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	<description>In defense of the sanctimonious women&#039;s studies set.</description>
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		<title>By: Mnemosyne</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/24/prosecuting-pregnant-drug-addicted-mothers/#comment-107049</link>
		<dc:creator>Mnemosyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 16:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;In OT news, my name appears on the pass list for the California Bar Exam.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Congratulations!  That&#039;s a great accomplishment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In OT news, my name appears on the pass list for the California Bar Exam.</p></blockquote>
<p>Congratulations!  That&#8217;s a great accomplishment!</p>
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		<title>By: bluestockingsrs</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/24/prosecuting-pregnant-drug-addicted-mothers/#comment-107047</link>
		<dc:creator>bluestockingsrs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 16:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, mythago.

It is a pretty big thing. I am beyond excited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, mythago.</p>
<p>It is a pretty big thing. I am beyond excited.</p>
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		<title>By: mythago</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/24/prosecuting-pregnant-drug-addicted-mothers/#comment-107003</link>
		<dc:creator>mythago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 05:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and bluestocking, CONGRATULATIONS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and bluestocking, CONGRATULATIONS!</p>
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		<title>By: mythago</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/24/prosecuting-pregnant-drug-addicted-mothers/#comment-107002</link>
		<dc:creator>mythago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 05:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What terrible lies. We all know that second-hand smoke is harmless, and in fact, makes you extra-cool, just like smokers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What terrible lies. We all know that second-hand smoke is harmless, and in fact, makes you extra-cool, just like smokers.</p>
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		<title>By: preying mantis</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/24/prosecuting-pregnant-drug-addicted-mothers/#comment-106961</link>
		<dc:creator>preying mantis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 19:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Smokers are really persecuted innocents.&quot;

But they make whipped-cream out of chilled baby&#039;s blood!  They put it on their minced-baby pies!  There&#039;s even a Truth ad devoted to the practice!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Smokers are really persecuted innocents.&#8221;</p>
<p>But they make whipped-cream out of chilled baby&#8217;s blood!  They put it on their minced-baby pies!  There&#8217;s even a Truth ad devoted to the practice!</p>
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		<title>By: mythago</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/24/prosecuting-pregnant-drug-addicted-mothers/#comment-106954</link>
		<dc:creator>mythago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 18:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Everyone knows smokers are ogres with a particular taste for the sweet flesh of suckling babes.&lt;/i&gt;

What an awful misconception. Smokers are really persecuted innocents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Everyone knows smokers are ogres with a particular taste for the sweet flesh of suckling babes.</i></p>
<p>What an awful misconception. Smokers are really persecuted innocents.</p>
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		<title>By: preying mantis</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/24/prosecuting-pregnant-drug-addicted-mothers/#comment-106950</link>
		<dc:creator>preying mantis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 17:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Just thought this was interesting:

From this week’s Dear Prudie&quot;

Dear lord, that woman&#039;s going to let her mother near her infant?  What is she thinking?  Everyone knows smokers are ogres with a particular taste for the sweet flesh of suckling babes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Just thought this was interesting:</p>
<p>From this week’s Dear Prudie&#8221;</p>
<p>Dear lord, that woman&#8217;s going to let her mother near her infant?  What is she thinking?  Everyone knows smokers are ogres with a particular taste for the sweet flesh of suckling babes.</p>
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		<title>By: bluestockingsrs</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/24/prosecuting-pregnant-drug-addicted-mothers/#comment-106949</link>
		<dc:creator>bluestockingsrs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 17:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The reason the Equal Protection arguments are less successful is because the Court has established particular rules for enforcing the EP doctrine. The basic idea is that in order for a law to violate the EP clause, it must be discriminatory in its intent — which sounds reasonable enough, but in practice it means that you basically have to prove that someone is out to get you based on your race. It’s almost an impossible standard to meet. Proving that a law is applied disproportionately is not sufficient to prove an EP violation.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Now, I remember that in &lt;i&gt;Yick Wo&lt;/i&gt; the court found that the law was fair on its face but was being applied in a discriminatory manner against the Chinese in SF. Granted, this reasoning was completely abandoned in &lt;i&gt;Plessy&lt;/i&gt; a few years later, but it is possible to prove that a law is being enforced unfairly. That whole, &quot;though it be fair on its face&quot; quote from the court.

In OT news, my name appears on the pass list for the California Bar Exam.

YAYAYAYAYAYYAY!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The reason the Equal Protection arguments are less successful is because the Court has established particular rules for enforcing the EP doctrine. The basic idea is that in order for a law to violate the EP clause, it must be discriminatory in its intent — which sounds reasonable enough, but in practice it means that you basically have to prove that someone is out to get you based on your race. It’s almost an impossible standard to meet. Proving that a law is applied disproportionately is not sufficient to prove an EP violation.</p></blockquote>
<p>Now, I remember that in <i>Yick Wo</i> the court found that the law was fair on its face but was being applied in a discriminatory manner against the Chinese in SF. Granted, this reasoning was completely abandoned in <i>Plessy</i> a few years later, but it is possible to prove that a law is being enforced unfairly. That whole, &#8220;though it be fair on its face&#8221; quote from the court.</p>
<p>In OT news, my name appears on the pass list for the California Bar Exam.</p>
<p>YAYAYAYAYAYYAY!</p>
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		<title>By: mythago</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/24/prosecuting-pregnant-drug-addicted-mothers/#comment-106941</link>
		<dc:creator>mythago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 16:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;So, does that mean laws prohibiting same-sex marriage can be overturned because they’re clearly discriminatory in intent? &lt;/i&gt;

Discriminatory on the basis of sexual orientation.

&lt;i&gt;If they don’t use drugs, then they aren’t drug addicts.&lt;/i&gt;

Drug addicts don&#039;t use 24/7, and people who have stopped using drugs often describe themselves as &#039;recovering addicts&#039;. If the original question is about whether &lt;i&gt;having an addiction&lt;/i&gt; can be a crime, no.

&lt;i&gt;Better stop or go to jail.&lt;/i&gt;

I guess on the Tony Planet, all those women who post on mommy boards asking &quot;I went to a party and had a few drinks, and I just found out I&#039;m pregnant, did I hurt my baby?&quot; should not be told &quot;Probably not&quot;, but should be clapped in irons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>So, does that mean laws prohibiting same-sex marriage can be overturned because they’re clearly discriminatory in intent? </i></p>
<p>Discriminatory on the basis of sexual orientation.</p>
<p><i>If they don’t use drugs, then they aren’t drug addicts.</i></p>
<p>Drug addicts don&#8217;t use 24/7, and people who have stopped using drugs often describe themselves as &#8216;recovering addicts&#8217;. If the original question is about whether <i>having an addiction</i> can be a crime, no.</p>
<p><i>Better stop or go to jail.</i></p>
<p>I guess on the Tony Planet, all those women who post on mommy boards asking &#8220;I went to a party and had a few drinks, and I just found out I&#8217;m pregnant, did I hurt my baby?&#8221; should not be told &#8220;Probably not&#8221;, but should be clapped in irons.</p>
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		<title>By: appletree  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; Friday Links: &#8216;Oughta Be Horsewhipped&#8217; Edition</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/05/24/prosecuting-pregnant-drug-addicted-mothers/#comment-106885</link>
		<dc:creator>appletree  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; Friday Links: &#8216;Oughta Be Horsewhipped&#8217; Edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 03:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] women who use narcotics while pregnant, even in cases where their children are not harmed. Jill Filipovic takes us through the problems inheren [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] women who use narcotics while pregnant, even in cases where their children are not harmed. Jill Filipovic takes us through the problems inheren [...]</p>
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