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	<description>In defense of the sanctimonious women&#039;s studies set.</description>
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		<title>By: Carole Hanisch: The Personal is Political &#171; Nerves Strengthened with Tea</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/10/24/intersecting-identities-and-feminist-identification/#comment-277846</link>
		<dc:creator>Carole Hanisch: The Personal is Political &#171; Nerves Strengthened with Tea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 13:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ones, why should “we” listen to what they have to say? Here&#8217;s an interesting post about why women can feel alienated from [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ones, why should “we” listen to what they have to say? Here&#8217;s an interesting post about why women can feel alienated from [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MyFriendMsPoet</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/10/24/intersecting-identities-and-feminist-identification/#comment-193607</link>
		<dc:creator>MyFriendMsPoet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 03:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe in the idea of the movement. I think feminism is not really about women being superior of men rather the movement is on gender sensitivity. So, going back to the question if I am a feminist?&gt;&gt;My answer would be yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe in the idea of the movement. I think feminism is not really about women being superior of men rather the movement is on gender sensitivity. So, going back to the question if I am a feminist?&gt;&gt;My answer would be yes.</p>
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		<title>By: The Personal is Political &#171; Mind the Gap</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/10/24/intersecting-identities-and-feminist-identification/#comment-147914</link>
		<dc:creator>The Personal is Political &#171; Mind the Gap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ones, why should “we” listen to what they have to say? Here&#8217;s an interesting post about why women can feel alienated from [...]</description>
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		<title>By: bambi</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/10/24/intersecting-identities-and-feminist-identification/#comment-139258</link>
		<dc:creator>bambi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, the denial!  It&#039;s one thing to think Christianity is prone to fanaticism as all forms of monotheism is but to think that Islam is just another benign monoheism is refusing to see reality.  Just fresh from the oven:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/theblasphemousteddybear;_ylt=AqqV8rImyBTZPMdaTzSiNQPq188F

This is but one of the thousands such incidents reported day in day out in the news.  Muslims might be benign but Islam never was!  Never is.  And never will be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, the denial!  It&#8217;s one thing to think Christianity is prone to fanaticism as all forms of monotheism is but to think that Islam is just another benign monoheism is refusing to see reality.  Just fresh from the oven:<br />
<a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/theblasphemousteddybear;_ylt=AqqV8rImyBTZPMdaTzSiNQPq188F" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/theblasphemousteddybear;_ylt=AqqV8rImyBTZPMdaTzSiNQPq188F</a></p>
<p>This is but one of the thousands such incidents reported day in day out in the news.  Muslims might be benign but Islam never was!  Never is.  And never will be.</p>
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		<title>By: siti aminah</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/10/24/intersecting-identities-and-feminist-identification/#comment-135342</link>
		<dc:creator>siti aminah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this is what we are up againts in our country.  The so called average Muslims who are opposed to freedom of thought and religion are aplenty in our society.

http://www.menj.org/religion-philosophy/no-more-joy-for-murtads/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this is what we are up againts in our country.  The so called average Muslims who are opposed to freedom of thought and religion are aplenty in our society.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.menj.org/religion-philosophy/no-more-joy-for-murtads/" rel="nofollow">http://www.menj.org/religion-philosophy/no-more-joy-for-murtads/</a></p>
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		<title>By: siti aminah</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/10/24/intersecting-identities-and-feminist-identification/#comment-135341</link>
		<dc:creator>siti aminah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And you think our lives as apostates here are  easy!  We are not even allowed to convert out.  That&#039;s not legally possible.

http://religion.info/english/articles/article_110.shtml

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/008191.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And you think our lives as apostates here are  easy!  We are not even allowed to convert out.  That&#8217;s not legally possible.</p>
<p><a href="http://religion.info/english/articles/article_110.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://religion.info/english/articles/article_110.shtml</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/008191.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/008191.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: siti aminah</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/10/24/intersecting-identities-and-feminist-identification/#comment-135339</link>
		<dc:creator>siti aminah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This one might makes you understand better what we are facing in Malaysia and all countries that proclaim Islam as the state religion:

http://www.faithfreedom.org/Testimonials/Ex-Malaysian_Moslem.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This one might makes you understand better what we are facing in Malaysia and all countries that proclaim Islam as the state religion:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.faithfreedom.org/Testimonials/Ex-Malaysian_Moslem.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.faithfreedom.org/Testimonials/Ex-Malaysian_Moslem.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: siti aminah</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/10/24/intersecting-identities-and-feminist-identification/#comment-135127</link>
		<dc:creator>siti aminah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what Vanessa said:

And this is my point. Only fundamentalists practice something to the letter. It is (empirically, as there are practitioners of Islam that are not fundamentalists) not essential to be a fundamentalist to be a Muslim.

So. If most Muslims practice Islam in a non-authoritarian manner, then why is authoritarianism inherent in the practice of Islam, again?

Actually, don’t bother to answer. I have better things to do than waste my time on the internet with crazy-talkers. It just saddens me that neo-con (because, yes, that’s just who you sound like) positions such as this have informed US foreign policy to such a degree.

to littleflower&#039;s assertion:

Most Muslims don’t follow the religion to the letter, they are pragmatic. There are degrees of commitment and religiosity among them, just as in any religion.

Then La Lubu censured littleflower&#039;s response to Vanessa who call those who don&#039;t agree with her CRAZY TALKERS/NEO-CONS (believe me I&#039;m FAR from a conservative, that&#039;s why I speak out) and the next thing we know she calls her a bigot.  From the discourse above, it&#039;s obvious littleflower KNOWS for a fact that NOT ALL Muslims are fundamentalists to be fought against!  I am sick and tired of apologists twisting our words and selectively edit/read our arguments to make us look bad.  No, that actually makes me angry.  It&#039;s expected when I discuss this with Muslims as it always happens, but with you here who are supposedly informed liberals?  And feminists at that?  I think you have a lot to answer for to our women whose sufferings you are so readily trivialised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what Vanessa said:</p>
<p>And this is my point. Only fundamentalists practice something to the letter. It is (empirically, as there are practitioners of Islam that are not fundamentalists) not essential to be a fundamentalist to be a Muslim.</p>
<p>So. If most Muslims practice Islam in a non-authoritarian manner, then why is authoritarianism inherent in the practice of Islam, again?</p>
<p>Actually, don’t bother to answer. I have better things to do than waste my time on the internet with crazy-talkers. It just saddens me that neo-con (because, yes, that’s just who you sound like) positions such as this have informed US foreign policy to such a degree.</p>
<p>to littleflower&#8217;s assertion:</p>
<p>Most Muslims don’t follow the religion to the letter, they are pragmatic. There are degrees of commitment and religiosity among them, just as in any religion.</p>
<p>Then La Lubu censured littleflower&#8217;s response to Vanessa who call those who don&#8217;t agree with her CRAZY TALKERS/NEO-CONS (believe me I&#8217;m FAR from a conservative, that&#8217;s why I speak out) and the next thing we know she calls her a bigot.  From the discourse above, it&#8217;s obvious littleflower KNOWS for a fact that NOT ALL Muslims are fundamentalists to be fought against!  I am sick and tired of apologists twisting our words and selectively edit/read our arguments to make us look bad.  No, that actually makes me angry.  It&#8217;s expected when I discuss this with Muslims as it always happens, but with you here who are supposedly informed liberals?  And feminists at that?  I think you have a lot to answer for to our women whose sufferings you are so readily trivialised.</p>
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		<title>By: littleflower</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/10/24/intersecting-identities-and-feminist-identification/#comment-134990</link>
		<dc:creator>littleflower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah Siti, she won&#039;t let me have my last words either as she said!  I told her she should talk to Feminists who left Islam like Homa Darabi, parvin Darabi, Taslima Nasrin, Wafa Sultan, Ayaan Hirsi Ali and tell them in their face how bigoted they are for fighting against the bigoted mullahs/society that oppressed them.  What a joke.  I said she and the fascists share the same values of silencing dissenting opinions. I told her that Islam is a bad idea for exactly that reason because there is no room for dissenting opinions.  I told her that Europe began to wake up after the PC camp has been telling Islam critics bigots and racists for a long time and cost them a lot of societal problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah Siti, she won&#8217;t let me have my last words either as she said!  I told her she should talk to Feminists who left Islam like Homa Darabi, parvin Darabi, Taslima Nasrin, Wafa Sultan, Ayaan Hirsi Ali and tell them in their face how bigoted they are for fighting against the bigoted mullahs/society that oppressed them.  What a joke.  I said she and the fascists share the same values of silencing dissenting opinions. I told her that Islam is a bad idea for exactly that reason because there is no room for dissenting opinions.  I told her that Europe began to wake up after the PC camp has been telling Islam critics bigots and racists for a long time and cost them a lot of societal problems.</p>
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		<title>By: siti aminah</title>
		<link>http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/10/24/intersecting-identities-and-feminist-identification/#comment-134986</link>
		<dc:creator>siti aminah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh La Lubu, why did you delete my comment?  Afraid that because it rings so true, huh? That having come from an oppressive society I won&#039;t let you try to silence us by calling us bigots for exposing the bigots in our religion? That I don&#039;t take for granted freedom of speech/thought the way you do because it&#039;s freely given to you at birth?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh La Lubu, why did you delete my comment?  Afraid that because it rings so true, huh? That having come from an oppressive society I won&#8217;t let you try to silence us by calling us bigots for exposing the bigots in our religion? That I don&#8217;t take for granted freedom of speech/thought the way you do because it&#8217;s freely given to you at birth?</p>
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