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		<title>By: A Pang</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Pang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just to note that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thestar.com/article/201762&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the Toronto Star&lt;/a&gt; has picked up the story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just to note that <a href="http://www.thestar.com/article/201762" rel="nofollow">the Toronto Star</a> has picked up the story.</p>
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		<title>By: AnthroBabe</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnthroBabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DataShade:

&quot;Did the original article have pictures of smiling fratboy jocks giving a thumbs-up?&quot;

Well, yes, they actually did, sort of. It was a picture, likely of some other club with a banner, which, of course, the Daily Guardian photoshopped (or not?!) the words Intramural Rape Club. The expressions of the (white, frat-looking) guys were not crazy stupid (i.e., we&#039;re in on the joke) so I am left to consider that the reporters (meh) took an actual pic from some club. I wonder how those guys feel about that. Ain&#039;t on the web, BTW, only the &quot;real&quot; version of the Guardian is online. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DataShade:</p>
<p>&#8220;Did the original article have pictures of smiling fratboy jocks giving a thumbs-up?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, yes, they actually did, sort of. It was a picture, likely of some other club with a banner, which, of course, the Daily Guardian photoshopped (or not?!) the words Intramural Rape Club. The expressions of the (white, frat-looking) guys were not crazy stupid (i.e., we&#8217;re in on the joke) so I am left to consider that the reporters (meh) took an actual pic from some club. I wonder how those guys feel about that. Ain&#8217;t on the web, BTW, only the &#8220;real&#8221; version of the Guardian is online.</p>
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		<title>By: greensmile</title>
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		<dc:creator>greensmile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 11:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imus thought he was being funny too.  To make &quot;jokes&quot; like that you have to have an oppressed class and a conventional lie about their &quot;real&quot; character in order to keep em down with &quot;humor&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imus thought he was being funny too.  To make &#8220;jokes&#8221; like that you have to have an oppressed class and a conventional lie about their &#8220;real&#8221; character in order to keep em down with &#8220;humor&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: DataShade</title>
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		<dc:creator>DataShade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 06:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, apparently strike-through tags show up in the preview but not the final post?  apologies if the previous post wasn&#039;t clear, but the IRC reference was supposed to be inside the tag.


But the real reason I made a second post was to link to this:
http://www.first-draft.com/2007/04/victims.html
&lt;blockquote&gt;I think there&#039;s something else going on here, also linked to this Kathleen Parker/female soldiers thing, that plays into the Republicans&#039; Victimized White Male base and the narratives that appeal to such a base.

People like this really do feel put-upon that they can&#039;t give in to their basest instincts. They really feel like they&#039;ve been somehow reduced because they&#039;re not allowed to reduce others.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And that&#039;s what makes me want to stab all of them.  The ones I went to school with, the ones I work with, the ones who get paid to write or say things in public.

This sort of thing is definitely a problem.  Satire isn&#039;t actually that hard to do, but it&#039;s used best when it&#039;s used on yourself or to make yourself an object of mockery (see The Colbert Report, Moliere&#039;s &lt;em&gt;School for Wives&lt;/em&gt;).  Unless &quot;Xavier&quot; is actually one of the women named in the article, then it just wasn&#039;t appropriate.  And the sense of urgency in these things, the sense that they&#039;re entitled to do it because they&#039;re so manfully brave and stoic about putting up with tolerance the other 364 days of the year, makes me wants Jesus to be real and resurrect them so I can stab them again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, apparently strike-through tags show up in the preview but not the final post?  apologies if the previous post wasn&#8217;t clear, but the IRC reference was supposed to be inside the tag.</p>
<p>But the real reason I made a second post was to link to this:<br />
<a href="http://www.first-draft.com/2007/04/victims.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.first-draft.com/2007/04/victims.html</a></p>
<blockquote><p>I think there&#8217;s something else going on here, also linked to this Kathleen Parker/female soldiers thing, that plays into the Republicans&#8217; Victimized White Male base and the narratives that appeal to such a base.</p>
<p>People like this really do feel put-upon that they can&#8217;t give in to their basest instincts. They really feel like they&#8217;ve been somehow reduced because they&#8217;re not allowed to reduce others.</p></blockquote>
<p>And that&#8217;s what makes me want to stab all of them.  The ones I went to school with, the ones I work with, the ones who get paid to write or say things in public.</p>
<p>This sort of thing is definitely a problem.  Satire isn&#8217;t actually that hard to do, but it&#8217;s used best when it&#8217;s used on yourself or to make yourself an object of mockery (see The Colbert Report, Moliere&#8217;s <em>School for Wives</em>).  Unless &#8220;Xavier&#8221; is actually one of the women named in the article, then it just wasn&#8217;t appropriate.  And the sense of urgency in these things, the sense that they&#8217;re entitled to do it because they&#8217;re so manfully brave and stoic about putting up with tolerance the other 364 days of the year, makes me wants Jesus to be real and resurrect them so I can stab them again.</p>
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		<title>By: DataShade</title>
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		<dc:creator>DataShade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 05:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;UC San Diego had an April Fool’s issue of The Guardian with a “news” story about the new “Intramural Rape Club.” I believe the Women’s Center photocopied that story (and plastered it around campus) and replaced IRC with “I Love NAMBLA” and asked at the bottom “Still think it’s funny?”&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Oh man, more funny!

Did the original article have pictures of smiling fratboy jocks giving a thumbs-up?  I can just imagine a picture with two guys looking straight out an Aebercrombie catalog with a fake-caption &quot;Jack Smedley and Ryan Durstman are top scorers in this year&#039;s varsity Intramural Rape I Love NAMBLA Club&quot; 


that&#039;ll have me giggling for a while</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>UC San Diego had an April Fool’s issue of The Guardian with a “news” story about the new “Intramural Rape Club.” I believe the Women’s Center photocopied that story (and plastered it around campus) and replaced IRC with “I Love NAMBLA” and asked at the bottom “Still think it’s funny?”</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh man, more funny!</p>
<p>Did the original article have pictures of smiling fratboy jocks giving a thumbs-up?  I can just imagine a picture with two guys looking straight out an Aebercrombie catalog with a fake-caption &#8220;Jack Smedley and Ryan Durstman are top scorers in this year&#8217;s varsity Intramural Rape I Love NAMBLA Club&#8221; </p>
<p>that&#8217;ll have me giggling for a while</p>
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		<title>By: thatsallshewrote</title>
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		<dc:creator>thatsallshewrote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 03:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey all

the editors over at the gazette and the university students council has started responding to the uproar.  i&#039;ve posted some of the response at http//soapboxspinster.blogspot.com

or check out the facebook group for updates:
http://uwo.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2268028777</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey all</p>
<p>the editors over at the gazette and the university students council has started responding to the uproar.  i&#8217;ve posted some of the response at http//soapboxspinster.blogspot.com</p>
<p>or check out the facebook group for updates:<br />
<a href="http://uwo.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2268028777" rel="nofollow">http://uwo.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2268028777</a></p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 02:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;OK, I’m twenty-five and I find myself saying “wtf is up with kids/the world these days” all the effin time now. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Me too! I don&#039;t remember this shit in college, and I graduated all of 4 years ago. There was the occasional obnoxious woman joke, but nothing like this. Same with high school. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>OK, I’m twenty-five and I find myself saying “wtf is up with kids/the world these days” all the effin time now. </p></blockquote>
<p>Me too! I don&#8217;t remember this shit in college, and I graduated all of 4 years ago. There was the occasional obnoxious woman joke, but nothing like this. Same with high school.</p>
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		<title>By: Blair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 23:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to mention the copyediting of the Michigan Daily has gone to shit.  I still read it (I&#039;m not sure why anymore) - but yes, I too can vouch for a distinct anti-feminist rhetoric coming out of the Daily nowadays.  It&#039;s getting some backlash in letters to the editor, but not enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to mention the copyediting of the Michigan Daily has gone to shit.  I still read it (I&#8217;m not sure why anymore) &#8211; but yes, I too can vouch for a distinct anti-feminist rhetoric coming out of the Daily nowadays.  It&#8217;s getting some backlash in letters to the editor, but not enough.</p>
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		<title>By: defenestrated</title>
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		<dc:creator>defenestrated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 22:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I think things ARE different than 15-25 years ago, Zuzu.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
OK, I&#039;m &lt;strong&gt;twenty-five&lt;/strong&gt; and I find myself saying &quot;wtf is up with kids/the world these days&quot; all the effin time now. I maintain that our public discourse has seen a sharp decline in the past, oh say, six or seven years - a topic I cannot, apparently, think about without getting &quot;Who let the dogs out (who? who who who?)&quot; stuck in my head.  I&#039;m hesitant to believe that such pathetic leaders can bring down decades of cultural progress, but it really does seem apparent that Rove, Bushie &amp; Co opened the gates on a lot of pent-up anger by coming to and maintaining power by such divisive methods.  Anger that I think, if things had gone differently (read: if the Supreme Court had stayed out of ballot counting), would have continued to be dissolved by education, familiarity, and plain old habit.

Remember the late nineties? Will &amp; Grace and Queer Eye (at this point, even tokenism looks better by contrast) were crazy popular and America was getting used to having gay people in their living rooms.  Overturning Roe was a batshit crazy idea some people in faraway, barely-populated states talked about.  And unless I&#039;m wrong, you sure as fuck didn&#039;t write about the glories of rape in your college newspaper.

Or, I&#039;m wrong and should just admit to myself that I&#039;m getting old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I think things ARE different than 15-25 years ago, Zuzu.
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<p>OK, I&#8217;m <strong>twenty-five</strong> and I find myself saying &#8220;wtf is up with kids/the world these days&#8221; all the effin time now. I maintain that our public discourse has seen a sharp decline in the past, oh say, six or seven years &#8211; a topic I cannot, apparently, think about without getting &#8220;Who let the dogs out (who? who who who?)&#8221; stuck in my head.  I&#8217;m hesitant to believe that such pathetic leaders can bring down decades of cultural progress, but it really does seem apparent that Rove, Bushie &amp; Co opened the gates on a lot of pent-up anger by coming to and maintaining power by such divisive methods.  Anger that I think, if things had gone differently (read: if the Supreme Court had stayed out of ballot counting), would have continued to be dissolved by education, familiarity, and plain old habit.</p>
<p>Remember the late nineties? Will &amp; Grace and Queer Eye (at this point, even tokenism looks better by contrast) were crazy popular and America was getting used to having gay people in their living rooms.  Overturning Roe was a batshit crazy idea some people in faraway, barely-populated states talked about.  And unless I&#8217;m wrong, you sure as fuck didn&#8217;t write about the glories of rape in your college newspaper.</p>
<p>Or, I&#8217;m wrong and should just admit to myself that I&#8217;m getting old.</p>
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		<title>By: Midgetqueen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Midgetqueen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 22:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanted to add... I&#039;m in an LJ group with a woman who attends Western Ontario, and she included the contact info for the Gazette&#039;s editor in chief, and for the university itself. I am currently doing layout for the student  newspaper at my *own* school, so once I&#039;ve got that in order, I&#039;ll fire off my own round of e-mails.

Here&#039;s the info. GIve &#039;em hell:

Please also take a few minutes to take action by writing to the Gazette Editor-in-Chief, Ian Van Den Hurk at gazette.editor@uwo.ca. UWO also has policies on equity and human rights that we feel this article severely violates (more info here: http://www.uwo.ca/equity/). You can email the equity services at Western at equity@uwo.ca to complain and to draw their attention to this article.

Your help in spreading the word about this disgusting article is greatly appreciated. (In short: we want the whole internets to hear about Western and it&#039;s misogynist rapist paper.) THANK YOU.

ps if you&#039;re on facebook... http://uwo.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2268028777
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to add&#8230; I&#8217;m in an LJ group with a woman who attends Western Ontario, and she included the contact info for the Gazette&#8217;s editor in chief, and for the university itself. I am currently doing layout for the student  newspaper at my *own* school, so once I&#8217;ve got that in order, I&#8217;ll fire off my own round of e-mails.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the info. GIve &#8216;em hell:</p>
<p>Please also take a few minutes to take action by writing to the Gazette Editor-in-Chief, Ian Van Den Hurk at <a href="mailto:gazette.editor@uwo.ca">gazette.editor@uwo.ca</a>. UWO also has policies on equity and human rights that we feel this article severely violates (more info here: <a href="http://www.uwo.ca/equity/" rel="nofollow">http://www.uwo.ca/equity/</a>). You can email the equity services at Western at <a href="mailto:equity@uwo.ca">equity@uwo.ca</a> to complain and to draw their attention to this article.</p>
<p>Your help in spreading the word about this disgusting article is greatly appreciated. (In short: we want the whole internets to hear about Western and it&#8217;s misogynist rapist paper.) THANK YOU.</p>
<p>ps if you&#8217;re on facebook&#8230; <a href="http://uwo.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2268028777" rel="nofollow">http://uwo.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2268028777</a></p>
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