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		<title>By: SGS</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/07/05/on-hating-rakhi-sawant/#comment-115945</link>
		<dc:creator>SGS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All that I have been thinking since I read this post was: Why didn&#039;t the inetrviewer ask Diya Mirza if she was a good role model for girls, what with her painted face, deformed eyebrows and all.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All that I have been thinking since I read this post was: Why didn&#8217;t the inetrviewer ask Diya Mirza if she was a good role model for girls, what with her painted face, deformed eyebrows and all&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Apurva</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/07/05/on-hating-rakhi-sawant/#comment-115383</link>
		<dc:creator>Apurva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 19:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@zuzu: You are right about the Sari thingie. I remember when they made a decree in my sister&#039;s college banning &#039;western&#039; clothes and making it compulsory to wear sarees to the classrooms. Apart from my anger at people trying to control what they can wear, I thought it was stupid because a saree exposes more skin than jeans with shirts.
Sarees have been used in hindi movies as an expression of sexuality. A sari clad woman dancing in the rain or under a waterfall is something that has appeared in innumerous movies. In fact, I remember seeing a documentary, I forget which, in which they showed a right wing religious celebration with a statue of &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandakini_%28actress%29&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mandakini&lt;/a&gt; depicting such a scene was used. And these same people will lecture us about morals and kisses...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@zuzu: You are right about the Sari thingie. I remember when they made a decree in my sister&#8217;s college banning &#8216;western&#8217; clothes and making it compulsory to wear sarees to the classrooms. Apart from my anger at people trying to control what they can wear, I thought it was stupid because a saree exposes more skin than jeans with shirts.<br />
Sarees have been used in hindi movies as an expression of sexuality. A sari clad woman dancing in the rain or under a waterfall is something that has appeared in innumerous movies. In fact, I remember seeing a documentary, I forget which, in which they showed a right wing religious celebration with a statue of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandakini_%28actress%29" rel="nofollow">Mandakini</a> depicting such a scene was used. And these same people will lecture us about morals and kisses&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Aishwarya</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/07/05/on-hating-rakhi-sawant/#comment-115345</link>
		<dc:creator>Aishwarya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 06:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>zuzu - To be honest, I&#039;m not sure where the Hindu rightwing ends and ordinary people begin. But no one really makes a big fuss about kissing in the movies and suchlike anymore.

What &lt;em&gt;did&lt;/em&gt; bother me about the Shilpa Shetty - Richard Gere kiss was that it clearly took her completely by surprise though she put a good face on it. 

It always fascinates me to see what different cultures consider unacceptable. When I see the sort of dancing that went on in hindi movies of the early 90s I&#039;m made rather uncomfortable by the pelvic thrusts - far more so than by the newer ones that make our current guardians-of-morality so nervous. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>zuzu &#8211; To be honest, I&#8217;m not sure where the Hindu rightwing ends and ordinary people begin. But no one really makes a big fuss about kissing in the movies and suchlike anymore.</p>
<p>What <em>did</em> bother me about the Shilpa Shetty &#8211; Richard Gere kiss was that it clearly took her completely by surprise though she put a good face on it. </p>
<p>It always fascinates me to see what different cultures consider unacceptable. When I see the sort of dancing that went on in hindi movies of the early 90s I&#8217;m made rather uncomfortable by the pelvic thrusts &#8211; far more so than by the newer ones that make our current guardians-of-morality so nervous.</p>
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		<title>By: zuzu</title>
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		<dc:creator>zuzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 05:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also -- it&#039;s amusing to me that Indian culture can be very conservative, yet the average Bollywood musical (and, indeed, even the average Hindu woman) exposes more midriff -- oh, that sinful midriff -- while wearing a sari than does the average actress in  the average Hollywood film.  And the wingnuts here hyperventilate over midriffs sucking out the morals of our chilluns.

In other cultures, it&#039;s the neck.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also &#8212; it&#8217;s amusing to me that Indian culture can be very conservative, yet the average Bollywood musical (and, indeed, even the average Hindu woman) exposes more midriff &#8212; oh, that sinful midriff &#8212; while wearing a sari than does the average actress in  the average Hollywood film.  And the wingnuts here hyperventilate over midriffs sucking out the morals of our chilluns.</p>
<p>In other cultures, it&#8217;s the neck.</p>
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		<title>By: zuzu</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/07/05/on-hating-rakhi-sawant/#comment-115339</link>
		<dc:creator>zuzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 05:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aishwarya -- how much does the Hindu rightwing have to do with the threatened suit against Richard Gere and Shilpa Shetty?

From what I&#039;ve been hearing, it&#039;s the kind of thing that, yes, the kiss was taboo under a certain strict interpretation of conservative morality, but most people don&#039;t actually follow that morality.

Here, we don&#039;t really have a judicial forum to dispute things like that, though the whole &quot;OMG! Janet Jackson has nipples!&quot; thing was pursued through the FCC.  Which was headed by Colin Powell&#039;s son.

Okay, so the US is no less depressingly feudal than any other place on earth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aishwarya &#8212; how much does the Hindu rightwing have to do with the threatened suit against Richard Gere and Shilpa Shetty?</p>
<p>From what I&#8217;ve been hearing, it&#8217;s the kind of thing that, yes, the kiss was taboo under a certain strict interpretation of conservative morality, but most people don&#8217;t actually follow that morality.</p>
<p>Here, we don&#8217;t really have a judicial forum to dispute things like that, though the whole &#8220;OMG! Janet Jackson has nipples!&#8221; thing was pursued through the FCC.  Which was headed by Colin Powell&#8217;s son.</p>
<p>Okay, so the US is no less depressingly feudal than any other place on earth.</p>
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		<title>By: Aishwarya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aishwarya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 05:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bellatrys - I han&#039;t thought of the connection, but yes, there&#039;s definitely a similarity with the chav jokes.

sandinista - okay,  don&#039;t think I phrased that very well. I have failed to prosecute sexual assault in the past, and I&#039;m certainly not in a position to judge another woman for not doing so. What worries me about Aishwarya Rai&#039;s case is that when someone who is such a public figure in a country where there&#039;s &lt;em&gt;already&lt;/em&gt; a low awareness of women&#039;s rights fails to sue, it enforces the message that women should just shut up and take it and that there&#039;s nothing they can do for the public. Our public needs to be reminded that legal action &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; an option, and I see the Aishwarya Rai - Salman Khan thing as a missed opportunity more than anything else. 
(Any more hostility you may have sensed is just my resentment at her stealing my name)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bellatrys &#8211; I han&#8217;t thought of the connection, but yes, there&#8217;s definitely a similarity with the chav jokes.</p>
<p>sandinista &#8211; okay,  don&#8217;t think I phrased that very well. I have failed to prosecute sexual assault in the past, and I&#8217;m certainly not in a position to judge another woman for not doing so. What worries me about Aishwarya Rai&#8217;s case is that when someone who is such a public figure in a country where there&#8217;s <em>already</em> a low awareness of women&#8217;s rights fails to sue, it enforces the message that women should just shut up and take it and that there&#8217;s nothing they can do for the public. Our public needs to be reminded that legal action <em>is</em> an option, and I see the Aishwarya Rai &#8211; Salman Khan thing as a missed opportunity more than anything else.<br />
(Any more hostility you may have sensed is just my resentment at her stealing my name)</p>
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		<title>By: 7 Ways to Inspire Team Members &#8212; Movie Trailers</title>
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		<dc:creator>7 Ways to Inspire Team Members &#8212; Movie Trailers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 05:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ular way. Actress Dia Mirza, all pretty and eyebrowplucked and legwaxed            source: On Hating Rakhi Sawant, Feministe   I decided to blog this result under  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ular way. Actress Dia Mirza, all pretty and eyebrowplucked and legwaxed            source: On Hating Rakhi Sawant, Feministe   I decided to blog this result under  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sandinista</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandinista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 18:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really liked this post and I think you&#039;re right on.

Only one thing bothers me:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Compare this to the high profile Aishwarya Rai – Salman Khan relationship. Everyone seems to know that he assaulted her, but she’s never done anything about it; it’s as if it never occurred to her that he could be punished.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Certainly, what Sawant did is very valuable and you&#039;re correct in calling BS on the superficial reasons for which she is dismissed. However, this attitude toward Rai, like she&#039;s too stupid to understand what she obviously should have done, like it &lt;i&gt;never occurred to her that he could be punished&lt;/i&gt; is decidedly non-feminist. Women don&#039;t report/prosecute domestic/sexual assault for many reasons. Whether to do so is the choice of every individual woman. It is no one&#039;s place to judge them, certainly not in a feminist space, I would think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really liked this post and I think you&#8217;re right on.</p>
<p>Only one thing bothers me:</p>
<blockquote><p>Compare this to the high profile Aishwarya Rai – Salman Khan relationship. Everyone seems to know that he assaulted her, but she’s never done anything about it; it’s as if it never occurred to her that he could be punished.</p></blockquote>
<p>Certainly, what Sawant did is very valuable and you&#8217;re correct in calling BS on the superficial reasons for which she is dismissed. However, this attitude toward Rai, like she&#8217;s too stupid to understand what she obviously should have done, like it <i>never occurred to her that he could be punished</i> is decidedly non-feminist. Women don&#8217;t report/prosecute domestic/sexual assault for many reasons. Whether to do so is the choice of every individual woman. It is no one&#8217;s place to judge them, certainly not in a feminist space, I would think.</p>
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		<title>By: QLH</title>
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		<dc:creator>QLH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 13:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this post!</p>
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		<title>By: elyzabethe</title>
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		<dc:creator>elyzabethe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 13:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this was a really interesting post. nice (or, not nice, really, but you know, comforting, or maybe not? maybe just sad?) to know the same dynamics play out everywhere ... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this was a really interesting post. nice (or, not nice, really, but you know, comforting, or maybe not? maybe just sad?) to know the same dynamics play out everywhere &#8230;</p>
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