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  1. Dsperin
    Dsperin August 19, 2007 at 5:32 am |

    Personally, I wouldn’t mind having someone else make all the decisions for once. It’d be quite the vacation! :P

    Seriously though, I can’t believe that “they might make a mistake, so lets take away the choice” is even being looked at as a valid excuse to criminalize abortion.

  2. SarahMC
    SarahMC August 19, 2007 at 12:15 pm |

    I recently read a really great example of double-standards for men and women.
    Men and women are both infantalized by the patriarchy. But it’s done for different reasons.

    When women are infantalized, it’s done in an effort to take away their choices and reduce their options in life. It’s done to restrict their rights and deny their agency.
    Women are too weak to do X, they are too “emotional” to do Y, etc. Women need protection; leave decisions up to the men. Women don’t know what’s best for them; they don’t know what they want.

    When men are infantalized, it’s done in an effort to relieve them of personal responsibility.
    Boys will be boys, men can’t control themselves when they’re aroused, you can’t expect men to pick up after themselves, cook for themselves, notice your feelings, etc.

  3. Kyra
    Kyra August 19, 2007 at 12:50 pm |

    One wonders how many women regret having children.

    One wonders how many of them would never dare speak of it due to the extent to which such a regret is demonized. One wonders how many of them suffer significantly, to the point where they should’ve been prevented from making that decision, “for their own good.”

    One wonders if this means the state has an interest in making abortions compulsory. Surely it’s at least as justified as making abortion forbidden.

    Except that would be selfish. Whereas illegalizing abortion would force them to be selfless, instead, which is for arbitrary reasons known only to the religious right, something that women should be required to be, instead of having and using inconvenient rights to act like their own happiness and fulfillment is important or something.

    (And, five bucks and a cookie says that just like with restrictions on abortion, restrictions on childbirth would be interpreted and enforced so that wealthy white women were free to do whatever they wanted, and poor women and women of color were the ones getting screwed.)

  4. bmc90
    bmc90 August 22, 2007 at 2:28 pm |

    I don’t see why you could not extend the same logic to force men to get forced vasectomies since I’m sure men are often greatly dismayed to learn they have gotten someone pregnant. Yeah that will happen. I also wonder if my relatives who had unplanned pregnancies regret (these are real examples) having a daughter now married to a drug dealer and also a teen mother, a son kicked out of the military for having sex with a minor, a son and daughter (a teen mother to boot) living together in the trailer mommy lived in (that grandma gave her) after mommy blew her brains out, and a daughter who has been in and out of jail for petty larceny. Those are my cousins’ and aunt’s kids. The one in college is the one whose parents got married after college and meant to get pregnant. Suprise suprise. That’s the legacy of half baked parenthood by people who were not prepared for it. It started with a few prom babies and got worse in the next generation.

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