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	<title>Comments on: If only it were as simple as killing poppies</title>
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	<description>In defense of the sanctimonious women&#039;s studies set.</description>
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		<title>By: Iraq &#187; Blog Archives &#187; Obama: Private security raises risk in Iraq (USA Today)</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/10/08/if-only-it-were-as-simple-as-killing-poppies/#comment-130373</link>
		<dc:creator>Iraq &#187; Blog Archives &#187; Obama: Private security raises risk in Iraq (USA Today)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] If only it were as simple as killing poppies Afghanistan’s drug problem is out of control — since we invaded and then got distracted in Iraq and subsequently failed our mission in practically every way, there has been a significant rise in poppy cultivation and opium production. Afghanistan produces almost all of the world’s opiates, &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] If only it were as simple as killing poppies Afghanistan’s drug problem is out of control — since we invaded and then got distracted in Iraq and subsequently failed our mission in practically every way, there has been a significant rise in poppy cultivation and opium production. Afghanistan produces almost all of the world’s opiates, &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel of Cyberia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel of Cyberia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 20:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Taliban doesn&#039;t actually care about their religion, they want to oppress others and make money, like any other fascist gang.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Taliban doesn&#8217;t actually care about their religion, they want to oppress others and make money, like any other fascist gang.</p>
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		<title>By: antiprincess</title>
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		<dc:creator>antiprincess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>god-only-knows what&#039;s in the herbicide!

haram or not, if I was an afghan farmer I&#039;d want strangers with gallons of weed killer to keep the hell off my property. I can respect that, even if that farmer grows heroin.

and after all the poppies are killed, can you even use that land to grow a less morally dirty crop? maybe it will take a year or so for the ground to recover?

what happens to the farmers in the meantime?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>god-only-knows what&#8217;s in the herbicide!</p>
<p>haram or not, if I was an afghan farmer I&#8217;d want strangers with gallons of weed killer to keep the hell off my property. I can respect that, even if that farmer grows heroin.</p>
<p>and after all the poppies are killed, can you even use that land to grow a less morally dirty crop? maybe it will take a year or so for the ground to recover?</p>
<p>what happens to the farmers in the meantime?</p>
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		<title>By: Bitter Scribe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bitter Scribe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a good New Yorker article a while back in which the reporter described, very harrowingly, his experience being out with a &quot;private security&quot; (read: mercenary) patrol trying to eradicate poppy fields.

The local residents started attacking and the patrol, outnumbered and having nothing but small arms, had to retreat. Apparently this pattern is repeated quite often in Afghanistan.

When you threaten people&#039;s livelihoods, they will repsond violently. One opium farmer told the reporter apologetically that he was aware that heroin was harming young people in the U.S. and elsewhere, but he and his family had to live, and he felt he had no alternative.

Of course, we would be in a much better position to respond, with both sticks and carrots, if vast amounts of military manpower and money weren&#039;t being tied down in Iraq.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a good New Yorker article a while back in which the reporter described, very harrowingly, his experience being out with a &#8220;private security&#8221; (read: mercenary) patrol trying to eradicate poppy fields.</p>
<p>The local residents started attacking and the patrol, outnumbered and having nothing but small arms, had to retreat. Apparently this pattern is repeated quite often in Afghanistan.</p>
<p>When you threaten people&#8217;s livelihoods, they will repsond violently. One opium farmer told the reporter apologetically that he was aware that heroin was harming young people in the U.S. and elsewhere, but he and his family had to live, and he felt he had no alternative.</p>
<p>Of course, we would be in a much better position to respond, with both sticks and carrots, if vast amounts of military manpower and money weren&#8217;t being tied down in Iraq.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 16:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Color me confused. I thought that the Taliban stamped out opium production becouse their religion considers it &quot;harah&quot;.
Now they are coming back and getting in on the act?  Do we have any idea if this is true?
Could the local militias which hold sway under Karzai government be the opium powers and dumping the blame on the Taliban?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Color me confused. I thought that the Taliban stamped out opium production becouse their religion considers it &#8220;harah&#8221;.<br />
Now they are coming back and getting in on the act?  Do we have any idea if this is true?<br />
Could the local militias which hold sway under Karzai government be the opium powers and dumping the blame on the Taliban?</p>
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		<title>By: exholt</title>
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		<dc:creator>exholt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 15:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jill,

Although your points are well taken I am a bit conflicted on this as I&#039;ve seen the toll of drug use both in my old neighborhood as well as from reading and hearing about the First Opium War (1839-1842) from older family members and friends.  Heck, some familial ancestors were involved in attempting to stamp out the epidemic of opium use before the British army arrived.  

However, the fact Americans and Western Europeans are pushing the drug bust so aggressively is historically ironic.  The British government sent troops to fight in the First Opium War to force the Qing Imperial government to allow British merchants to push more opium on Chinese society as that was the only way they could balance out their trade deficit as the Chinese government and merchants had little use for other British/European goods.  Moreover, the American merchant ships were involved in the opium trade during this era so the hypocrisy is quite telling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jill,</p>
<p>Although your points are well taken I am a bit conflicted on this as I&#8217;ve seen the toll of drug use both in my old neighborhood as well as from reading and hearing about the First Opium War (1839-1842) from older family members and friends.  Heck, some familial ancestors were involved in attempting to stamp out the epidemic of opium use before the British army arrived.  </p>
<p>However, the fact Americans and Western Europeans are pushing the drug bust so aggressively is historically ironic.  The British government sent troops to fight in the First Opium War to force the Qing Imperial government to allow British merchants to push more opium on Chinese society as that was the only way they could balance out their trade deficit as the Chinese government and merchants had little use for other British/European goods.  Moreover, the American merchant ships were involved in the opium trade during this era so the hypocrisy is quite telling.</p>
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		<title>By: Cara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting on this.  Yet another example of how our War on Drugs punishes the poor, protects the wealthy and helps absolutely no one-- except for maybe the politicians that get to claim some kind of bizarre moral high ground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting on this.  Yet another example of how our War on Drugs punishes the poor, protects the wealthy and helps absolutely no one&#8211; except for maybe the politicians that get to claim some kind of bizarre moral high ground.</p>
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