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	<title>Comments on: White people only go to Harlem for drugs or prostitutes</title>
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		<title>By: Marksman2000</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marksman2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 23:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;When I lived in NYC, I went to Harlem for Dungeons and Dragons. &lt;/strong&gt;

Gaming store or a friend with ployhedron dice?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>When I lived in NYC, I went to Harlem for Dungeons and Dragons. </strong></p>
<p>Gaming store or a friend with ployhedron dice?</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 22:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is so laughably out of touch with reality that it&#039;s hard not to gape, just like you would if you heard someone say they were scared of going to Chicago, because of all the mobsters with tommy guns having shootouts.

I&#039;ve lived in Harlem for 8 years now and I&#039;ve watched it change -- because of Columbia, because of Bill Clinton, because of huge chain stores moving into the area, because of rich folks wanting to buy brownstones cheap, simply because people from other more privileged demographics (yes you, white people, yes me too despite being a POC) have moved in and are changing the face the community, making it not what it once was. But even in the early 90s, it would have been a ludicrously racist statement to say that the only reason white people would go to Harlem would be for drugs or sex. There are a dozen other places you could go for that, all of them probably with less police presence than Harlem! It&#039;s just the 70s-fueled stereotype of a racist doofus.

Sylvia&#039;s, incidentally, is an incredibly popular tourist attraction. There are visitors from all over the world there on a daily basis. It&#039;s hard to even believe that there were no white people in there when O&#039;Reilly and Sharpton had lunch. There are lines around the block for that place, and the lines always have white people in them.

Ironically, even BILL O&#039;REILLY was capable of making far less stupid or bigoted comments than this guy, who was apparently defending &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://mediamatters.org/items/200709210007?f=h_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the original radio clip.&lt;/a&gt; I am no fan of O&#039;Reilly and he came off sounding like as much of a boor as ever, but if you read the transcript, he was trying to make some kind of point about how he thinks average black folks (e.g. Sylvia&#039;s patrons) are just like anyone else and that stereotypes like DePetro&#039;s are totally wrong. And this is O&#039;REILLY making that point. Then John DePetro comes along defending him and basically spouts the exact opposite -- it is to laugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so laughably out of touch with reality that it&#8217;s hard not to gape, just like you would if you heard someone say they were scared of going to Chicago, because of all the mobsters with tommy guns having shootouts.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve lived in Harlem for 8 years now and I&#8217;ve watched it change &#8212; because of Columbia, because of Bill Clinton, because of huge chain stores moving into the area, because of rich folks wanting to buy brownstones cheap, simply because people from other more privileged demographics (yes you, white people, yes me too despite being a POC) have moved in and are changing the face the community, making it not what it once was. But even in the early 90s, it would have been a ludicrously racist statement to say that the only reason white people would go to Harlem would be for drugs or sex. There are a dozen other places you could go for that, all of them probably with less police presence than Harlem! It&#8217;s just the 70s-fueled stereotype of a racist doofus.</p>
<p>Sylvia&#8217;s, incidentally, is an incredibly popular tourist attraction. There are visitors from all over the world there on a daily basis. It&#8217;s hard to even believe that there were no white people in there when O&#8217;Reilly and Sharpton had lunch. There are lines around the block for that place, and the lines always have white people in them.</p>
<p>Ironically, even BILL O&#8217;REILLY was capable of making far less stupid or bigoted comments than this guy, who was apparently defending <a HREF="http://mediamatters.org/items/200709210007?f=h_top" rel="nofollow">the original radio clip.</a> I am no fan of O&#8217;Reilly and he came off sounding like as much of a boor as ever, but if you read the transcript, he was trying to make some kind of point about how he thinks average black folks (e.g. Sylvia&#8217;s patrons) are just like anyone else and that stereotypes like DePetro&#8217;s are totally wrong. And this is O&#8217;REILLY making that point. Then John DePetro comes along defending him and basically spouts the exact opposite &#8212; it is to laugh.</p>
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		<title>By: Mollie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mollie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 22:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Psh. Please. Mad white people live in Harlem. 

This reminds me though: Anyone know of Newburgh? It&#039;s about an hour-ish upstate, on the Hudson. Very bad rep, lots of drugs and gangs and stuff. I (white teenage girl who looks a bit like a boy) was walking to work, from my house, in the city of Newburgh (&quot;the ghetto&quot;) and some guy walking by was like, &quot;What you want some weed? You want some drugs?&quot;

Yes, because I only go to the city for drugs. Duh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Psh. Please. Mad white people live in Harlem. </p>
<p>This reminds me though: Anyone know of Newburgh? It&#8217;s about an hour-ish upstate, on the Hudson. Very bad rep, lots of drugs and gangs and stuff. I (white teenage girl who looks a bit like a boy) was walking to work, from my house, in the city of Newburgh (&#8220;the ghetto&#8221;) and some guy walking by was like, &#8220;What you want some weed? You want some drugs?&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, because I only go to the city for drugs. Duh.</p>
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		<title>By: Feminist Focus - Today Top Blog Posts on Feminism - Powered by SocialRank</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 10:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Stop Columbia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stop Columbia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 18:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re. #12:  Yes, and Columbia University has been one of the major engines driving the gentrification in Harlem!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re. #12:  Yes, and Columbia University has been one of the major engines driving the gentrification in Harlem!</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 04:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am glad to hear that guys like Bill O&#039;Reilly and John DiPietro only go to Harlem for drugs and prostitutes.  Since I am not in the market for either, I won&#039;t have to bump into them in line at Sylvia&#039;s or any other restaurant.  Appreciate it actually.  I know O&#039;Reilly went to Sylvia&#039;s once recently but probably won&#039;t be going back soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad to hear that guys like Bill O&#8217;Reilly and John DiPietro only go to Harlem for drugs and prostitutes.  Since I am not in the market for either, I won&#8217;t have to bump into them in line at Sylvia&#8217;s or any other restaurant.  Appreciate it actually.  I know O&#8217;Reilly went to Sylvia&#8217;s once recently but probably won&#8217;t be going back soon.</p>
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		<title>By: ellen</title>
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		<dc:creator>ellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 04:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh...  When we were in NYC on vacation, we took a whole bunch of self-guided walking tours featured in the Lonely Planet guide.  One of them was in Harlem.  We had to laugh - as my so-white-he&#039;s-afraid-of-the-sun husband and I were bopping around, dropping into galleries, looking at historical places, and enjoying the food - we kept seeing those red double-decker tour buses filled with gawking white people go by.  We still laugh at the idea of the white-people buses, and what they were missing by just driving by.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh&#8230;  When we were in NYC on vacation, we took a whole bunch of self-guided walking tours featured in the Lonely Planet guide.  One of them was in Harlem.  We had to laugh &#8211; as my so-white-he&#8217;s-afraid-of-the-sun husband and I were bopping around, dropping into galleries, looking at historical places, and enjoying the food &#8211; we kept seeing those red double-decker tour buses filled with gawking white people go by.  We still laugh at the idea of the white-people buses, and what they were missing by just driving by.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 22:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;When I lived in NYC, I went to Harlem for Dungeons and Dragons. Which category does that fall under?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Drugs, obviously.  Something like crack, only cheaper and more addicting.  ;)  Not to mention the caffeine/Cheetos/Doritos fix in addition to the Dn&#039;D.  Seriously whacked!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>When I lived in NYC, I went to Harlem for Dungeons and Dragons. Which category does that fall under?</p></blockquote>
<p>Drugs, obviously.  Something like crack, only cheaper and more addicting.  ;)  Not to mention the caffeine/Cheetos/Doritos fix in addition to the Dn&#8217;D.  Seriously whacked!</p>
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		<title>By: louise</title>
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		<dc:creator>louise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me too, Betsy- and my friend was also white! Of course, there&#039;s always the chance we have a mutual friend...
/snark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me too, Betsy- and my friend was also white! Of course, there&#8217;s always the chance we have a mutual friend&#8230;<br />
/snark</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Jasper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Jasper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 18:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dianne  is spot on, and said what I was going to say far better.  It&#039;s not just that these putzes are racist, it&#039;s that they&#039;re so clearly disconnected from reality.  Harlem is, and has been gentrified since the early &#039;90s.  There&#039;s plenty of white people, including *rich* white people living there.  

For god&#039;s sake,  Columbia University is in Harlem.

If you want a more minority neighborhood, try south Riverside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dianne  is spot on, and said what I was going to say far better.  It&#8217;s not just that these putzes are racist, it&#8217;s that they&#8217;re so clearly disconnected from reality.  Harlem is, and has been gentrified since the early &#8217;90s.  There&#8217;s plenty of white people, including *rich* white people living there.  </p>
<p>For god&#8217;s sake,  Columbia University is in Harlem.</p>
<p>If you want a more minority neighborhood, try south Riverside.</p>
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