Comments on: No, I did not get Anthony Ciolli fired. http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/03/no-i-did-not-get-anthony-ciolli-fired/ In defense of the sanctimonious women's studies set. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:50:52 +0000 hourly 1 By: DMS http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/03/no-i-did-not-get-anthony-ciolli-fired/#comment-103416 DMS Tue, 08 May 2007 13:40:30 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/03/no-i-did-not-get-anthony-ciolli-fired/#comment-103416 I had no idea of this whole issue, AutoAudit etc etc and when I read an allusion to it on another blog my first reaction was "Oh gee! Sounds like typical overreaction." I was so wrong. The young lawyer Ciolli is getting at least what he deserves. And then he has the gall to say that he wanted it all to be private. The law firm declined to fire him not only because he showed lack of judgement but also because he showed dangerous stupiity. I had no idea of this whole issue, AutoAudit etc etc and when I read an allusion to it on another blog my first reaction was “Oh gee! Sounds like typical overreaction.”

I was so wrong.

The young lawyer Ciolli is getting at least what he deserves. And then he has the gall to say that he wanted it all to be private. The law firm declined to fire him not only because he showed lack of judgement but also because he showed dangerous stupiity.

]]> By: Sheelzebub http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/03/no-i-did-not-get-anthony-ciolli-fired/#comment-103223 Sheelzebub Mon, 07 May 2007 15:12:44 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/03/no-i-did-not-get-anthony-ciolli-fired/#comment-103223 RKMK is right. Donahue spread lies and slander about Amanda and Shakes, and has made veiled threats against anyone who has the gall to not genuflect before the Church. His followers threatened and harassed Amanda and Shakes. Ciolli's cohorts threatened women, spread lies and slander about them, and posted their photos/identifying/contact info about them, and <i>refused to take it down</i> when asked (while allowing the liars and stalkers to remain anonymous. There is a comparison--but the similarity is between Ciolli and Donahue. RKMK is right. Donahue spread lies and slander about Amanda and Shakes, and has made veiled threats against anyone who has the gall to not genuflect before the Church. His followers threatened and harassed Amanda and Shakes.

Ciolli’s cohorts threatened women, spread lies and slander about them, and posted their photos/identifying/contact info about them, and refused to take it down when asked (while allowing the liars and stalkers to remain anonymous.

There is a comparison–but the similarity is between Ciolli and Donahue.

]]> By: car http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/03/no-i-did-not-get-anthony-ciolli-fired/#comment-103024 car Sat, 05 May 2007 21:32:23 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/03/no-i-did-not-get-anthony-ciolli-fired/#comment-103024 I think a big part of it was that he didn't disavow any of it when specifically asked by said employer. If he had been smart, he would have at least realized that the proper way to backpedal was to decry everything that happened on the board and make it clear that he didn't agree with it rather than saying "first amendment" and "I didn't ban anything". From the clip of the firm's statement that was in the news article, they were the most concerned that he seemed to show no sense of understanding that the comments on his website were inappropriate and mean. So, basically, it's pretty simple. They didn't want to hire a dick. He proved that he was, indeed, a dick. So, they didn't hire him. I think a big part of it was that he didn’t disavow any of it when specifically asked by said employer. If he had been smart, he would have at least realized that the proper way to backpedal was to decry everything that happened on the board and make it clear that he didn’t agree with it rather than saying “first amendment” and “I didn’t ban anything”. From the clip of the firm’s statement that was in the news article, they were the most concerned that he seemed to show no sense of understanding that the comments on his website were inappropriate and mean.

So, basically, it’s pretty simple. They didn’t want to hire a dick. He proved that he was, indeed, a dick. So, they didn’t hire him.

]]> By: Clayton http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/03/no-i-did-not-get-anthony-ciolli-fired/#comment-102999 Clayton Sat, 05 May 2007 15:30:47 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/03/no-i-did-not-get-anthony-ciolli-fired/#comment-102999 I dunno, Jill. I'm kind of sad you didn't get Ciolli fired. I dunno, Jill. I’m kind of sad you didn’t get Ciolli fired.

]]> By: Anne http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/03/no-i-did-not-get-anthony-ciolli-fired/#comment-102997 Anne Sat, 05 May 2007 15:21:11 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/03/no-i-did-not-get-anthony-ciolli-fired/#comment-102997 Well, once you realize that disagreeing with and making fun of "men, fathers, and Christians" is as bad as and probably worse than publishing names, addresses, and photos of women along with highly descriptive threats, then it all makes sense, doesn't it? *snark* Well, once you realize that disagreeing with and making fun of “men, fathers, and Christians” is as bad as and probably worse than publishing names, addresses, and photos of women along with highly descriptive threats, then it all makes sense, doesn’t it? *snark*

]]> By: Rebecca http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/03/no-i-did-not-get-anthony-ciolli-fired/#comment-102950 Rebecca Sat, 05 May 2007 01:25:26 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/03/no-i-did-not-get-anthony-ciolli-fired/#comment-102950 Pinko Punko may have been referring to narcissism, but the term "sociopath" also springs to mind. I too am enjoying the schaudenfraude. Karma is a wonderful thing. Pinko Punko may have been referring to narcissism, but the term “sociopath” also springs to mind.

I too am enjoying the schaudenfraude. Karma is a wonderful thing.

]]> By: RKMK http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/03/no-i-did-not-get-anthony-ciolli-fired/#comment-102943 RKMK Sat, 05 May 2007 00:49:33 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/03/no-i-did-not-get-anthony-ciolli-fired/#comment-102943 I fail to see the similarity in the situation at all; in fact if Ciolli is comparable to anyone in that ridiculous wank, it would be Donahoe. I fail to see the similarity in the situation at all; in fact if Ciolli is comparable to anyone in that ridiculous wank, it would be Donahoe.

]]> By: Mnemosyne http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/03/no-i-did-not-get-anthony-ciolli-fired/#comment-102942 Mnemosyne Sat, 05 May 2007 00:47:26 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/03/no-i-did-not-get-anthony-ciolli-fired/#comment-102942 <blockquote>I have to make dinner for my family, so I will bow out after this, but many of us believe that actively provided a forum for harassment, threats, and hate speech is what Amanda does in terms of men, fathers, and Christians.</blockquote> Ironically, Amanda is very uncomfortable with this development, even though several people at Pandagon have pointed out the differences, so you're actually in the position of <strong>agreeing</strong> with her as you disagree with the rest of us. But, as others have said, please point out where Amanda allowed or facilitated people in following and taking pictures of private citizens and then posting their full names, addresses, and photographs online, along with commentary about how "rapeable" they are or how much Amanda and her readers would like to "hate-fuck" them.

I have to make dinner for my family, so I will bow out after this, but many of us believe that actively provided a forum for harassment, threats, and hate speech is what Amanda does in terms of men, fathers, and Christians.

Ironically, Amanda is very uncomfortable with this development, even though several people at Pandagon have pointed out the differences, so you’re actually in the position of agreeing with her as you disagree with the rest of us.

But, as others have said, please point out where Amanda allowed or facilitated people in following and taking pictures of private citizens and then posting their full names, addresses, and photographs online, along with commentary about how “rapeable” they are or how much Amanda and her readers would like to “hate-fuck” them.

]]> By: sunburned counsel http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/03/no-i-did-not-get-anthony-ciolli-fired/#comment-102928 sunburned counsel Fri, 04 May 2007 22:58:28 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/03/no-i-did-not-get-anthony-ciolli-fired/#comment-102928 Amanda raised this same concern over at Pandagon. It's an interesting parallel, but I see huge differences. Amanda raised this same concern over at Pandagon. It’s an interesting parallel, but I see huge differences.

]]> By: Sally http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/03/no-i-did-not-get-anthony-ciolli-fired/#comment-102927 Sally Fri, 04 May 2007 22:31:58 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/03/no-i-did-not-get-anthony-ciolli-fired/#comment-102927 erm, people, not people's. My brain is not working very well today. erm, people, not people’s. My brain is not working very well today.

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