Comments on: If this is true, then I’m possibly the smartest person in the world http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/11/13/if-this-is-true-then-im-possibly-the-smartest-person-in-the-world/ In defense of the sanctimonious women's studies set. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:11:18 +0000 hourly 1 By: Amy Alkon http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/11/13/if-this-is-true-then-im-possibly-the-smartest-person-in-the-world/#comment-163908 Amy Alkon Sat, 12 Apr 2008 05:21:57 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/11/13/if-this-is-true-then-im-possibly-the-smartest-person-in-the-world/#comment-163908 Has Tovee read the study? Have any of you? I have -- I have the journal right here, and I heard Gaulin present the work at the 2007 Human Behavior And Evolutionion Society Conference at William and Mary -- and Gaulin and Lassek were quite meticulous, and their work is well-supported. You can read it here -- I mean, unless you'd rather just pontificate on stuff you know nothing about: http://tinyurl.com/659v94 Furthermore, this comment from the BBC piece -- "The bigger the difference between a woman's waist and hips the better" -- is sloppy and untrue. And like it or not, men, across cultures, prefer women with hourglass figures who are not obese or terribly skinny. Dev Singh from UT did the original work on this, and others are challenging the fact that he used drawings, and 2D to boot -- as is the requirement of science, as a search for truth. Still, WHR (Waist-to-hip ratio), as a measure of attractiveness in women holds up. I'm too tired to post more about this now, and I suspect my comment will be deleted anyway. This comments section is like Lord of the Flies for angry women. Has Tovee read the study? Have any of you? I have — I have the journal right here, and I heard Gaulin present the work at the 2007 Human Behavior And Evolutionion Society Conference at William and Mary — and Gaulin and Lassek were quite meticulous, and their work is well-supported.

You can read it here — I mean, unless you’d rather just pontificate on stuff you know nothing about:

http://tinyurl.com/659v94

Furthermore, this comment from the BBC piece — “The bigger the difference between a woman’s waist and hips the better” — is sloppy and untrue.

And like it or not, men, across cultures, prefer women with hourglass figures who are not obese or terribly skinny. Dev Singh from UT did the original work on this, and others are challenging the fact that he used drawings, and 2D to boot — as is the requirement of science, as a search for truth. Still, WHR (Waist-to-hip ratio), as a measure of attractiveness in women holds up.

I’m too tired to post more about this now, and I suspect my comment will be deleted anyway.

This comments section is like Lord of the Flies for angry women.

]]> By: Orodemniades http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/11/13/if-this-is-true-then-im-possibly-the-smartest-person-in-the-world/#comment-136946 Orodemniades Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:37:58 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/11/13/if-this-is-true-then-im-possibly-the-smartest-person-in-the-world/#comment-136946 As a straight woman, I've known for years that there are pretty much only two women I would ever sleep with, kd lang and the other one, whom I can't recall. Then I moved to Britain and eventually saw Nigella Lawson. Internets, that woman is seriously hot. And that concludes my random, pretty much has nothing to do with the post post of the day. Oh darn, now I've reread the post and have something to contribute, namely, wouldn't a higher ratio of waist hip mean better fat loads regardless of weight and hence, better nutrition in lean times for babies in utero? As a straight woman, I’ve known for years that there are pretty much only two women I would ever sleep with, kd lang and the other one, whom I can’t recall. Then I moved to Britain and eventually saw Nigella Lawson. Internets, that woman is seriously hot.

And that concludes my random, pretty much has nothing to do with the post post of the day.

Oh darn, now I’ve reread the post and have something to contribute, namely, wouldn’t a higher ratio of waist hip mean better fat loads regardless of weight and hence, better nutrition in lean times for babies in utero?

]]> By: Tara http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/11/13/if-this-is-true-then-im-possibly-the-smartest-person-in-the-world/#comment-136930 Tara Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:17:35 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/11/13/if-this-is-true-then-im-possibly-the-smartest-person-in-the-world/#comment-136930 Jane - please reread my comment without a chip on your shoulder: <blockquote>I bet it's because *not* dieting is good for your brain, and that women of <strong>all body types</strong> are smarter and have more freedom to use their brains if they enjoyed good nutrition throughout their youth, childhood, and adulthood, <strong>regardless</strong> of exactly how that good nutrition <strong>looks</strong> on their bodies...</blockquote> Jane – please reread my comment without a chip on your shoulder:

I bet it’s because *not* dieting is good for your brain, and that women of all body types are smarter and have more freedom to use their brains if they enjoyed good nutrition throughout their youth, childhood, and adulthood, regardless of exactly how that good nutrition looks on their bodies…

]]> By: Anatolia http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/11/13/if-this-is-true-then-im-possibly-the-smartest-person-in-the-world/#comment-136924 Anatolia Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:20:56 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/11/13/if-this-is-true-then-im-possibly-the-smartest-person-in-the-world/#comment-136924 Heh. Piqued my curiousity. http://discovermagazine.com/2006/may/bats/ What does it all mean? Heh. Piqued my curiousity.

http://discovermagazine.com/2006/may/bats/

What does it all mean?

]]> By: Anatolia http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/11/13/if-this-is-true-then-im-possibly-the-smartest-person-in-the-world/#comment-136921 Anatolia Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:51:01 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/11/13/if-this-is-true-then-im-possibly-the-smartest-person-in-the-world/#comment-136921 Last time I checked, women were of the same species as men. If higher intelligence is relayed through larger waist-to-hip ratios as some evolutionary trait, then, yeah. Got it. Last time I checked, women were of the same species as men. If higher intelligence is relayed through larger waist-to-hip ratios as some evolutionary trait, then, yeah. Got it.

]]> By: Caja http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/11/13/if-this-is-true-then-im-possibly-the-smartest-person-in-the-world/#comment-136917 Caja Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:28:27 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/11/13/if-this-is-true-then-im-possibly-the-smartest-person-in-the-world/#comment-136917 It's because women actually think with our pelvic organs, see, and if the waist-hip ratio is wrong, those organs get all squeezed and you can't think as good. See? There I go, with my (scrawny) narrow hips! Being ungrammary. It’s because women actually think with our pelvic organs, see, and if the waist-hip ratio is wrong, those organs get all squeezed and you can’t think as good. See? There I go, with my (scrawny) narrow hips! Being ungrammary.

]]> By: Roxie http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/11/13/if-this-is-true-then-im-possibly-the-smartest-person-in-the-world/#comment-136910 Roxie Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:54:26 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/11/13/if-this-is-true-then-im-possibly-the-smartest-person-in-the-world/#comment-136910 Well, it's like Shakira says...the hips don't lie! (I can't believe no one got there yet)... Well, it’s like Shakira says…the hips don’t lie!

(I can’t believe no one got there yet)…

]]> By: curiousgyrl http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/11/13/if-this-is-true-then-im-possibly-the-smartest-person-in-the-world/#comment-136903 curiousgyrl Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:21:58 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/11/13/if-this-is-true-then-im-possibly-the-smartest-person-in-the-world/#comment-136903 <blockquote> wouldn’t it mean that black women are smarter </blockquote> No, since black women's waist to him ratios aren't different than anyone else's.

wouldn’t it mean that black women are smarter

No, since black women’s waist to him ratios aren’t different than anyone else’s.

]]> By: exholt http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/11/13/if-this-is-true-then-im-possibly-the-smartest-person-in-the-world/#comment-136902 exholt Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:20:08 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/11/13/if-this-is-true-then-im-possibly-the-smartest-person-in-the-world/#comment-136902 oops, Meant to say "I think the legacies at Harvard are way ahead of Natalie Portman on that score if what a few former undergrad Ivy admissions staff friends said about them is true." oops,

Meant to say “I think the legacies at Harvard are way ahead of Natalie Portman on that score if what a few former undergrad Ivy admissions staff friends said about them is true.”

]]> By: exholt http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/11/13/if-this-is-true-then-im-possibly-the-smartest-person-in-the-world/#comment-136901 exholt Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:16:47 +0000 http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2007/11/13/if-this-is-true-then-im-possibly-the-smartest-person-in-the-world/#comment-136901 This is one reason why I don't take science reporting seriously when it is in the MSM. I'd much rather read the actual studies and chat with those who work in the field to minimize potential oversimplification and outright distortions. <blockquote>Clearly, Natalie Portman cheated her way into Harvard. And through it, if this music video is to be believed.</blockquote> I think the legacies at Harvard have Natalie Portman are way ahead of her on that score if what a few friends who worked in Ivy undergrad admissions said about them is true. This is one reason why I don’t take science reporting seriously when it is in the MSM. I’d much rather read the actual studies and chat with those who work in the field to minimize potential oversimplification and outright distortions.

Clearly, Natalie Portman cheated her way into Harvard.
And through it, if this music video is to be believed.

I think the legacies at Harvard have Natalie Portman are way ahead of her on that score if what a few friends who worked in Ivy undergrad admissions said about them is true.

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