Comments on: And I used to like pink shirts. http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/05/and-i-used-to-like-pink-shirts/ In defense of the sanctimonious women's studies set. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:18:49 +0000 hourly 1 By: Willa http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/05/and-i-used-to-like-pink-shirts/#comment-103988 Willa Thu, 10 May 2007 22:15:52 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/05/and-i-used-to-like-pink-shirts/#comment-103988 Thanks Frumious B, zuzu, and Nomie--I was in a huff when I posted that complaint (which is why one should wait a while before posting something on the Net, natch), but in the end I'm glad I posted, to see your replies. Lynn: Ahhh, so that's the deal on Paris Hilton. Yeah, the hypocrisy is definitely obnoxious. Thanks for explaining (and I don't think you or anyone else was being overly harsh on her, now that I see what the problem was, really). /reviving dead thread Thanks Frumious B, zuzu, and Nomie–I was in a huff when I posted that complaint (which is why one should wait a while before posting something on the Net, natch), but in the end I’m glad I posted, to see your replies.

Lynn: Ahhh, so that’s the deal on Paris Hilton. Yeah, the hypocrisy is definitely obnoxious. Thanks for explaining (and I don’t think you or anyone else was being overly harsh on her, now that I see what the problem was, really).

/reviving dead thread

]]> By: Lynn Gazis-Sax http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/05/and-i-used-to-like-pink-shirts/#comment-103757 Lynn Gazis-Sax Thu, 10 May 2007 04:25:21 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/05/and-i-used-to-like-pink-shirts/#comment-103757 I suppose, though, I shouldn't be so quick to dump on even Paris Hilton. The way Britney Spears bugged some people when younger (but not really me) because of a particular combination of loudly proclaimed virginity and dressing super sexy, Paris Hilton bugs me because of her own particular combination of not doing much, expecting privileges (like her current appeal to Schwarzenegger to get her off the hook on that sentence for driving without a license), and putting down people who've worked harder than she has. But it's still not fair of me to make her my stock figure to mock. I suppose, though, I shouldn’t be so quick to dump on even Paris Hilton. The way Britney Spears bugged some people when younger (but not really me) because of a particular combination of loudly proclaimed virginity and dressing super sexy, Paris Hilton bugs me because of her own particular combination of not doing much, expecting privileges (like her current appeal to Schwarzenegger to get her off the hook on that sentence for driving without a license), and putting down people who’ve worked harder than she has. But it’s still not fair of me to make her my stock figure to mock.

]]> By: Nomie http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/05/and-i-used-to-like-pink-shirts/#comment-103749 Nomie Thu, 10 May 2007 03:33:11 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/05/and-i-used-to-like-pink-shirts/#comment-103749 My parents went to state schools - and Mom for both undergrad and grad work. And I'm at a state school right now for grad school. And I would have gone to a state school for college as well if I hadn't lucked out with financial aid (due in no small part to being a minority student at a whitebread Ivy-safety-safety school). My parents went to state schools – and Mom for both undergrad and grad work. And I’m at a state school right now for grad school. And I would have gone to a state school for college as well if I hadn’t lucked out with financial aid (due in no small part to being a minority student at a whitebread Ivy-safety-safety school).

]]> By: Lynn Gazis-Sax http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/05/and-i-used-to-like-pink-shirts/#comment-103744 Lynn Gazis-Sax Thu, 10 May 2007 03:17:04 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/05/and-i-used-to-like-pink-shirts/#comment-103744 <em>There’s a lot of things I don’t like about Paris Hilton, but academic snobbery trumps her vacuity. Is it because she didn’t APPLY HERSELF? Is it because she squandered her opportunities? Why the hate and disdain, folks?</em> OK, I'm sorry if my remark about Paris Hilton came off as a put down of people <em>in general</em> who dropped out of high school rather than going to Princeton. I dislike Paris Hilton <em>in particular</em> because she combines having dropped out of high school with having made snobbish remarks putting down people who went to public high schools (as I did, and, well, most people did). Just being an ordinary person who went to a public school like nearly everyone else in the world and didn't happen to finish is a different sort of thing from disdaining people who graduated from ordinary old public schools instead of being elite enough to, like you, drop out of the private school your parents could afford to pay for. As it happened, I did get the scholarships for a private school, but I had the state school all ready in case that money hadn't come through. No way my parents could have paid my way otherwise. There’s a lot of things I don’t like about Paris Hilton, but academic snobbery trumps her vacuity. Is it because she didn’t APPLY HERSELF? Is it because she squandered her opportunities? Why the hate and disdain, folks?

OK, I’m sorry if my remark about Paris Hilton came off as a put down of people in general who dropped out of high school rather than going to Princeton. I dislike Paris Hilton in particular because she combines having dropped out of high school with having made snobbish remarks putting down people who went to public high schools (as I did, and, well, most people did). Just being an ordinary person who went to a public school like nearly everyone else in the world and didn’t happen to finish is a different sort of thing from disdaining people who graduated from ordinary old public schools instead of being elite enough to, like you, drop out of the private school your parents could afford to pay for.

As it happened, I did get the scholarships for a private school, but I had the state school all ready in case that money hadn’t come through. No way my parents could have paid my way otherwise.

]]> By: zuzu http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/05/and-i-used-to-like-pink-shirts/#comment-103742 zuzu Thu, 10 May 2007 02:53:23 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/05/and-i-used-to-like-pink-shirts/#comment-103742 <blockquote>Am I the only Feminste reader who actually went to a state college because it was what I could afford and my HS GPA wasn’t enough to get me anywhere swanky w/ scholarships? Am I the only one who has siblings who dropped out of high school? Is there anyone who reads this blog who DID drop of out high school?</blockquote> I went to state schools for my BA (UConn) and JD (Michigan). Granted, Michigan was all prestigious and shit, but I certainly didn't leave UConn with the sense that I was *entitled* to get into Michigan Law. In fact, just the opposite -- I kicked ass on my LSATs but for various reasons (basically, being unobsessed by the USN&WR rankings) it caught me by surprise when, during orientation, everybody started talking about what a highly-ranked school it was. I even went to the Dean of Admissions to ask him how I'd gotten in (FTR, great LSATs, decent grades plus amusing essay and interesting pre-law-school career (journalism)).

Am I the only Feminste reader who actually went to a state college because it was what I could afford and my HS GPA wasn’t enough to get me anywhere swanky w/ scholarships? Am I the only one who has siblings who dropped out of high school? Is there anyone who reads this blog who DID drop of out high school?

I went to state schools for my BA (UConn) and JD (Michigan). Granted, Michigan was all prestigious and shit, but I certainly didn’t leave UConn with the sense that I was *entitled* to get into Michigan Law. In fact, just the opposite — I kicked ass on my LSATs but for various reasons (basically, being unobsessed by the USN&WR rankings) it caught me by surprise when, during orientation, everybody started talking about what a highly-ranked school it was. I even went to the Dean of Admissions to ask him how I’d gotten in (FTR, great LSATs, decent grades plus amusing essay and interesting pre-law-school career (journalism)).

]]> By: Maridia http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/05/and-i-used-to-like-pink-shirts/#comment-103739 Maridia Thu, 10 May 2007 02:45:31 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/05/and-i-used-to-like-pink-shirts/#comment-103739 I uh...don't see anything impressive or different. It's not that I'm clueless, but their attitudes are all typical for a group of people that age who have known eachother for a long time. All I see is the journalist saying "omg let's laugh and mock them for going to a prestiegous school." They've earned what they're getting, good on them. Though what is dissappointing is watching someone go to one of these schools and finding satisfaction in running a bar. If your education is extraordinary, then go do extraordinary things. I uh…don’t see anything impressive or different.
It’s not that I’m clueless, but their attitudes are all typical for a group of people that age who have known eachother for a long time.
All I see is the journalist saying “omg let’s laugh and mock them for going to a prestiegous school.”
They’ve earned what they’re getting, good on them.

Though what is dissappointing is watching someone go to one of these schools and finding satisfaction in running a bar.

If your education is extraordinary, then go do extraordinary things.

]]> By: Frumious B http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/05/and-i-used-to-like-pink-shirts/#comment-103542 Frumious B Wed, 09 May 2007 14:49:15 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/05/and-i-used-to-like-pink-shirts/#comment-103542 State schools, both BS (funded by loans and pell grants) and PhD (funded by TA's and RA's). One sibling with a BS (private school, full scholarship), one with an MS (state school), and one sibling who didn't finish his AA and is quite happy, thank you. Somehow I have managed to have a mostly happy and successful life despite the lack of Ivy cred. State schools, both BS (funded by loans and pell grants) and PhD (funded by TA’s and RA’s). One sibling with a BS (private school, full scholarship), one with an MS (state school), and one sibling who didn’t finish his AA and is quite happy, thank you. Somehow I have managed to have a mostly happy and successful life despite the lack of Ivy cred.

]]> By: Willa http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/05/and-i-used-to-like-pink-shirts/#comment-103535 Willa Wed, 09 May 2007 14:33:25 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/05/and-i-used-to-like-pink-shirts/#comment-103535 Am I the only Feminste reader who actually went to a state college because it was what I could afford and my HS GPA wasn't enough to get me anywhere swanky w/ scholarships? Am I the only one who has siblings who dropped out of high school? Is there anyone who reads this blog who DID drop of out high school? There's a lot of things I don't like about Paris Hilton, but academic snobbery trumps her vacuity. Is it because she didn't APPLY HERSELF? Is it because she squandered her opportunities? Why the hate and disdain, folks? I feel silly for reviving this dead thread to whine, but still. I feel so alone. I can't be the only person here who didn't go to an elite school or give up going to an elite school for personal reasons. Where's all the other plebes? Am I the only Feminste reader who actually went to a state college because it was what I could afford and my HS GPA wasn’t enough to get me anywhere swanky w/ scholarships? Am I the only one who has siblings who dropped out of high school? Is there anyone who reads this blog who DID drop of out high school?

There’s a lot of things I don’t like about Paris Hilton, but academic snobbery trumps her vacuity. Is it because she didn’t APPLY HERSELF? Is it because she squandered her opportunities? Why the hate and disdain, folks?

I feel silly for reviving this dead thread to whine, but still. I feel so alone. I can’t be the only person here who didn’t go to an elite school or give up going to an elite school for personal reasons. Where’s all the other plebes?

]]> By: East4st_Improv http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/05/and-i-used-to-like-pink-shirts/#comment-103472 East4st_Improv Tue, 08 May 2007 22:57:45 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/05/and-i-used-to-like-pink-shirts/#comment-103472 <blockquote>I’m not sure why this matters, or why I would take responsibility for him, but Mr. Theodore Cleary, while he may have gone to Friends Academy, most certainly did not graduate from there. Weird thing to lie about. </blockquote> Not Friends Academy but apparently my little bro went to Westtown School, an old Quaker school (very crunchy/vegan), with this "ladies man." What a dumb call to be in this article but sounds to me like the Westtown "anti-pink" reputation might be why the author opted to name his previous school.

I’m not sure why this matters, or why I would take responsibility for him, but Mr. Theodore Cleary, while he may have gone to Friends Academy, most certainly did not graduate from there. Weird thing to lie about.

Not Friends Academy but apparently my little bro went to Westtown School, an old Quaker school (very crunchy/vegan), with this “ladies man.” What a dumb call to be in this article but sounds to me like the Westtown “anti-pink” reputation might be why the author opted to name his previous school.

]]> By: BStu http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/05/and-i-used-to-like-pink-shirts/#comment-103436 BStu Tue, 08 May 2007 16:27:29 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/05/and-i-used-to-like-pink-shirts/#comment-103436 I don't think pink is hard for a guy to pull off. I used to stay away from pink, but recently started dabling with it again and I find it to be a really great color to work with. Helps to not be an insufferably vacant twit, of course. I don’t think pink is hard for a guy to pull off. I used to stay away from pink, but recently started dabling with it again and I find it to be a really great color to work with.

Helps to not be an insufferably vacant twit, of course.

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