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  1. Jessica
    Jessica May 15, 2007 at 2:18 am |

    My old roommate was a Disney employee. She is amazed that she didn’t die of alcohol poisoning after a year of binge drinking 6 days/week. This coming from a twenty five year old.
    Apparently preserving the magic is hilarious once you realize that both Prince Charmings are gay and Snow White is screwing one of the mice back at your apartment.

  2. Mipa
    Mipa May 15, 2007 at 4:58 am |

    Welcome Flea
    Thanks for the great post!

  3. bean
    bean May 15, 2007 at 5:57 am |

    I hadn’t thought of this connection before, but I think it’s eerily accurate. Managed reality? check! Question is, how long until the walls start to crumble? My sense is that, at least in terms of the Green Zone, they provide a false sense of security (perhaps the same could be said of Celebration).

  4. Catherine Martell
    Catherine Martell May 15, 2007 at 7:23 am |

    Have a look at Rajiv Chandrasekaran’s recent book, Imperial Life in the Emerald City (also plugged on The Daily Show). It’s a thoroughly shocking inside story of life in the Green Zone, and frankly Disneyworld is both a lot closer to reality and a lot less scary.

    Great post, by the way.

  5. flea
    flea May 15, 2007 at 8:41 am |

    bean – yes, I think that false sense of security is part of the deal. I guess it should be that surprising, even though I can’t recall something like the Green Zone ever flourishing to this extent in any previous wars. Conservatives love to wax nostalgic about the glorious ’50s, even though it’s clear, if you’ve read The Way We Never Were, that what they’re longing for never really existed. They’re yearning to bring back something completely fictitious.

  6. Toni
    Toni May 15, 2007 at 9:22 am |

    De-lurking to say:

    This (both Celebration & the Green Zone) reminds me of an awesome book called England, England by Julian Barnes. It’s hilarious and really topical – the basic premise is as follows:

    Sir Jack Pitman creates a theme park on the Isle of Wight that duplicates the tourist spots of England. Within easy walking distance are replicas of Big Ben (half size), Princess Di’s grave, Harrods, Stonehenge, and the white cliffs of Dover. Martha Cochrane is hired by Sir Jack as his official cynic. The novel follows her development from childhood to retirement as a nation struggles to retain its cultural identity. One of Barnes’s finest and funniest novels, England, England calls into question the idea of replicas, truth vs. fiction, reality vs. art, nationhood, myth-making, and self-exploration.

    OT: Also, if you’re not reading any Julian Barnes, please please start. He’s fantastic.

  7. Jen in Ohio
    Jen in Ohio May 15, 2007 at 9:49 am |

    Celebration is a town for people who do not want to deal with American Reality, so instead they’ve created “American” “Reality” and have come to an agreement to believe that what they want life to be, is what life actually is.

    And in this way, it’s not really so different from the midwest. I mean, I’ve only been in suburban Ohio for a year, but the notion that folks “have come to an agreement to believe that what they want life to be, is what life actually is” just about sums it up ’round here.

    Apparently preserving the magic is hilarious once you realize that both Prince Charmings are gay and Snow White is screwing one of the mice back at your apartment.

    Similarly, not so different from the midwest!

  8. Djinna
    Djinna May 15, 2007 at 10:19 am |

    Apologies for the tangent, but Chumbawumba did a great song about Celebration, FL.

    Not going to be able to get that one out of my head today, but that’s ok, because it’s beautiful AND subversive.

  9. Tapetum
    Tapetum May 15, 2007 at 10:25 am |

    I always knew there was a reason our little rural Iowa town had a) a tremendous number of churchs, and b) roughly twice that number of bars. They loved to think of themselves as a lovely, simple little town with old-fashioned values, merrily ignoring the teenagers drinking themselves into oblivion trying to avoid the stultifying lack of anything to do, and the meth labs in various houses scattered throughout town.

    And they thought I was weird.

  10. zuzu
    zuzu May 15, 2007 at 10:36 am | *

    Conservatives love to wax nostalgic about the glorious ’50s, even though it’s clear, if you’ve read The Way We Never Were, that what they’re longing for never really existed.

    I just picked that book up (and by “picked up,” I mean literally — it was set out on someone’s stoop for the taking). I’ve been meaning to read it for a while.

    Great post, and welcome aboard!

  11. Linnaeus
    Linnaeus May 15, 2007 at 11:36 am |

    And in this way, it’s not really so different from the midwest. I mean, I’ve only been in suburban Ohio for a year, but the notion that folks “have come to an agreement to believe that what they want life to be, is what life actually is” just about sums it up ’round here.

    I’d say that sums up much of suburban America, regardless of location.

  12. Bolo
    Bolo May 15, 2007 at 11:58 am |

    The Green Zone is certainly a strange little slice of America that is being exported into Iraq. Similarly, try looking for information on what some of our other bases in Japan, etc. are like–very similar. We export our way of life for our soldiers and build bases with shopping malls and golf courses.

    I don’t know what it’s like now, but I’ve heard that the Panama Canal Zone that the US owned and operated until ~1999 used to be run like a high-class resort community for the workers and soldiers there.

  13. hp
    hp May 15, 2007 at 1:03 pm |

    You might be old :D but from what I heard in the late 1990s (when at college, with actor-buddies who did the Disney thing over the summer) nothing much has changed. Maybe that bar is gone, but drinking yourself blotto enough to be able to coast half-conscious through the next day still goes on.

  14. little cabbage
    little cabbage May 15, 2007 at 4:58 pm |

    OT: Also, if you’re not reading any Julian Barnes, please please start. He’s fantastic.

    Sorry, just gotta second this. His A History of the World in 10 1/2 Chapters is one of the most insightful political (and everything else) commentaries I’ve ever read.

  15. SJ
    SJ May 15, 2007 at 9:34 pm |

    Yay! Fun! I’m glad you’re here.

  16. flea
    flea May 15, 2007 at 11:02 pm |

    Hi SJ! I’ve been a fan of your blog for a long time. There really is no better title for a blog’s archives than “Old Asshole.” I saw that years ago and fell in love for life.

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