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  1. ilyka
    ilyka May 30, 2007 at 8:26 pm |

    What’s with the boner for Kate Moss?

    It’s not a Kate Moss boner, it’s a Female Celebrity Catfight boner, is my guess.

    Because I am Old, not just in body but in spirit, I had no idea who Beth Ditto was–but I LOVE her for resisting that trap. You could practically see drool hanging from the interviewer’s mouth at the prospect of getting some good old-fashioned “meow” quotes from Ditto about Moss, and hahaha too bad, interviewer, because she’s not playing that, and fuck you for even trying to get her to.

  2. If
    If May 30, 2007 at 8:36 pm |

    On another forum that I read, a woman posted recently saying that she’s in a rock band and people have been showing up to their shows and telling people associated with the band afterward that they didn’t want to see a fat performer on stage and that the band should ditch her because nobody will want to come see them with her in the band. She was really bummed out about it.

    One of the first replies was someone pasting in this magazine cover image. It was awesome to have a positive and assured image of a successful rocker to throw in to the thread rather than just vague textual reassurances.

  3. Amanda Marcotte
    Amanda Marcotte May 30, 2007 at 8:39 pm |

    She’s so smart and sweet. I want to be Beth Ditto when I grow up.

  4. BStu
    BStu May 30, 2007 at 8:41 pm |

    Word. Kudos to Ditto for not playing into the media’s desired narrative. It sucks that she only gets asked questions in that vein as it doesn’t allow her to really challenge the system, but its nice that she ducked the stupidity and landed some solid jabs all the same. She’s getting attention, unlike a few plus-size rockers before her (Debora Iyall, Nomy Lamm, et al) and its awesome that she’s making the most of it. Here’s hoping she gets less questions trying to instigate fights and more questions about fat activism.

  5. jay in chicago
    jay in chicago May 30, 2007 at 8:42 pm |

    Yeah, I agree with the above commenter. Beth outsmarted the interviewer. Good for her.
    Though I don’t know what to make of this: Blame gay men who work in the fashion industry who want these women as dolls.”

    That seems a little unfair, and out of left field as well (especially the dolls part.) Oh well.

  6. zuzu
    zuzu May 30, 2007 at 8:48 pm |

    Very cool.

    Though I see from the other photos from the shoot that the 80s are coming back.


  7. SJ
    SJ May 30, 2007 at 9:11 pm |

    Eighties are BACK, at least in Seattle. COOOOL link. I love this lady.

  8. zuzu
    zuzu May 30, 2007 at 9:50 pm |

    I better not see any peplums.

  9. Mnemosyne
    Mnemosyne May 30, 2007 at 10:04 pm |

    zuzu, this TLC Life Lesson is for you.

  10. Janie
    Janie May 30, 2007 at 10:16 pm |

    I was waiting for someone on feministe to post about Beth Ditto. She’s also outspoken about gay rights issues too. The song standing in the way of control (youtube link: is about gay marriage more or less (and is a really good song)
    quote from wikipedia: The band’s breakthrough song “Standing in the Way of Control” was written by Ditto as a response to her government’s decision to deny gays the right to marriage in the US. “Nobody in the States was that surprised or shocked by what Bush did, but it made everyone I know feel helpless and cheated,” Beth says. “I wrote the chorus to try and encourage people not to give up. It’s a scary time for civil rights, but I really believe the only way to survive is to stick together and keep fighting.”

    she also has an advice column in the guardian which is quite good. but like most awesome people the gossip caught on in the uk first, she came in second, i think, in an nme readers poll for sexiest woman of the year (behind kate moss)
    but anyway, i think she’s awesome and i also want to be her when i grow up.

  11. Natasha Yar-Routh
    Natasha Yar-Routh May 30, 2007 at 11:45 pm |

    Okay I am now a MAJOR Beth Ditto fan. She ran rings around the interviewer and made the points she wanted to make.

    I am grown up but now I want to go bacl and start over so I can be her this time around.

  12. Nick
    Nick May 31, 2007 at 9:16 am |

    Hey, folks, I’m in no way offended by the picture, but NSFW warnings don’t work for those of us who read your blog at work via RSS feeds. I’ve fended off “inappropriate content” complaints before by pointing out that frank discussion of topics like rape and porn are reasonable and pretty much inevitable on a feminist web site, but stuff like this is a little more difficult.

  13. Moira
    Moira May 31, 2007 at 10:03 am |

    The comment about fashion designers isn’t quite out of nowhere, though specifying gay men is letting way too many people in fashion who aren’t gay men off the hook. Thing is, flat cloth drapes better when it doesn’t have to contend with the curves most women have. So to make their clothes look their very best, fashion designers use women who are very tall and very thin. Because it’s all hard and stuff to design clothes that fit around curves. Like math!

    Excellent interviewing skills on the part of Ms. Ditto. Rock all the way the fuck on, woman.

  14. r@d@r
    r@d@r May 31, 2007 at 12:00 pm |

    if you haven’t heard the gossip, i urge all of you to go out and buy their records. they kick major ass. beth ditto is sort of a mashup of poly styrene of x-ray spex and bessie smith. they owe a certain amount to late 70’s punk but are by no means unoriginal or slavish revivalists. if you ever liked pj harvey you’ll like the gossip even better. i’m super picky and hate everything, being an old codger from the old old school, and this is rebel rock the way i like it.

    even if the lead singer wasn’t as extraordinarily beautiful as she obviously is – her voice is enough to make any person with nerves left in their body melt. backed with the raw power of her band, they are very formidable.

  15. ellenbrenna
    ellenbrenna May 31, 2007 at 3:03 pm |

    You have to kind of love the fact that at one point they did mix together “Standing in the Way of Control” and “SexyBack” thereby improving “SexyBack” to no end.

    If one must have pop songs stuck in their heads they should have their bass lines provided by the Gossip all the time.

  16. Janie
    Janie May 31, 2007 at 4:18 pm |

    oooh, ellen, that sounds great, i love mashups, i have one of standing in the way of control mashed up with elastica’s connection which i’m in love with…i’m also in love with beth’s duet with jarvis cocker doing heaven 17’s temptation…so good…

  17. ellenbrenna
    ellenbrenna June 1, 2007 at 12:39 am |

    I only heard it on their Myspace page a couple of months ago but I do not know if it is up there anymore. I did not download it or get a copy.

  18. Scott Lemieux
    Scott Lemieux June 1, 2007 at 11:17 am |

    the machine that feeds it, the thing that makes people feel like that. There are lots of things that are part of that machine, and it’s too easy to lay the blame at the feet of women – men don’t know what it feels like to be a woman and be expected to look a particular way all the time. The Beckhams are part of the machine; Paris Hilton is part of the machine. There’s that thing Paris Hilton said about Lindsay Lohan – ‘You’re poor, ugly and fat’. It’s always women who are victims of that machine and the messages the machine gives out.”

    Indeed. Good for her.

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