhibits there is little concern by the leaders of the pro-life movement for much other then keeping women in line with said people’s conception of women.

    Maybe this law should have an amendment added to make the default father unless otherwise stated by the woman to be this legislator. Such things would be appropriate, since he wants to insert himself into these women’s personal decisions.

  16. CE Petro
    CE Petro February 15, 2007 at 2:51 pm |

    Feel free to leave the “blogging rep” a comment. The URL is http://lastcar.blogspot.com/

    I did a cursory search and found that NH and Montana had both introduced similar bills. It appears they didn’t go anyhere, thankfully.

  17. Lenka
    Lenka February 15, 2007 at 4:57 pm |

    Also, back in early 2005, Delegate John Cosgrove (R-VA) proposed HB1677 – the “report of fetal death” legislation – that would have required women experiencing an unattended miscarriage to report to local police within 12 hours (or 3 days if medical personnel were aware or involved, as in a medical abortion procedure) or suffer a possible penalty of up to one year in jail or a $2500.00 fine. The report women would have been required to file included information on past reproductive and marital history, education level, report of prenatal care etc.; fortunately this outrageous bill “died” shortly afterwards.

    (full text at http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?051+ful+HB1677)

  18. CatStaff
    CatStaff February 15, 2007 at 9:54 pm |

    Yes, Lenka, it’s true. Right here in the Old Dominion. Considering the fact that I had 5 miscarriages and 2 ectopic pregnancies (with, thankfully, one live son in between), the paperwork alone would have killed me.

    I wonder if the Tennesee bill means that you can get a dependent deduction for that year.

  19. Chicklet
    Chicklet February 16, 2007 at 12:55 pm |

    I’d be making a “report” every month – flinging my clottiest bloody tampon at Cosgrove’s head.

  20. tzs
    tzs February 17, 2007 at 2:02 pm |

    *sigh*. What is it about certain males to be total jerks?

  21. raging red
    raging red February 17, 2007 at 9:32 pm |

    Considering their belief that abortion = murder, if they don’t also propose issuing death certificates for miscarriages, that would be like only issuing death certificates for people (you know, actual born humans) who are murdered, but not those who die of natural causes.

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