I just saw the episode because Apple hates me and waits forever to put BSG episodes on iTunes. :-(

If you’ve got broadband and an .avi player, torrentspy usually has a torrent up before it even airs on the west coast. And it’s free.

I think the Roslin-as-Moses thing has been out in the open since the first season. It’s one of the first things that makes her start looking to the scriptures, because the scrolls of Pythia say that a dying leader blah blah won’t make it to the promised land, and she knew she was dying. She just didn’t know yet that the writers were going to give her a season in remission ;) Actually, come to think of it, I think that’s why they’re heading towards Earth in particular, because the scrolls said that it’s the promised land the dying leader won’t make it to, or something.

It wasn’t Hera’s blood; it was Hera’s blood in utero So now that she’s born it might not work anymore. In fact I seem to recall a statement to that effect, but I could be wrong.

Also, can I just say I already love Feministe as a feminist blog, but the fact that I can come here and gossip about BSG without every other comment being “Man, that episode sucked, I’m never watching the show again” makes me very, very happy. Almost every other thread I’ve seen about this episode was filled with negativity. So thanks, zuzu (and the commentariat :-)

Think about the whole ‘this has all happened before’ thing. Are all the ‘humans’ just cylons from a previous cycle thousands of years ago? (maybe co-incidental with Greek Civ.) Or are the ‘sleepers’ sort of like Replicants, maybe the original Tigh was killed off to be replaced by an early 1.0 version of human Cylon complete with a lifetime of memories (remember how ‘Boomer’ had the same kind of lifetime of memories)

I think Rosslyn is the fifth cylon because she’s sharing dreams with Athena and the 6. I’m down like a fat man on a see saw for anything Moore and Co. want to throw at us.

Or the humans are “number 1″…

I can’t really think of another reason that the other seven Cylons wouldn’t know what the Five look like. D’Anna number is Three, right? So unless the model numbers have nothing to do with the order the twelve models were made, or came into being, or whatever, the Threes predate at least two of the Final Five.

We still don’t know who Number One is. IIRC, the Dean Stockwell Cylon is Number Two. My guess is that Tigh, Tyrol, Tori, and Anders are numbers 9 – 12.

I think Number One is Patrick McGoohan. Information! We want information! OK, not really. But that would be awesome.

Baltar was standing with Hera, and the five were up on the balcony. This suggests he’s not a member of the five.

The problem is that, outside of him being a member of the Five, I can’t even begin to explain why he was hearing the Dylan song.

TomCody says:

All the more reason for me to re-watch the earlier episodes. :)

I have a feeling that – many thanks to Ron Moore making us wait for fraking ever for next season, I’m going to end up wearing out my DVD’s of the first two seasons.

Like everyone else, I have a theory. And mine is: the Five split off from the rest of the Cylons *before* they took human form; before the first war, even. Possibly *because* the rest of the Cylons were planning the war, and the Five didn’t agree with it– which would certainly explain why at least four of them were major players in the resistance.

I can’t really think of another reason that the other seven Cylons wouldn’t know what the Five look like. D’Anna number is Three, right? So unless the model numbers have nothing to do with the order the twelve models were made, or came into being, or whatever, the Threes predate at least two of the Final Five.

Or, wait– could they be the Final Five because they’re numbers 8-12? No, Sharon is Eight, isn’t she? So that doesn’t work. Hm. Either way, at least some of the other Cylons should have coexisted with them for a while. Which means that they all had some existence prior to their humanform one, because that has to be the point at which the split occurred.

:-(((