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  1. spastic_jedi
    spastic_jedi October 16, 2007 at 7:43 am |

    And they laughed. What’s so funny about that? It boggles the mind…

  2. trailer park
    trailer park October 16, 2007 at 8:39 am |

    Absolutely despicable.

  3. zuzu
    zuzu October 16, 2007 at 8:43 am | *

    It was probably the nervous laughter that seizes one when one realizes that the shit is hitting the fan.

    Anyway, I thought he was the decider. So much for that.

  4. B.D.
    B.D. October 16, 2007 at 8:47 am |

    One of the hallmarks of this regime has been the ability of it’s members to avoid taking responsibility for virtually anything. For instance, when Gonzales was testifying it was clear that his justice department was run by committee. Everyone made decisions and no one made the decisions. That’s how he could say some of the most incredulous things and not be lying – technically.

    Bush is playing the same game in this video. He’s pointing the finger at Rumsfeld who would no doubt point the finger at unnamed people in the Pentagon. Whether or not you think Bush knew about the policy (I think he knows more than he’s letting on and he’s lying), it’s really his unwillingness to accept responsibility that’s the issue.

  5. car
    car October 16, 2007 at 9:28 am |

    Fucking hell. Yeah. The response shouldn’t have been laughter, it should have been a stone-faced “Are you SERIOUS? Aren’t you the President? Doesn’t the buck stop with you?
    Asshole. I’m sorry, the man leaves me incapable of any thoughts other than expletives. I’m going to go look at a picture of Gore and daydream for awhile now.

  6. Marianne
    Marianne October 16, 2007 at 10:05 am |

    argh, folks were laughing at it! that’s *not* funny! like he’s some brilliant comedian, even the girl asking the question was laughing.

  7. Fizgig
    Fizgig October 16, 2007 at 10:18 am |

    I have to believe, for my own sanity, that they were laughing at him not with him.

  8. trailrider
    trailrider October 16, 2007 at 10:56 am |

    Was he intoxicated?

  9. rootlesscosmo
    rootlesscosmo October 16, 2007 at 10:56 am |

    He really is that stupid. Not only can’t he lie convincingly, he can’t really lie at all, except when reading from a lying script prepared for him by people who, unlike Bush, are brighter than a banana slug. Minus a script, he just says whatever drifts across his foggy mind; whatever the reasons the others on that clip were laughing, he was laughing because he’s too brainless to grasp what’s going on or to give a rat’s ass about what it might mean.

  10. Laurie
    Laurie October 16, 2007 at 11:19 am |

    And his handlers haven’t yet beaten into his brain that the appropriate answer to that sort of question is something along the lines of: “I’m sorry — I don’t have that information off the top of my head right now. It’s a good question, and I’d love to answer it, but I would need to check my notes. Be assured, we are looking into the situation, and expect to have a resolution shortly.”

    Good grief — I don’t expect the President to have every specific bit of policy off the top of his head, but I also don’t expect him to come across as an unconnected idiot when faced with a question of that level of seriousness.

    Can we impeach him on incompetence?

  11. Toonces
    Toonces October 16, 2007 at 12:53 pm |

    It’s like watching a monkey without opposeable thumbs.

  12. Christina
    Christina October 16, 2007 at 1:47 pm |

    This asshat has never stopped being the “popular” boy in the frat house–the one everyone defers to because they’re frightened of his connections. Gah. Makes me sick to think 1/2 of America voted for this guy.

  13. kactus
    kactus October 16, 2007 at 2:03 pm |

    Oh god, I’m not mentally prepared to watch that clip. Can somebody give me a quick synopsis?

  14. Kristin
    Kristin October 16, 2007 at 2:15 pm |

    kactus – the quick rundown is that someone asks Bush a question about what law controls the military contractors in Iraq, since they’re not under the US code of millitary justice. She states that she asked Rumsfeld the same question, and his response was that Iraq had its own domestic law which would control Blackwater, et al. She then asks Bush the same question, given that Iraq is clearly not in any position to be enforcing its own laws right now. Bush acts like a complete fucking moron, again, some more, and jokes about how he doesn’t know the answer and he’s going to call Rumsfeld right now and ask him. He does not answer the substance of the quesiton at all.

    It is only sheer force of will that is keeping me from typing lots and lots and lots of swear words to describe this asshole right now.

  15. kactus
    kactus October 16, 2007 at 2:46 pm |

    Thanks Kristin. Now I know why I avoided watching it–don’t want to ruin my day before it even gets started.

  16. DaisyDeadhead
    DaisyDeadhead October 16, 2007 at 3:22 pm |

    I’m nostalgic for the days when we thought Reagan was the dumbest president ever.

    We had no idea…

  17. kactus
    kactus October 16, 2007 at 3:38 pm |

    I’m nostalgic for the days when we thought Reagan was the dumbest president ever.

    Right, Daisy. You know things are bad when even Reagan is starting to look good.

  18. dee
    dee October 16, 2007 at 3:48 pm |

    what the fuck is wrong with the american people that they tolerate such a dumb prick?

  19. meggygurl
    meggygurl October 16, 2007 at 4:47 pm |

    Once again… I state… Clinton got impeached cause he got head.

    And yet, this dumb ass, who is actually an idiot, is still trucking along.

    Tell me again, WHY HAVE WE NOT GOTTEN RID OF HIM?

  20. Laurie
    Laurie October 16, 2007 at 6:30 pm |

    I have a button which reads: “Would someone please give Bush a blowjob so we can impeach him?”

    Hmmmmm… >__>

    I’m willing to take one for the team. Who can get me to D.C.? I have a brother-in-law I might be able to crash with while I’m bringing down the free world….

    Seriously, Jon Stewart’s impressions keep looking more and more accurate. (Heh-heh-heh!)

  21. brandann
    brandann October 16, 2007 at 6:48 pm |

    please excuse me for being six hours behind if someone has already said this…
    why the fuck is this funny?

    this is a VERY serious issue, as anyone in the military would know. is it too much to ask that our fucking commander in chief know what the fuck is going on on his watch?

  22. JaneDoe
    JaneDoe October 16, 2007 at 6:56 pm |

    I think it’s funny in the sort of, “oh my God I can’t believe how insane this is” sort of way. Like the absurdity of the situation is just so extreme you can’t help but laugh. At least for me, anyway.

  23. brandann
    brandann October 16, 2007 at 7:55 pm |

    laurie~
    where did you get that button?
    so want one!

  24. Mnemosyne
    Mnemosyne October 16, 2007 at 7:56 pm |

    Oh, I completely understand why people laughed, but I’m definitely an inappropriate laugher. It shouldn’t have been funny when my boyfriend tripped and cut his head on the edge of my air conditioner, and yet I couldn’t stop laughing while I tried to stop the bleeding.

  25. kate
    kate October 16, 2007 at 9:10 pm |

    People are laughing while in their heads thinking, “WTF? Did he just say that?” You have to give people a break too, humans will often follow the crowd, despite what they’d do one on one.

    The questioner did put him on the mark though by saying something to the effect, “That’s funny, but uh…” and she asks again. So she wasn’t letting him off the hook right away, his attempt to diffuse her didn’t work right off.

    I always have thought that he was put up to run (and supported thanks to Diebold et al) as a puppet who would not get too uppity to pull the reins on the far right loopers. Its worked like a charm and his ‘ah shucks’ dumb guy routine has worked so well and proported the idea that its all about him being dumb and not about him being a puppet playing dumb, that they’ve just let him run with it.

    “Who cares? We’re out next year, let it go.” seems to be the mantra of the day. I assure you, while he laughs and everyone laughs along, unseen players in the administration and the Pentagon are getting their way unfettered and unwatched.

    I was looking at the old Reagan administration and the shit they pulled then, Reagan has got nothing on this band of fascists. The extent to which they’ve changed so much of the legal and constitutional landscape is frightening.

  26. exholt
    exholt October 16, 2007 at 9:38 pm |

    Just playing to his contrived “regular guy” bit…albeit the dumb clueless variant to avoid having to answer and thus, give attention to a good question that deserves a decent response.

    Then again, considering his earlier public performance including an old report where he supposedly mandated all briefings were to be a maximum of one page and that his strength as leader was being able to delegate…..we really shouldn’t be surprised.

  27. ellenbrenna
    ellenbrenna October 16, 2007 at 10:15 pm |

    I thought he was the decider not the delegator.

    So confusing, the times we live in.

  28. Jamie
    Jamie October 16, 2007 at 10:32 pm |

    Oh dear lord, I’m Canadian so he’s not even my leader, and I STILL feel embarrassed…

    Just hold out, folks, only… what? A year left? A little over a year left?

  29. Bruce
    Bruce October 16, 2007 at 10:50 pm |

    It’s not a screw-up, this policy; he got caught on a topic that Dick probably discussed with him. The advantage of these contractors for Bush and company is that they are essentially above all laws. I suppose there may be general federal laws that might bar some of their worst conduct, or some imperfectly applied laws like RICO that might apply, though that’s a pile of federal jurisdiction jurisprudence above my skills.

    Advocates of due process, the rule of law and civil society view lawlessness – literally here – as a weakness and problem. For Bush, this lawlessness is both an ideological and practical advantage, asset, something to replicate.

  30. Bree
    Bree October 17, 2007 at 1:33 am |

    What’s extra sad is that there’s NO WAY his handlers didn’t vet the questions – meaning he should have had the question in advance and STILL couldn’t answer.

  31. Eileen
    Eileen October 17, 2007 at 1:53 am |

    He doesn’t even bother to say that he thinks they should be brought under the rule of law. It doesn’t even occur to him that it’s good for people to obey laws.

    I think there are two things happening in this clip:

    1. He is a dipshit who genuinely has no answer to the question
    2. The question was asked by a female student and he doesn’t feel he has to try. He can just laugh and thank her and shrug and make eye contact with the guys in the audience who get him. “Hey, did you hear the question that chick asked? Heh. No, I didn’t either, but I got a good look down her blouse! Heh heh.”

  32. ChrisR
    ChrisR October 17, 2007 at 7:42 am |

    He doesn’t have an answer. He blows off the questioner. And he blows off the question and the essential topic–the well-being and safety of Iraqi civilians. He’s done it before, of course.

    We in the U.S. have to try harder to achieve peace and justice.

  33. Laurie
    Laurie October 17, 2007 at 11:36 am |

    Brandann:
    I got the button at a sci-fi con from a vendor called Sara Cura. She does have a website, just http://www.thename.com. I don’t know that she has any more, but you could ask. :)

    All joking aside, I am ashamed that this man runs my country. He’s not even good at being weasely. And Eileen, I think you hit the nail on the head. And ALL of that really, really bothers me.

    I have never voted in a primary election before in my LIFE, and I’m totally looking forward to the next one.

  34. Laurie
    Laurie October 17, 2007 at 11:39 am |

    OK, I was trying to avoid putting Sara Cura’s website on my previous post just so she doesn’t end up with tons of spam, but the format I used was apparently too good. *sigh* Technically challenged, here in Minnesota….

    So, her company name dot com. *sigh* I’ll get the hang of the Internets one day….

  35. Kevin
    Kevin October 17, 2007 at 7:16 pm |

    BANG! BANG! Jus’ sayin’

  36. Maura
    Maura October 23, 2007 at 11:56 pm |

    It sounds almost like a laugh track. It’s that jarring. I just can’t believe that there would be laughter beyond a few uncomfortable chuckles. Ugh.

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