Comments on: The Good Abortion http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/07/the-good-abortion/ In defense of the sanctimonious women's studies set. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:13:48 +0000 hourly 1 By: iuwlqlsv http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/07/the-good-abortion/#comment-104318 iuwlqlsv Sat, 12 May 2007 01:13:54 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/07/the-good-abortion/#comment-104318 <strong>iuwlqlsv</strong> iuwlqlsv iuwlqlsv

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]]> By: Riva http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/07/the-good-abortion/#comment-104026 Riva Fri, 11 May 2007 01:14:49 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/07/the-good-abortion/#comment-104026 Maybe I'm just being picky, but it also irritates me how often the fact that a woman has already had children and doesn't want any more is used to make her appear more deserving of an abortion than a woman who chooses never to have children. It's as though all women have a motherly duty, and only after they have fulfilled this are they fully deserving of reproductive rights. Even feminists cite this argument. My interpretation of intent may be wrong, though; maybe most of the time it's more for the purpose of stereotype-breaking and the reinforcement of the view that women who have children at some point are better than women who don't is just an unfortunate side effect. Maybe I’m just being picky, but it also irritates me how often the fact that a woman has already had children and doesn’t want any more is used to make her appear more deserving of an abortion than a woman who chooses never to have children. It’s as though all women have a motherly duty, and only after they have fulfilled this are they fully deserving of reproductive rights. Even feminists cite this argument.

My interpretation of intent may be wrong, though; maybe most of the time it’s more for the purpose of stereotype-breaking and the reinforcement of the view that women who have children at some point are better than women who don’t is just an unfortunate side effect.

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]]> By: Hector B. http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/07/the-good-abortion/#comment-103760 Hector B. Thu, 10 May 2007 04:41:27 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/07/the-good-abortion/#comment-103760 <blockquote>I dont agree with every decision to have an abortion either, but its none of my freaking business and its certainly not my place to condemn someone for making a choice other than I would make. If she said her abortion was a good thing, then it was, because it enabled her to live her life in the manner she chose. </blockquote> Yup. I endorse this point of view 100%.

I dont agree with every decision to have an abortion either, but its none of my freaking business and its certainly not my place to condemn someone for making a choice other than I would make. If she said her abortion was a good thing, then it was, because it enabled her to live her life in the manner she chose.

Yup. I endorse this point of view 100%.

]]> By: Julie http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/07/the-good-abortion/#comment-103691 Julie Wed, 09 May 2007 23:44:57 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/07/the-good-abortion/#comment-103691 No, Tony you absolutely do not have to agree with every decision a person makes, but there is a huge difference between thinking to yourself that you dont agree with the decision, and blasting someone for being lazy and irresponsible. 50% of pregnancies in this country are unplanned, and a good majority of women have had at least one. Telling people in general to just not have sex is ignorant as 95% of Americans have premarital sex, and this was a married woman on top of that. Youre just not supposed to have sex with your husband? Mine would be really appreciative of that decision, I could see it now. I get so freaking sick of tired of this "Of course I support a womans right to choose, but youre a selfish bitch because you had an abortion because it was the right decision for you" The circumstances of conception DO NOT MATTER. I dont agree with every decision to have an abortion either, but its none of my freaking business and its certainly not my place to condemn someone for making a choice other than I would make. If she said her abortion was a good thing, then it was, because it enabled her to live her life in the manner she chose. No, Tony you absolutely do not have to agree with every decision a person makes, but there is a huge difference between thinking to yourself that you dont agree with the decision, and blasting someone for being lazy and irresponsible. 50% of pregnancies in this country are unplanned, and a good majority of women have had at least one. Telling people in general to just not have sex is ignorant as 95% of Americans have premarital sex, and this was a married woman on top of that. Youre just not supposed to have sex with your husband? Mine would be really appreciative of that decision, I could see it now. I get so freaking sick of tired of this “Of course I support a womans right to choose, but youre a selfish bitch because you had an abortion because it was the right decision for you” The circumstances of conception DO NOT MATTER. I dont agree with every decision to have an abortion either, but its none of my freaking business and its certainly not my place to condemn someone for making a choice other than I would make. If she said her abortion was a good thing, then it was, because it enabled her to live her life in the manner she chose.

]]> By: Medicine Man http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/07/the-good-abortion/#comment-103679 Medicine Man Wed, 09 May 2007 23:11:10 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/07/the-good-abortion/#comment-103679 An interesting page I came across via Andrew Sullivan, of all places: http://mypage.direct.ca/w/writer/anti-tales.html Interesting and difficult at the same time. An interesting page I came across via Andrew Sullivan, of all places:

http://mypage.direct.ca/w/writer/anti-tales.html

Interesting and difficult at the same time.

]]> By: ekf http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/07/the-good-abortion/#comment-103644 ekf Wed, 09 May 2007 20:37:08 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/07/the-good-abortion/#comment-103644 <blockquote>But I think that’s all the more reason to keep talking about it, because honesty and openness normalizes it. Clamming up only aids in continuing the stigma. </blockquote> Hear, hear! Some pregnancies are mistakes, for whatever reason, but they're mistakes made by a shitload of people considered "normal" and "respectable" -- as well they should, of course. But because the stereotype of a woman who has had an abortion is slut-shamed into a weird shell of selfishness, monstrousness and venality, the stories of people who are "normal" and "respectable," even if they are imperfect, are important in dispelling the stereotype.

But I think that’s all the more reason to keep talking about it, because honesty and openness normalizes it. Clamming up only aids in continuing the stigma.

Hear, hear! Some pregnancies are mistakes, for whatever reason, but they’re mistakes made by a shitload of people considered “normal” and “respectable” — as well they should, of course. But because the stereotype of a woman who has had an abortion is slut-shamed into a weird shell of selfishness, monstrousness and venality, the stories of people who are “normal” and “respectable,” even if they are imperfect, are important in dispelling the stereotype.

]]> By: Jill http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/07/the-good-abortion/#comment-103640 Jill Wed, 09 May 2007 20:23:40 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/07/the-good-abortion/#comment-103640 <blockquote>This is why I dislike these kinds of articles. No offense, Jill. But this happens every single time. If any reasons are given, those reasons are endlessly reviewed, judged, and picked apart. I’ve never seen it NOT happen. </blockquote> So... the solution is to just shut up about it? Not give reasons? Yes, women are going to be picked apart for their choices. I know that. But I think that's all the more reason to keep talking about it, because honesty and openness normalizes it. Clamming up only aids in continuing the stigma.

This is why I dislike these kinds of articles. No offense, Jill. But this happens every single time.

If any reasons are given, those reasons are endlessly reviewed, judged, and picked apart.

I’ve never seen it NOT happen.

So… the solution is to just shut up about it? Not give reasons? Yes, women are going to be picked apart for their choices. I know that. But I think that’s all the more reason to keep talking about it, because honesty and openness normalizes it. Clamming up only aids in continuing the stigma.

]]> By: sophonisba http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/07/the-good-abortion/#comment-103637 sophonisba Wed, 09 May 2007 20:19:23 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/07/the-good-abortion/#comment-103637 <blockquote>If you don’t want to get pregnant don’t have sex, or be very careful about it, at least.</blockquote> That how you've managed to avoid pregnancy, is it, Tony? Tell us more, Tony, about the way you've prevented the need for an abortion of your very own. Tony. Your uterus could teach ours some valuable lessons, I bet.

If you don’t want to get pregnant don’t have sex, or be very careful about it, at least.

That how you’ve managed to avoid pregnancy, is it, Tony?

Tell us more, Tony, about the way you’ve prevented the need for an abortion of your very own. Tony. Your uterus could teach ours some valuable lessons, I bet.

]]> By: MrSoul http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/07/the-good-abortion/#comment-103635 MrSoul Wed, 09 May 2007 20:10:11 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/07/the-good-abortion/#comment-103635 This is why I dislike these kinds of articles. No offense, Jill. But this happens <em>every single time. </em> If <em>any </em>reasons are given, those reasons are endlessly reviewed, judged, and picked apart. I've never seen it NOT happen. This is why I dislike these kinds of articles. No offense, Jill. But this happens every single time.

If any reasons are given, those reasons are endlessly reviewed, judged, and picked apart.

I’ve never seen it NOT happen.

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