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	<title>Comments on: There Is Nothing That Can&#8217;t Be Blamed On Women, Part 4,593</title>
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	<description>In defense of the sanctimonious women&#039;s studies set.</description>
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		<title>By: SpiritofMargaretBrent</title>
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		<dc:creator>SpiritofMargaretBrent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 16:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When people blame women for this kind of thing, I think they should be locked into a room with Margaritaville playing on a 24/7 loop.  Until they finally understand the last chorus which goes &quot;And some people claim that there&#039;s a woman to blame/But I know it&#039;s my own damn fault.&quot;

Sure, it might lead to inappropriate flip flop wear, excessive margarita consumption and lost shakers of salt, but it&#039;s a risk I&#039;m willing to take.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When people blame women for this kind of thing, I think they should be locked into a room with Margaritaville playing on a 24/7 loop.  Until they finally understand the last chorus which goes &#8220;And some people claim that there&#8217;s a woman to blame/But I know it&#8217;s my own damn fault.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sure, it might lead to inappropriate flip flop wear, excessive margarita consumption and lost shakers of salt, but it&#8217;s a risk I&#8217;m willing to take.</p>
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		<title>By: Manju</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manju</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 00:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a quick Q about comment policy. I left a comment on this thread a few days back. After my name it said &quot;your comment is awaiting moderation.&quot; 

It was like that for a few days. Now I&#039;m at a different computer and I don&#039;t see my comment. What happenned?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a quick Q about comment policy. I left a comment on this thread a few days back. After my name it said &#8220;your comment is awaiting moderation.&#8221; </p>
<p>It was like that for a few days. Now I&#8217;m at a different computer and I don&#8217;t see my comment. What happenned?</p>
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		<title>By: appletree  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; Thursday Links: &#8216;Feminists Against Bigotry&#8217; Edition</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/04/24/there-is-nothing-that-cant-be-blamed-on-women-part-4593/#comment-101350</link>
		<dc:creator>appletree  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; Thursday Links: &#8216;Feminists Against Bigotry&#8217; Edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 06:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ecomes a bit awkward. Zuzu of Feministe points out that Paglia&#8217;s comments were later cited by the UK Times, an outlet that n [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ecomes a bit awkward. Zuzu of Feministe points out that Paglia&#8217;s comments were later cited by the UK Times, an outlet that n [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Raincitygirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raincitygirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 05:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Either way, it’s women’s fault.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, &lt;strong&gt;duh! &lt;/strong&gt;Are you new?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Either way, it’s women’s fault.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, <strong>duh! </strong>Are you new?</p>
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		<title>By: zuzu</title>
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		<dc:creator>zuzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 04:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Either way, it&#039;s women&#039;s fault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Either way, it&#8217;s women&#8217;s fault.</p>
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		<title>By: Hector B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hector B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 01:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I think the argument is that if girls are going to put out, they’d better make sure that everyone, including the Chos of the world, get their fair share. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
Although Paglia&#039;s conversation was hard to follow, I&#039;m thinking her argument is slightly different: She&#039;s not advising pity fucks for the deranged, but that women should not appear to be fucking everyone but Mr. Psycho. To me, she&#039;s saying: &quot;girls&quot; shouldn&#039;t put out freely because that leaves &quot;the marginal and socially inept&quot; with no illusions why they&#039;re not getting laid: not, for example, because the women are saving themselves for marriage, not because the women are only having sex within the context of a committed relationship, but basically because women wouldn&#039;t have sex with you if you were the last man on earth. Once Mr. Psychopath is forced to realize this, rather than accept his inadequacies, he goes postal. Again, I don&#039;t think Paglia&#039;s advising women to screw the unhinged to keep them happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I think the argument is that if girls are going to put out, they’d better make sure that everyone, including the Chos of the world, get their fair share. </p></blockquote>
<p>Although Paglia&#8217;s conversation was hard to follow, I&#8217;m thinking her argument is slightly different: She&#8217;s not advising pity fucks for the deranged, but that women should not appear to be fucking everyone but Mr. Psycho. To me, she&#8217;s saying: &#8220;girls&#8221; shouldn&#8217;t put out freely because that leaves &#8220;the marginal and socially inept&#8221; with no illusions why they&#8217;re not getting laid: not, for example, because the women are saving themselves for marriage, not because the women are only having sex within the context of a committed relationship, but basically because women wouldn&#8217;t have sex with you if you were the last man on earth. Once Mr. Psychopath is forced to realize this, rather than accept his inadequacies, he goes postal. Again, I don&#8217;t think Paglia&#8217;s advising women to screw the unhinged to keep them happy.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna Darko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna Darko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 22:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is everything she said in that article. Clearly, she blames women, schools and strangely enough, blacks:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Camille Paglia, professor of humanities and media studies at the University of the Arts in Philadelphia and author of Sexual Personae, believes Cho is emblematic of the crisis of masculinity in America.&lt;strong&gt; “Women have difficulty understanding the mix of male sexual aggression with egotism and the ecstasy of self-immolation,” she says. &lt;/strong&gt;Or to quote Martin Amis on that other killer, Fred West: he became “addicted to the moment where impotence becomes prepotence”.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

WTF so women don&#039;t understand that men don&#039;t want sex; men just want to kill themselves and others. She blames women here.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Paglia believes the school Cho attended would have been no better equipped to deal with frustrated young males. “There is nothing happening educationally in these boring prisons that are fondly called suburban high schools. They are saturated with a false humanitarianism, which is especially damaging for boys.

“Young men have enormous energy. There was a time when they could run away, hop on a freighter, go to a factory and earn money, do something with their hands. Now there is this snobbery of the upper-middle-class professional. Everyone has to be a lawyer or paper pusher.”

&lt;strong&gt;Cho is a classic example of “someone who felt he was a loser in the cruel social rat race”, Paglia says.&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;The pervasive hook-up culture at college, where girls are prepared to sleep with boys they barely know or fancy, can be a source of seething resentment and alienation for those who are left out.
&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;
“Young women now seem to want to behave like men and have sex without commitment. The signals they are giving are very confusing, and rage and humiliation build up in boys who are spurned again and again.”&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;
The sex, Paglia argues, “is everywhere but it is not erotic”, as can be seen by the sad spectacle of Lindsay Lohan and Britney Spears flashing their lack of underwear during a night on the town. “It’s not even titillating. It’s banal and debasing.”&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;

She blames women here.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Paglia is a defender of the constitutional right to bear arms in America. She is troubled, however, by the ease with which Cho bought his weapons. “The problem is not hunting guns but these semi-automatic weapons. He could not have cut down that many people so quickly or with such brutal efficiency without them. They have no use except for commandos, swat teams and paramilitary organisations.

“This is part of the plague that has come with the drug culture in the inner cities,” she says. “Cho’s use of semi-automatic weapons can ultimately be traced back to gangsta rap. It is a fabrication of urban life which is sold to teenagers trapped in the utterly sterile shopping-mall culture of the American suburbs.”

“Throughout most of human history men have been armed, but with swords not guns,” Paglia observes. As the weapons grow more deadly, even a solitary “boy” can commit the worst massacre in American history. This is the 19th such scenario in the past decade. Unfortunately it is unlikely to be the last. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

So American male violence is due to blacks and gangster rap.

What also annoys me right now is the focus of the investigation on his ties to Emily Hilscher. They are trying to play up Yellow Peril stereotype to keep white women away from Asian men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is everything she said in that article. Clearly, she blames women, schools and strangely enough, blacks:</p>
<blockquote><p>Camille Paglia, professor of humanities and media studies at the University of the Arts in Philadelphia and author of Sexual Personae, believes Cho is emblematic of the crisis of masculinity in America.<strong> “Women have difficulty understanding the mix of male sexual aggression with egotism and the ecstasy of self-immolation,” she says. </strong>Or to quote Martin Amis on that other killer, Fred West: he became “addicted to the moment where impotence becomes prepotence”.</p></blockquote>
<p>WTF so women don&#8217;t understand that men don&#8217;t want sex; men just want to kill themselves and others. She blames women here.</p>
<blockquote><p>Paglia believes the school Cho attended would have been no better equipped to deal with frustrated young males. “There is nothing happening educationally in these boring prisons that are fondly called suburban high schools. They are saturated with a false humanitarianism, which is especially damaging for boys.</p>
<p>“Young men have enormous energy. There was a time when they could run away, hop on a freighter, go to a factory and earn money, do something with their hands. Now there is this snobbery of the upper-middle-class professional. Everyone has to be a lawyer or paper pusher.”</p>
<p><strong>Cho is a classic example of “someone who felt he was a loser in the cruel social rat race”, Paglia says.</strong> <strong>The pervasive hook-up culture at college, where girls are prepared to sleep with boys they barely know or fancy, can be a source of seething resentment and alienation for those who are left out.<br />
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“Young women now seem to want to behave like men and have sex without commitment. The signals they are giving are very confusing, and rage and humiliation build up in boys who are spurned again and again.”</strong><br />
<strong><br />
The sex, Paglia argues, “is everywhere but it is not erotic”, as can be seen by the sad spectacle of Lindsay Lohan and Britney Spears flashing their lack of underwear during a night on the town. “It’s not even titillating. It’s banal and debasing.”</strong> </p></blockquote>
<p>She blames women here.</p>
<blockquote><p>Paglia is a defender of the constitutional right to bear arms in America. She is troubled, however, by the ease with which Cho bought his weapons. “The problem is not hunting guns but these semi-automatic weapons. He could not have cut down that many people so quickly or with such brutal efficiency without them. They have no use except for commandos, swat teams and paramilitary organisations.</p>
<p>“This is part of the plague that has come with the drug culture in the inner cities,” she says. “Cho’s use of semi-automatic weapons can ultimately be traced back to gangsta rap. It is a fabrication of urban life which is sold to teenagers trapped in the utterly sterile shopping-mall culture of the American suburbs.”</p>
<p>“Throughout most of human history men have been armed, but with swords not guns,” Paglia observes. As the weapons grow more deadly, even a solitary “boy” can commit the worst massacre in American history. This is the 19th such scenario in the past decade. Unfortunately it is unlikely to be the last. </p></blockquote>
<p>So American male violence is due to blacks and gangster rap.</p>
<p>What also annoys me right now is the focus of the investigation on his ties to Emily Hilscher. They are trying to play up Yellow Peril stereotype to keep white women away from Asian men.</p>
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		<title>By: Lina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 15:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just did a blog post on this (actually, all I was doing was drawing attention to this, I&#039;ve really not said anything at all other than it left me speechless, not terribly interesting) and I had a commenter telling me more or less that I gave feminism a bad name.... Another interesting interpretation...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just did a blog post on this (actually, all I was doing was drawing attention to this, I&#8217;ve really not said anything at all other than it left me speechless, not terribly interesting) and I had a commenter telling me more or less that I gave feminism a bad name&#8230;. Another interesting interpretation&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: preying mantis</title>
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		<dc:creator>preying mantis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 13:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hey, Dr. Genius, think there’s any possibility there that the men who are killing themselves &lt;em&gt;might be depressed&lt;/em&gt;?&quot;

Pfft.  Everyone knows that men kill themselves for the same reasons ninja do--they get super pissed and can’t find anybody else to kill.    It certainly can&#039;t be depression.  Everyone knows that testicles are nature&#039;s cure for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hey, Dr. Genius, think there’s any possibility there that the men who are killing themselves <em>might be depressed</em>?&#8221;</p>
<p>Pfft.  Everyone knows that men kill themselves for the same reasons ninja do&#8211;they get super pissed and can’t find anybody else to kill.    It certainly can&#8217;t be depression.  Everyone knows that testicles are nature&#8217;s cure for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Confused</title>
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		<dc:creator>Confused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with ali eteraz; I think that Paglia&#039;s past opinions must have caused you to read something into this that just isn&#039;t there.

I&#039;ve read the quotes several times, and I don&#039;t see where she&#039;s blaming women for the tragedy.

Where do you see it?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with ali eteraz; I think that Paglia&#8217;s past opinions must have caused you to read something into this that just isn&#8217;t there.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read the quotes several times, and I don&#8217;t see where she&#8217;s blaming women for the tragedy.</p>
<p>Where do you see it?</p>
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