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  1. belledame222
    belledame222 May 19, 2007 at 3:46 pm |

    Welcome back.

  2. Joseph Kugelmass
    Joseph Kugelmass May 19, 2007 at 4:02 pm |


    Thanks so much for providing the links to BlackAmazon, Ilyka, Sylvia, and the rest.

    As for individuated spelling, we have to consider the possibility that the Queer Dewd wants to be called Quare Dewd right now (see his blog).

    The substantive comments I made about Full Frontal Feminism are here.

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  4. hk
    hk May 19, 2007 at 4:35 pm |

    First, I admit it, I have not read the book, so really I shouldn’t be making a comment. Second, the day someone writes a book that all feminists agree is a good book is the day hell freezes over. Since I do not believe in hell, you can see how likely I think that is ever going to happen.

    Here is the quandary as I see it (yes this is totally my opinion). Jessica is a white and privileged woman. She wrote a book based on her experiences as a privileged white woman, so that is who the book will generally cater to, whether Jessica or anyone else likes it or not.

    Even if the book had an in-depth long section or sections regarding woc-specific feminism she would still be writing it from her vantage point, not as a woc. So unless she got a co-author to write that section of the book she would probably seem to sound condescending or be just plain wrong or something else. From my reading experience of the blogs and blog responses on this type of issue, this just seems to always be how the arguements end up going. I totally understand the arguement and agree that she, with her life experiences, just did not write a book that has a lot of meaning or use for woc. I just wonder if anybody thinks she could have been able to write this style of book and include anything truly meaningful for anyone but a general white woman that would have been good enough to not still be criticized? I dunno, and honestly I’m really kind of just wondering out loud at this point, so don’t beat up on me too bad for my comment.

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  6. Lauren
    Lauren May 19, 2007 at 6:17 pm |

    Very OT, but Formal Feline Shorts is the best blog name ever.

  7. lovelesscynic
    lovelesscynic May 19, 2007 at 6:54 pm |

    actually it’s Feline Formal Shorts, but agreed.

  8. Holly
    Holly May 19, 2007 at 8:20 pm |

    OMG I just wrote an e-mail to you being all excited about Whipping Girl, which I found a copy of today randomly while on a scavenger hunt.

    I don’t have a lot to say about FFF, other than that from what I’ve read hk’s comment makes perfect sense to me. I wouldn’t expect Valenti to be able to write about woc feminism or even issues of younger women any more than I would expect her to write amazingly and personally about trans feminism. That’s why we need more voices and more authors, not some sort of omnibus represent-everything collection. That’s why I was excited about Serano’s book. And little light is right, as usual.

    I was just looking at that cover of Sex Changes. It was such an influential book for me when it came out. And about that picture, that particular “against the she-male porn industry” view of how trans & androgynous bodies can be hot… I feel like there’s a whole generation, at least in some communities, of queers and trans people and most specifically, trans women, who have grown up into our queer bodies and our queer desires with pictures just like that as models. Honestly, they’re not bad pictures if you’re going to have a model, but you point out very well exactly what they’re not. My formed-in-my-teens-and-twenties notion of what’s hot, how *I* can be hot even, is very much along those lines and not along lines that are… you know, actually about trans women’s bodies. Or femininity — but then, I’m not particularly femme, so I don’t know if Serano or anyone else that has a more “reclaim the feminine” alternative is going to suit me much better.

  9. Rebecca
    Rebecca May 19, 2007 at 9:15 pm |

    Thanks muchly for bringing my attention to Whipping Girl. I’m really pleased to see that someone has written a book on this topic, and reading that website makes me think I should run out and pre-order it right away.

  10. Anonymous
    Anonymous May 20, 2007 at 11:27 am |

    Hello! I figured it would be nice if I signed your guestbook. I just thought that I would visit your homepage and see what all you have been up to, well – it’s awesome!

  11. belledame222
    belledame222 May 20, 2007 at 1:17 pm |

    JK: QD is, in fact, a “she,” really.

  12. W. Kiernan
    W. Kiernan May 20, 2007 at 10:58 pm |

    A “male identified blogger”? Ha ha ha! Anyhow, teh Quare Dewd don’t lose no debates, sonny.

    Regarding the book with a belly on the cover, I haven’t read it, of course, so I can’t tell for sure that most of this jade-colored criticism of it is a bunch of shit, but I strongly suspect from the tone of it that that might be the case. What ever happened to “Let a Thousand Flowers Bloom,” huh? Now we wonder why our revolution never grows, killing motherfuckers for stepping on our toes.

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