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	<title>Comments on: Do No Harm &#8211; Except to Women</title>
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	<description>In defense of the sanctimonious women&#039;s studies set.</description>
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		<title>By: arlene</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/06/28/do-no-harm-except-to-women/#comment-114420</link>
		<dc:creator>arlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 18:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There needs to be Truth in Healthcare legislation.  There is generally acceped medical practice and then there is sectarian medical practice.  If Roman Catholic and fundamentalist health care providers want to practice based on their religious dogma, their patients must be informed beforehand.  &quot;Gotchas&quot; by doctors or pharmacists or other providers result in poor outcomes for the patient and higher cost of care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There needs to be Truth in Healthcare legislation.  There is generally acceped medical practice and then there is sectarian medical practice.  If Roman Catholic and fundamentalist health care providers want to practice based on their religious dogma, their patients must be informed beforehand.  &#8220;Gotchas&#8221; by doctors or pharmacists or other providers result in poor outcomes for the patient and higher cost of care.</p>
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		<title>By: Feministe &#187; Recapin&#8217; Your Ass</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/06/28/do-no-harm-except-to-women/#comment-114380</link>
		<dc:creator>Feministe &#187; Recapin&#8217; Your Ass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 14:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  folks are moving left.  	Jill: Barry L. Beyerstein (1947-2007) 	Thursday June 28th 	Jill: Do No Harm &#8212; Except to women. Some doctors are refusing to pro [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  folks are moving left.  	Jill: Barry L. Beyerstein (1947-2007) 	Thursday June 28th 	Jill: Do No Harm &#8212; Except to women. Some doctors are refusing to pro [...]</p>
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		<title>By: zuzu</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/06/28/do-no-harm-except-to-women/#comment-114337</link>
		<dc:creator>zuzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 02:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This type of thing never seems to happen in Canada, or maybe I don’t hear about it. I go to a Muslim doctor, who is observant enough to wear a hijab, ankle-length skirts, and long sleeves, at a clinic affiliated with a Catholic hospital, and no one has ever even blinked at my birth control prescription.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s never the members of a minority religion who are the problem; it&#039;s always the members of the majority religion. Which Canada doesn&#039;t seem immune from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This type of thing never seems to happen in Canada, or maybe I don’t hear about it. I go to a Muslim doctor, who is observant enough to wear a hijab, ankle-length skirts, and long sleeves, at a clinic affiliated with a Catholic hospital, and no one has ever even blinked at my birth control prescription.</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s never the members of a minority religion who are the problem; it&#8217;s always the members of the majority religion. Which Canada doesn&#8217;t seem immune from.</p>
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		<title>By: mythago</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/06/28/do-no-harm-except-to-women/#comment-114335</link>
		<dc:creator>mythago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 01:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;We just don’t allow that kind of religious bigotry in Canada, do we?&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, you do. Don&#039;t assume that because Canada is very far ahead of the US on many social issues that all Canadians everywhere are enlightened, nonsexist folk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>We just don’t allow that kind of religious bigotry in Canada, do we?</i></p>
<p>Yes, you do. Don&#8217;t assume that because Canada is very far ahead of the US on many social issues that all Canadians everywhere are enlightened, nonsexist folk.</p>
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		<title>By: Autumn Harvest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Autumn Harvest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 23:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Minnesota cab drivers now do have to accept all passengers, including those with alcohol or guide dogs, or else they lose their taxi license. Under the old system the cab drivers could go to the back of the taxi line, and the passenger could just take the next taxi in line; which makes the analogous situation one where the doctor doesn&#039;t prescribe EC, but refers you to the doctor down the hall who does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Minnesota cab drivers now do have to accept all passengers, including those with alcohol or guide dogs, or else they lose their taxi license. Under the old system the cab drivers could go to the back of the taxi line, and the passenger could just take the next taxi in line; which makes the analogous situation one where the doctor doesn&#8217;t prescribe EC, but refers you to the doctor down the hall who does.</p>
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		<title>By: JPlum</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/06/28/do-no-harm-except-to-women/#comment-113864</link>
		<dc:creator>JPlum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This type of thing never seems to happen in Canada, or maybe I don&#039;t hear about it.  I go to a Muslim doctor, who is observant enough to wear a hijab, ankle-length skirts, and long sleeves, at a clinic affiliated with a Catholic hospital, and no one has ever even blinked at my birth control prescription. Your first visit they ask about your sexual orientation, but in a completely non-judgemental, in order to give you the most appropriate care kind of way.  We just don&#039;t allow that kind of religious bigotry in Canada, do we?

I&#039;ve no idea if I could get an abortion through the hospital, but I&#039;m sure they would refer me somewhere.  Because not to refer me would be...I don&#039;t know...immoral and illegal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This type of thing never seems to happen in Canada, or maybe I don&#8217;t hear about it.  I go to a Muslim doctor, who is observant enough to wear a hijab, ankle-length skirts, and long sleeves, at a clinic affiliated with a Catholic hospital, and no one has ever even blinked at my birth control prescription. Your first visit they ask about your sexual orientation, but in a completely non-judgemental, in order to give you the most appropriate care kind of way.  We just don&#8217;t allow that kind of religious bigotry in Canada, do we?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve no idea if I could get an abortion through the hospital, but I&#8217;m sure they would refer me somewhere.  Because not to refer me would be&#8230;I don&#8217;t know&#8230;immoral and illegal?</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/06/28/do-no-harm-except-to-women/#comment-113862</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bmc, my wife just told our tween niece where we keep the condoms.  If she can&#039;t level with her mother or buy them herself, then she is no way ready to deal with a pregnancy or STI.  I hope she won&#039;t need them for several years; but hope is not a plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bmc, my wife just told our tween niece where we keep the condoms.  If she can&#8217;t level with her mother or buy them herself, then she is no way ready to deal with a pregnancy or STI.  I hope she won&#8217;t need them for several years; but hope is not a plan.</p>
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		<title>By: The Red Shredder</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/06/28/do-no-harm-except-to-women/#comment-113851</link>
		<dc:creator>The Red Shredder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi - Long time lurker, first time commenter.  I moved into a new city a year ago for a job.  I got a new PCP and was pretty happy with her care.  She was actually pretty liberal with the scripts and gave me a year&#039;s worth of several medications I take regularly.  She even told me she could do my yearly exams, so I wouldn’t have to find a new GYN.  I thought I had hit the jackpot.  

Well...
About a month before Plan B became available over the counter, my husband and I had a condom slip during the middle of my cycle. I called my doctor&#039;s office the next day and told them my issue, even joked a bit about it.  I figured the doctor would call me in a script and I&#039;d be fine.  The office worker who answered the phone listened to my story and told me coldly that the office couldn&#039;t help me.  I asked to speak to my doctor, and was told she would call me.  She called me back over 6 hours later and told me that the office&#039;s policy was not to dispense Plan B under any circumstances.  When I asked her to refer me to another doctor, she was unable to think of any one who would possibly prescribe Plan B to me.  
Luckily, there is a Planned Parenthood clinic in this city and the next morning (day 3) I went to see them.  I had to let the doctor there do an exam before they would give me the script, and I had to pay out of pocket for the exam and the script, because they couldn&#039;t take my insurance.  So $240 dollars later, I had my two, tiny  Plan B pills and still another 2-3 weeks of worrying if I had caught things in time.  I was fine, this time.  But what tiny faith I had in doctors was gone because of this incident.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi &#8211; Long time lurker, first time commenter.  I moved into a new city a year ago for a job.  I got a new PCP and was pretty happy with her care.  She was actually pretty liberal with the scripts and gave me a year&#8217;s worth of several medications I take regularly.  She even told me she could do my yearly exams, so I wouldn’t have to find a new GYN.  I thought I had hit the jackpot.  </p>
<p>Well&#8230;<br />
About a month before Plan B became available over the counter, my husband and I had a condom slip during the middle of my cycle. I called my doctor&#8217;s office the next day and told them my issue, even joked a bit about it.  I figured the doctor would call me in a script and I&#8217;d be fine.  The office worker who answered the phone listened to my story and told me coldly that the office couldn&#8217;t help me.  I asked to speak to my doctor, and was told she would call me.  She called me back over 6 hours later and told me that the office&#8217;s policy was not to dispense Plan B under any circumstances.  When I asked her to refer me to another doctor, she was unable to think of any one who would possibly prescribe Plan B to me.<br />
Luckily, there is a Planned Parenthood clinic in this city and the next morning (day 3) I went to see them.  I had to let the doctor there do an exam before they would give me the script, and I had to pay out of pocket for the exam and the script, because they couldn&#8217;t take my insurance.  So $240 dollars later, I had my two, tiny  Plan B pills and still another 2-3 weeks of worrying if I had caught things in time.  I was fine, this time.  But what tiny faith I had in doctors was gone because of this incident.</p>
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		<title>By: anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off Topic: So what happened to those cab drivers refusing to transport alcohol and guide dogs? Do they have to transport them now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off Topic: So what happened to those cab drivers refusing to transport alcohol and guide dogs? Do they have to transport them now?</p>
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		<title>By: ks</title>
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		<dc:creator>ks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 16:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Seriously.

Y’all, I’m just waiting for one of these fuckers to mess with me. I especially look forward to the moment when, staring them down, I place a call to my lawyers and clearly enunciate “mal-prac-tice.” &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I feel the same way.  I&#039;m just evil enough that when I get really pissed off (and that would definitely do it) that they would surely regret it.  

Personally, I think that when these assholes refuse to prescribe EC for religious, &#039;life of the goddamned embryo&#039; reasons, then they should be forced to pay for the subsequent abortion if that&#039;s what the woman chooses or for the entire cost of giving birth to and raising a child if that&#039;s what she chooses, plus punitive &#039;suffering and anguish&#039; money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Seriously.</p>
<p>Y’all, I’m just waiting for one of these fuckers to mess with me. I especially look forward to the moment when, staring them down, I place a call to my lawyers and clearly enunciate “mal-prac-tice.” </p></blockquote>
<p>I feel the same way.  I&#8217;m just evil enough that when I get really pissed off (and that would definitely do it) that they would surely regret it.  </p>
<p>Personally, I think that when these assholes refuse to prescribe EC for religious, &#8216;life of the goddamned embryo&#8217; reasons, then they should be forced to pay for the subsequent abortion if that&#8217;s what the woman chooses or for the entire cost of giving birth to and raising a child if that&#8217;s what she chooses, plus punitive &#8217;suffering and anguish&#8217; money.</p>
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