Comments on: If Bill O’Reilly didn’t exist, we’d have to make him up. http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/10/24/if-bill-oreilly-didnt-exist-wed-have-to-make-him-up/ In defense of the sanctimonious women's studies set. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:11:18 +0000 hourly 1 By: Bianca Reagan http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/10/24/if-bill-oreilly-didnt-exist-wed-have-to-make-him-up/#comment-133892 Bianca Reagan Thu, 25 Oct 2007 23:17:12 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/10/24/if-bill-oreilly-didnt-exist-wed-have-to-make-him-up/#comment-133892 <i>Umm, Bill — these are *fictional characters.* They don’t *have* “spare time.”</i> Ha ha! I wrote about this news story in my post <a href="http://stevethepenguin.blogspot.com/2007/10/dont-ask-dont-tell.html" rel="nofollow">Don't ask, don't tell...</a>. It has garnered some lovely comments. :) Umm, Bill — these are *fictional characters.*

They don’t *have* “spare time.”

Ha ha!

I wrote about this news story in my post Don’t ask, don’t tell…. It has garnered some lovely comments. :)

]]> By: Eruvande http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/10/24/if-bill-oreilly-didnt-exist-wed-have-to-make-him-up/#comment-133731 Eruvande Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:32:33 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/10/24/if-bill-oreilly-didnt-exist-wed-have-to-make-him-up/#comment-133731 I <em>cannot</em> listen to Bill O'Dumbass, I'm sorry. I'm glad there was a partial transcript...I only get furious when I read him...when I watch him I am liable to start screaming. I also don't read the Potter books, but I'm pretty sure I won't catch TEH GHEY from any books. "Clustering gays" around kids? Wha? There are gay splinter cells circling our little boys, just awaiting the GaySignal (undoubtedly a pink searchlight with a triangle painted on it) to pounce on the kiddies with hair product and fantastic shoes, thus ruining their parade-watching experience? I've said it before, and I'll say it again: <em>I HATE Bill O'Reilly.</em> I cannot listen to Bill O’Dumbass, I’m sorry. I’m glad there was a partial transcript…I only get furious when I read him…when I watch him I am liable to start screaming.

I also don’t read the Potter books, but I’m pretty sure I won’t catch TEH GHEY from any books.

“Clustering gays” around kids? Wha? There are gay splinter cells circling our little boys, just awaiting the GaySignal (undoubtedly a pink searchlight with a triangle painted on it) to pounce on the kiddies with hair product and fantastic shoes, thus ruining their parade-watching experience?

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: I HATE Bill O’Reilly.

]]> By: Craig R. http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/10/24/if-bill-oreilly-didnt-exist-wed-have-to-make-him-up/#comment-133666 Craig R. Thu, 25 Oct 2007 05:46:17 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/10/24/if-bill-oreilly-didnt-exist-wed-have-to-make-him-up/#comment-133666 <blockquote>O’REILLY: Of any of them. Although those wizards, I’m very very suspicious about what they’re doing in their spare time.</blockquote> Umm, Bill -- these are *fictional characters.* They don't *have* "spare time." Marroon...

O’REILLY: Of any of them. Although those wizards, I’m very very suspicious about what they’re doing in their spare time.

Umm, Bill — these are *fictional characters.*

They don’t *have* “spare time.”

Marroon…

]]> By: Cola Johnson http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/10/24/if-bill-oreilly-didnt-exist-wed-have-to-make-him-up/#comment-133654 Cola Johnson Thu, 25 Oct 2007 04:21:23 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/10/24/if-bill-oreilly-didnt-exist-wed-have-to-make-him-up/#comment-133654 Sexists like O'Reilly should know by now. Women can't be "provocateurs." They're "provocateuses." And I thought I had trouble with gender in French. Sexists like O’Reilly should know by now. Women can’t be “provocateurs.”

They’re “provocateuses.”

And I thought I had trouble with gender in French.

]]> By: meggygurl http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/10/24/if-bill-oreilly-didnt-exist-wed-have-to-make-him-up/#comment-133648 meggygurl Thu, 25 Oct 2007 03:47:18 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/10/24/if-bill-oreilly-didnt-exist-wed-have-to-make-him-up/#comment-133648 <em>O’REILLY: Of any of them. Although those wizards, I’m very very suspicious about what they’re doing in their spare time.</em> Hehehe. Ya know what they are doing in their spare time? It's called fanfiction. :D O’REILLY: Of any of them. Although those wizards, I’m very very suspicious about what they’re doing in their spare time.

Hehehe. Ya know what they are doing in their spare time?

It’s called fanfiction. :D

]]> By: CBrachyrhynchos http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/10/24/if-bill-oreilly-didnt-exist-wed-have-to-make-him-up/#comment-133636 CBrachyrhynchos Thu, 25 Oct 2007 01:39:58 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/10/24/if-bill-oreilly-didnt-exist-wed-have-to-make-him-up/#comment-133636 zuzu: Well, I'm not really talking about a "sex life." It's just that it seems that a central theme of the novels is Potter and Co. are paying for the relationship problems of the previous generation. As an example, she clearly establishes the mutual relationship of Hagrid's parents, in order to set up Hagrid's romantic downfall. The sexuality of young Snape becomes a critical clue to adult Snape's character. So here we have a relationship that is detailed in the novel that, at least in Rowling's view involved considerable same-sex attraction, but is portrayed to minimize that attraction. Of course, it can be argued reasonably from the logic of the novels that Dumbledore as a very secretive individual was so circumspect and careful that even when that relationship is investigated after his death, no clue existed as to his feelings. But that argument misses the fact that Rowling designed the logic of the novels. And just as we know about Turing and G.H. Hardy, it doesn't seem outrageous that a critical obituary might discuss this. zuzu: Well, I’m not really talking about a “sex life.” It’s just that it seems that a central theme of the novels is Potter and Co. are paying for the relationship problems of the previous generation. As an example, she clearly establishes the mutual relationship of Hagrid’s parents, in order to set up Hagrid’s romantic downfall. The sexuality of young Snape becomes a critical clue to adult Snape’s character. So here we have a relationship that is detailed in the novel that, at least in Rowling’s view involved considerable same-sex attraction, but is portrayed to minimize that attraction.

Of course, it can be argued reasonably from the logic of the novels that Dumbledore as a very secretive individual was so circumspect and careful that even when that relationship is investigated after his death, no clue existed as to his feelings. But that argument misses the fact that Rowling designed the logic of the novels. And just as we know about Turing and G.H. Hardy, it doesn’t seem outrageous that a critical obituary might discuss this.

]]> By: zuzu http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/10/24/if-bill-oreilly-didnt-exist-wed-have-to-make-him-up/#comment-133633 zuzu Thu, 25 Oct 2007 00:54:11 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/10/24/if-bill-oreilly-didnt-exist-wed-have-to-make-him-up/#comment-133633 True, but it's not like any of the other single adult characters had sex lives that we knew about. True, but it’s not like any of the other single adult characters had sex lives that we knew about.

]]> By: CBrachyrhynchos http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/10/24/if-bill-oreilly-didnt-exist-wed-have-to-make-him-up/#comment-133632 CBrachyrhynchos Thu, 25 Oct 2007 00:46:18 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/10/24/if-bill-oreilly-didnt-exist-wed-have-to-make-him-up/#comment-133632 I have the very unpopular opinion that all she did was admit to a long-standing form of literary bias. Portraying queer characters and relationships by muting them under literary ambiguity and subtext is a grand old tradition of English literature. I'm willing to give Rowling a pat on the back for pissing of O'Reilly, but not for closeting a character in the text, (no matter how much one might choose to rationalize it as an artistic choice.) I have the very unpopular opinion that all she did was admit to a long-standing form of literary bias. Portraying queer characters and relationships by muting them under literary ambiguity and subtext is a grand old tradition of English literature. I’m willing to give Rowling a pat on the back for pissing of O’Reilly, but not for closeting a character in the text, (no matter how much one might choose to rationalize it as an artistic choice.)

]]> By: preying mantis http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/10/24/if-bill-oreilly-didnt-exist-wed-have-to-make-him-up/#comment-133568 preying mantis Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:12:59 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/10/24/if-bill-oreilly-didnt-exist-wed-have-to-make-him-up/#comment-133568 "The cynic in me does not see this announcement as progressive so much as capitalist, which suits me fine." She's apparently been telling the folks making the movies that he was gay for a while. Making an official announcement doesn't seem like such a huge honking deal if she's been scribbling it on screenplay drafts for years. Any excuse to freak out about any hint of gay-positivity in popular media, though. “The cynic in me does not see this announcement as progressive so much as capitalist, which suits me fine.”

She’s apparently been telling the folks making the movies that he was gay for a while. Making an official announcement doesn’t seem like such a huge honking deal if she’s been scribbling it on screenplay drafts for years. Any excuse to freak out about any hint of gay-positivity in popular media, though.

]]> By: K.T. Slager http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/10/24/if-bill-oreilly-didnt-exist-wed-have-to-make-him-up/#comment-133567 K.T. Slager Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:11:28 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/10/24/if-bill-oreilly-didnt-exist-wed-have-to-make-him-up/#comment-133567 Never mind again, I looked it up. Thank you, Wikipedia. Never mind again, I looked it up. Thank you, Wikipedia.

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