maybe that’s the issue here–people have been kind of like, well, we’re hard on -you- because -you should know better-, that shitstain’s hopeless, don’t bother;

but, i dunno, seems to me in cases like this the point of flaming the shitstain isn’t any hope of getting him to understand, it’s expressing what’s on everyone’s mind and getting some affirmation that way.

That’s one of the reasons I keep coming back to Feministe with great respect. When Jill thinks that she’s made a mistake, she openly admits it, apologizes for it, and clears the air. Clearly, as in the example above, piny has the same mentality, and I suspect that Zuzu does, too.

There’s a lack of maturity in JG’s words and actions that’s really surprised me.

Isn’t there a way we can rewind here and fix this, at least between the Feministers?

is there no place, is there no standing, for the effing pain of friends who have lost friends?

No, there isn’t. That’s just exactly what I’ve said, and just what piny’s said, and just what anyone else coming at this from a similar perspective has said: No one is entitled to her grief or feelings at ALL. Nor is anyone allowed to say Brittney could have been clearer in her post. It is not permissible. We just won’t have it. And we have said this because we’re mean and unfeeling people, through and through.

What? You brought the strawman, I figured I might as well dance with him.

Steve Gilliard was not a personal friend of mine but I looked up to him the same way that I look up to the better pro bono lawyers in my city: a giant who had no fear, who fought for justice.

I am in debt to this blog and I hope that “meta” and the pain that people are experiencing don’t become the last word.

Not because I agree with zuzu – I’m used to doing that from time to time – just that I disagree with so many others I usually agree with, which is a fairly strange feeling. I can’t figure out why this is being played as total victim vs vicious hordes of total evil (slight exaggeration, but still), when I think that is far from the case, so I figured I’d just let it be.

Mostly ;).