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	<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/03/13/autoadmit-update/</link>
	<description>In defense of the sanctimonious women&#039;s studies set.</description>
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		<title>By: SpiritofMargaretBrent</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/03/13/autoadmit-update/#comment-93270</link>
		<dc:creator>SpiritofMargaretBrent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 16:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The link didn&#039;t go through in my previous post:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lawweekly.org/?module=displaystory&amp;story_id=1575&amp;edition_id=58&amp;format=html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;

It&#039;s not showing up in preview, so here&#039;s the plain URL:

http://www.lawweekly.org/?module=displaystory&amp;story_id=1575&amp;edition_id=58&amp;format=html

From the article:

&lt;blockquote&gt;The women also told the Law Weekly that one of the more frustrating aspects of the “Top 14” events was that AutoAdmit’s administrators refused to remove any of the discussion from their message board and declined to prevent the information from being accessible through Google. In a recent Washington Post article, then-administrator Anthony Ciolli was quoted as saying that he “almost never censor[s] content, no matter how abhorrent it may be” because he is a “strong believer[] in freedom of expression and the marketplace of ideas.” 

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and:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Similarly, some First Amendment activists quotes in recent media reports about AutoAdmit cautioned against censorship, suggesting instead that victims of online harassment pursue remedies in court if the attacks rise to the level of actionable tort or crime. 

In response to this argument, Dean Jeffries notes that “the First Amendment protects a great many instances of speech that is deeply reprehensible. No one wants to study and work in an environment in which tort and crime are the only norms of personal responsibility and behavior. As members of the Law School community, we have obligations toward each other that go beyond the commands of the law.” 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The link didn&#8217;t go through in my previous post:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lawweekly.org/?module=displaystory&amp;story_id=1575&amp;edition_id=58&amp;format=html" rel="nofollow"></p>
<p>It&#8217;s not showing up in preview, so here&#8217;s the plain URL:</p>
<p></a><a href="http://www.lawweekly.org/?module=displaystory&#038;story_id=1575&#038;edition_id=58&#038;format=html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lawweekly.org/?module=displaystory&#038;story_id=1575&#038;edition_id=58&#038;format=html</a></p>
<p>From the article:</p>
<blockquote><p>The women also told the Law Weekly that one of the more frustrating aspects of the “Top 14” events was that AutoAdmit’s administrators refused to remove any of the discussion from their message board and declined to prevent the information from being accessible through Google. In a recent Washington Post article, then-administrator Anthony Ciolli was quoted as saying that he “almost never censor[s] content, no matter how abhorrent it may be” because he is a “strong believer[] in freedom of expression and the marketplace of ideas.” </p>
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<p>and:</p>
<blockquote><p>Similarly, some First Amendment activists quotes in recent media reports about AutoAdmit cautioned against censorship, suggesting instead that victims of online harassment pursue remedies in court if the attacks rise to the level of actionable tort or crime. </p>
<p>In response to this argument, Dean Jeffries notes that “the First Amendment protects a great many instances of speech that is deeply reprehensible. No one wants to study and work in an environment in which tort and crime are the only norms of personal responsibility and behavior. As members of the Law School community, we have obligations toward each other that go beyond the commands of the law.”
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		<title>By: mythago</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/03/13/autoadmit-update/#comment-93266</link>
		<dc:creator>mythago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 15:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;assuming “lonelyvirgin” created his email, it was an original work of authorship&lt;/i&gt;

HectorB, you do not have a bright future in IP law ahead of you. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>assuming “lonelyvirgin” created his email, it was an original work of authorship</i></p>
<p>HectorB, you do not have a bright future in IP law ahead of you.</p>
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		<title>By: SpiritofMargaretBrent</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/03/13/autoadmit-update/#comment-93265</link>
		<dc:creator>SpiritofMargaretBrent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 15:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Virginia Law Weekly has an article about it which features the perspectives of the women from there who were targeted:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lawweekly.org/?module=displaystory&amp;story_id=1575&amp;edition_id=58&amp;format=html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Virginia Law Weekly has an article about it which features the perspectives of the women from there who were targeted:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lawweekly.org/?module=displaystory&amp;story_id=1575&amp;edition_id=58&amp;format=html" rel="nofollow"><br />
</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jack B.</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/03/13/autoadmit-update/#comment-93205</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 00:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anthony Ciolli&#039;s website has been a cesspool of racists and misogynists for years.  It&#039;s amazing that it took this long for Anthony Ciolli to finally resign as &quot;Chief Education Director&quot; of AutoAdmit.  If ever there was a title as pathetic as that, I&#039;d be curious to know.

But Anthony Ciolli should &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; be off the hook just because of his resignation.  Folks, we are talking about a future potential attorney here.  The New York Bar and his future employers need to be made aware of Ciolli&#039;s actions.  Or rather, his lack of action in refusing to remove defamatory comments from his message board.  Although Jarret Cohen is equally responsible, Mr. Ciolli needs to be held accountable for what he has done.  It is because of Anthony Ciolli&#039;s refusal to remove libelous and defamatory material on his message boards that the careers of several young law students are jeopardized.  

We need to rise up and take a stand here.  We need to let the world know what a low-life, unethical human being Anthony Ciolli is.  He does not deserve a spot in the New York Bar nor a respected law firm after what he&#039;s done.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anthony Ciolli&#8217;s website has been a cesspool of racists and misogynists for years.  It&#8217;s amazing that it took this long for Anthony Ciolli to finally resign as &#8220;Chief Education Director&#8221; of AutoAdmit.  If ever there was a title as pathetic as that, I&#8217;d be curious to know.</p>
<p>But Anthony Ciolli should <strong><em>not</em></strong> be off the hook just because of his resignation.  Folks, we are talking about a future potential attorney here.  The New York Bar and his future employers need to be made aware of Ciolli&#8217;s actions.  Or rather, his lack of action in refusing to remove defamatory comments from his message board.  Although Jarret Cohen is equally responsible, Mr. Ciolli needs to be held accountable for what he has done.  It is because of Anthony Ciolli&#8217;s refusal to remove libelous and defamatory material on his message boards that the careers of several young law students are jeopardized.  </p>
<p>We need to rise up and take a stand here.  We need to let the world know what a low-life, unethical human being Anthony Ciolli is.  He does not deserve a spot in the New York Bar nor a respected law firm after what he&#8217;s done.</p>
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		<title>By: Sickle</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/03/13/autoadmit-update/#comment-93203</link>
		<dc:creator>Sickle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 00:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I wanted to see if there was any update; imagine my surprise to find feministe reproducing copyrighted material w/o the permission of its sick and twisted author, “lonelyvirgin”.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

QQ more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I wanted to see if there was any update; imagine my surprise to find feministe reproducing copyrighted material w/o the permission of its sick and twisted author, “lonelyvirgin”.</p></blockquote>
<p>QQ more.</p>
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		<title>By: SpiritofMargaretBrent</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/03/13/autoadmit-update/#comment-93199</link>
		<dc:creator>SpiritofMargaretBrent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 23:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And what exactly does a crime by a student&#039;s father have to do with her?  Why would that even  be of interest to the law school faculty?  

Jarret Cohen claims that he is amenable to removing threads with the women&#039;s names.  Yet names one of them in one of his statements about this.  Because she had the audacity to threaten to litigate in an e-mail.  So, let me see if I understand his reasoning, it&#039;s ok to harass women by name (posting details about contact info &amp; whereabouts)  in threads under the cover of site provided anonymity, but it&#039;s not ok to respond to that by threatening to sue?  Those &quot;men&quot; (and I use the term loosely because their actions are too immature and cowardly to qualify for any adult human being status) are lucky that she decided to pursue litigation vs. a more violent means which could be construed as self-defense. 

Plus, there&#039;s the everchanging story.  Oh, we&#039;re in favor of free speech! Oh, we didn&#039;t know about it!  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what exactly does a crime by a student&#8217;s father have to do with her?  Why would that even  be of interest to the law school faculty?  </p>
<p>Jarret Cohen claims that he is amenable to removing threads with the women&#8217;s names.  Yet names one of them in one of his statements about this.  Because she had the audacity to threaten to litigate in an e-mail.  So, let me see if I understand his reasoning, it&#8217;s ok to harass women by name (posting details about contact info &amp; whereabouts)  in threads under the cover of site provided anonymity, but it&#8217;s not ok to respond to that by threatening to sue?  Those &#8220;men&#8221; (and I use the term loosely because their actions are too immature and cowardly to qualify for any adult human being status) are lucky that she decided to pursue litigation vs. a more violent means which could be construed as self-defense. </p>
<p>Plus, there&#8217;s the everchanging story.  Oh, we&#8217;re in favor of free speech! Oh, we didn&#8217;t know about it!</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/03/13/autoadmit-update/#comment-93198</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 23:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hector, if that&#039;s the only defense you have in favor of XOXO you need to go back to undergrad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hector, if that&#8217;s the only defense you have in favor of XOXO you need to go back to undergrad.</p>
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		<title>By: Hector B.</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/03/13/autoadmit-update/#comment-93195</link>
		<dc:creator>Hector B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 23:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Requirements for copyright: an original work of authorship, fixed in a tangible medium of expression. formalities are no longer required.
assuming &quot;lonelyvirgin&quot; created his email, it was an original work of authorship. It was fixed in a tangible medium of expression upon creation, because RAM counts as a tangible medium of expression. I hate to offend the hostess, but your understanding of copyright would seem to be lacking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Requirements for copyright: an original work of authorship, fixed in a tangible medium of expression. formalities are no longer required.<br />
assuming &#8220;lonelyvirgin&#8221; created his email, it was an original work of authorship. It was fixed in a tangible medium of expression upon creation, because RAM counts as a tangible medium of expression. I hate to offend the hostess, but your understanding of copyright would seem to be lacking.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/03/13/autoadmit-update/#comment-93193</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 23:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An email posted on a public online message board is not copyrighted material. Try again. And next time, try to know what you&#039;re talking about. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An email posted on a public online message board is not copyrighted material. Try again. And next time, try to know what you&#8217;re talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: Hector B.</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/03/13/autoadmit-update/#comment-93192</link>
		<dc:creator>Hector B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 23:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, there are three moderated discussion boards for law students and prospective students: www.lawschooldiscussion.com, www.lawschoolparadise.com/forums, and www.nontradlaw.net, as well as the original princeton review law school forum. But Autoadmit has the most volume.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, there are three moderated discussion boards for law students and prospective students: <a href="http://www.lawschooldiscussion.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.lawschooldiscussion.com</a>, <a href="http://www.lawschoolparadise.com/forums" rel="nofollow">http://www.lawschoolparadise.com/forums</a>, and <a href="http://www.nontradlaw.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.nontradlaw.net</a>, as well as the original princeton review law school forum. But Autoadmit has the most volume.</p>
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